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Is my friend placebo-ing?

MLL99

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So me and my mates quite like a bit of MDMA every now and then. We go to festivals quite often over the summer and molly is usually the drug of choice, but I seem to find it a lot less enjoyable than one of my friends in particular. Don't get me wrong, I love it, but only for about 6 hours on the 1st night. After that, it is nowhere near as intense and enjoyable.

We usually just take 0.25g each in one go to start with and that gets me going nicely. I get euphoria, flickering visual effects and feel all round superb. This peak lasts 2-3 hours and it starts to fade a little but I still feel very good for a total of around 6 hours from feeling the first effect before I just get tired and need to sleep. Often, as the high starts to become less intense, we'll rub a bit into our gums. My friend seems to think this tops up his high nicely whereas I've never felt that it's improved my high at all. I've even tried taking a third bomb to take my dose up to 0.375g but it's usually just given me a headache.

If we try rolling the 2nd night, I'll take 0.25g again but feel a lot less euphoric and not get any visual effects. I feel nice but nowhere near on the same level. Taking any more doesn't seem to help. My friend usually seems to really enjoy it again on the 2nd night, although is maybe not quite as fucked as the 1st night. He'll usually top up again after a few hours and seems to think it helps.

I've tried a 3rd night but it seems pointless as it's worse than the 2nd night, but again this friend seems to still love it on a 3rd night.

From what I've read, 0.25g is a fairly big dose so it seems like the initial 0.25g on the first night should just wipe us all out of serotonin. I'm struggling to see how topping up and going for consecutive nights is possible when I really see the effects of taking more dropping off pretty obviously even after the first hit on the first night.

I can't help but think my friends (who haven't read much on how MDMA works) are feeling a placebo effect, since I don't think they realise that it works by causing a release of serotonin which will run out at some point.

What are other people's opinions on this? Am I just depleting my serotonin ultra fast? Do they have a different response where their brain doesn't release all the serotonin and they get a sort of steady drip from re-dosing? Do you think they're just feeling a placebo effect?

I'm slowly toning it down since I'm aware that fucking with your serotonin too much is asking for trouble. In future, I doubt I'll bother topping up or taking it a 2nd night at all as it doesn't seem to be worth the risk of "losing the magic" or causing problems.

What are your opinions? Is it me that's unusual here or my friends?
 
Flush your brain once a month max! Once every 3 months is better. Your not gonna get anything more than you've already got from the stuff by abusing it and redosing...

Play safe and implement your judgement. PLUR
 
MDMA also works on dopamine and norepinephrine, not just serotonin. Your friends may just be enjoying those aspects of the drug...

Some people are easy to please... Some of us are perfectionists, always questing for the perfect roll. Frankly, I'm jealous. :)
 
It is possible if they are not regular users they are getting a heavy afterglow. I know if I take massive breaks, I'm still on E basically for the next day or so. It's still working...just like u smoke dope at night, but next day you still feel a bit stoned.
 
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