Opioids Is OP 80 Subligualy a good idea?

[eatface4life]

I have obtained some OP 80's I intend on using for my chronic knee pain. To my knowledge are the new time released Oxycontin that were created to gel up if snorted or iv'ed to prevent abuse (which is not something I intend to do). I was just wondering how long would it take for them to kick in sublingualy if I need them. Would this be faster than oral use? Sorry if there might be other threads around on this but I've done a little searching on here and google and couldnt find any clear information on this. Any input would be appreciated.

 

[jeng1128]

No...even if u sniff it once it's. Inn ur stomach it gels back up. Not worth it,IMO.

 

[BlueHues]

Nah man, that time release is too effective, just eat 'em with some coca-cola and a plate of French fries...

 

[The Doc.]

Your gonna have a dense ass pill under the tounge for few days I'm guessing those arnt meant for sublingual use.

 

[eatface4life]

Thanks and you guys were right, no sublingual (Not at all effective). No recreational value either but decent for there intended use.

 

[Lorne???]

For future reference, sublingual administration is NOT faster than oral; it actually takes significantly longer for drugs to take effect sublingually. The one advantage is that they will usually last longer, though. Buprenorphine, and to a lesser extent, alprazolam and possibly oxycodone are examples of this.

In the case of oxycodone, tmax for sublingual would be 2-3h, vs roughly 1.5h oral. Not to mention the BA will probably be worse. Really you just shouldn't ever sub oxy, even if you had IR. I just wish this info was available on BL somewhere, their are periodic questions about sublingual use, ya know. And the myth of it being faster/ more effective is widespread...

 

[ladianios]

The only way to truly beat the time release is to soak it overnight in a bit of lemon juice or something similar and take it as a shot the next day...it will be like shooting a raw egg consistancy wise but it is effective nonetheless.....common info tho.

 

[VisceralChems]

No recreational value either but decent for there intended use.

Not exactly true, but IMO best to not use for recreational purposes for several reasons. Assuming crushing and your choice of liquid doesn't do the trick, they are still releasing at X per min. For arguments sake, lets say when crushed they release 30mg in the first 10 - 15 min based on increased surface area, and the rest more slowly over time. Therefore, if you require 60mg to achieve desired effect, then wouldn't two crushed likely provide that? (Although I release this changes the formula somewhat since the crushed material combines in stomach to a degree and thus provides less surface area in the stomach...but regardless, keep in mind these are NOT actual absorption facts either). Furthermore, next does, you likely have a baseline plasma level and require less for desired effect.

That said, from experience, this is a great way to jump your tolerance up...fast...which is bad! Since likely you will be taking more to get the desired effect, and though not getting the benefit from the full increased dose, it is still being metabolized at some point (I would love to know how much is actually absorbed when swallowed whole vs crushed). And yes, still not quite the same as the IR. Best to use for taper schedules IMO ... assuming you are stronger than I and follow through with it.

 

[brutus]

I'm going to close this since the OP realized that his/her idea doesn't work.