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Is methadone treatment for me?

TheJosh

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What's up. I'm 20 years old and started abusing painkillers in high school at 17. I began with Vic's, then percs, morphine, OP, etc all through out 11-12th grade. I would say my tolerance mid way through was 90mg of morphine. 4,000mg's Percocet. Throughout that time I was clean for maybe a month until I started up again. Also, I partied a lot and drank alcohol, did cocaine for a few months and quit that, and a small habit of Xanax recreationally. The whole time I always did opiates besides that 1 month sober. Started smoking weed for a year until I quit and got caught up with heroin. I had sniffed it for roughly 8-9 months before nearly turning 20. Here I am now.. Booting it up almost everyday for the last 7 months. I went into a rehab which I left after a week and relapsed. In 5 days, I go to a methadone clinic for help. I'm sick and tired and lying, stealing, selling my shit to get the next fix. I am trying to turn my life around and when I don't have H, the withdrawals are horrible. The question is.. Is a methadone clinic a good choice for a person like me after all the information I gave? My mind says yes, but my heart says 50/50. Maybe bc I'm uneducated? I know about suboxne and all that. I'd prefer methadone if anything. Thoughts on this please guys? Any and all advice/opinion would be highly appreciated.. Help homies????
 
I'm one who believes in using methadone for short term, taper, get off and live life sober. However, many people start on dones, increase to high doses, stay on it for years....

Suboxone is another drug you can try...it can be rx by a doctor, you don't have to go to clinic daily, etc. There are many success stories on suboxone as well.

You're taking the steps to stop using, congrats. Theres some good threads on methadone here, be sure to read them.

Don't get discouraged if you don't change immediately. It takes time to heal mentally/physically from long term drug abuse. Maybe find your triggers, talk to someone as to why you use.

Most people who are undiagnosed ADHD or Bipolar II spend years self medicating with drugs without proper diagnosis. You should talk to someone to see if you fall in this catagory.

Hugs and good luck!
 
Funny thing is my mom has pretty bad bipolar. I've been to the doctor before but nothing ever came up being adhd or bipolar. Is it something I should ask to be diagnosed for? Or see someone different? Ugh I don't know why I even started to begin with! My whole childhood I was a happy as fuck kid. Now I feel so down everyday. Wtffffff is wrong with me:(
 
Josh, we all have reasons for starting, used, abused, made mistakes...don't beat yourself up to bad!

Bipolar II is more common in drug abusers, you can google info on it.

Testosterone makes you a mess during teen years. Did you know males are more prone to become diabetic during their teen years due to testosterone surges? It's true.
Your hormones can also play heavily on your moods.

Let us know how the clinic goes. You have to be dedicated to the daily dosing grind. For some, suboxone is a better route because it's home dosing. However, the methadone clinic may give you the therapy you need.

Hugs
 
There are basically two theories when it comes to maintenance drugs

the first one is to do a rapid taper and come off of them with little difficulty. This is great because you can avoid the dreaded withdrawal and get it over with quickly and cheaply. This might be good for you as you do not have a history of abuse ranging decades.

The other one is "how ever long you feel is needed" this is the option I always choose. Part of getting off dope is building a shield against using. A long term plan sets you up to be a very strong individual who will have the tools to resist relapse. Even something as simple as "I havent used dope in 8 months, i wont start from day zero again" is a powerful motivating source dont let anyone tell you otherwise. Counting days gives me a lot more strength then simply being clean. Also recovery programs do things like groups etc that also help you pass the time in recovery.

What happened to me on subs and is starting to happen on methadone eventually i view the clinic as some place i dont need to go and then rapid taper and get off all the time thinking "f this place f dope addicts they think i will be on this forever!" and by that time I no longer associate the sickness with dope but rather "proving I am better then everyone"

Just something to consider
 
suboxone is much better than methadone; or at least I THINK SO!

no worries of the daily clinic; no urge to still use or get high. just a nice, NORMAL feeling all throughout the day. I shot heroin for years and years and tried methadone multiple times and same w/ bupe. bupe always worked better for me and still does to this day; sometimes I do slip up but when I used methadone I would still shoot dope daily but w/ suboxone I MAY use once a month; I have no urge, no NOTHING.. ITS GREAT! im on 16MG/day, which is a lot, but I was a big junkie.
 
What's up. I'm 20 years old and started abusing painkillers in high school at 17. I began with Vic's, then percs, morphine, OP, etc all through out 11-12th grade. I would say my tolerance mid way through was 90mg of morphine. 4,000mg's Percocet. Throughout that time I was clean for maybe a month until I started up again. Also, I partied a lot and drank alcohol, did cocaine for a few months and quit that, and a small habit of Xanax recreationally. The whole time I always did opiates besides that 1 month sober. Started smoking weed for a year until I quit and got caught up with heroin. I had sniffed it for roughly 8-9 months before nearly turning 20. Here I am now.. Booting it up almost everyday for the last 7 months. I went into a rehab which I left after a week and relapsed. In 5 days, I go to a methadone clinic for help. I'm sick and tired and lying, stealing, selling my shit to get the next fix. I am trying to turn my life around and when I don't have H, the withdrawals are horrible. The question is.. Is a methadone clinic a good choice for a person like me after all the information I gave? My mind says yes, but my heart says 50/50. Maybe bc I'm uneducated? I know about suboxne and all that. I'd prefer methadone if anything. Thoughts on this please guys? Any and all advice/opinion would be highly appreciated.. Help homies����??

Your situation sound familiar to almost every drug addict, and I assure you, methadone is a trap, a fancy FDA approved trap put in place to keep the addicts DOWN.

1. Methadone is quite poisonus, compared to true Opiates, like morphine, and oxy (you should look into a CWE for fucksake 4,000 mg isn't OXYCODONE, it's the incredibly toxic TYLENOL, there may only be 40mg of Oxycodone in that).

2. Are you truly addicted? If you still experience a "nod" i'd say no. WHY? because that's a sign your tolerance is still manageable AND that you use 100% recreationally. Meanin YOU DON'T RELY ON OPIATES FOR MOTIVATION! That's important, once you use them for motivation, etc.. your fucked.

3. Are you prepared to spend all the money on Methadone (clinics cost lotsa $$) that you could be using for a fix??

4. Do you really NEED drugs to live at this point?? Sounds like you don't and you know it.

Perhaps your just scared of withdrawal??
Well let me tell you 7 days-1 month of withdrawal sure beats the shit out of that Cold iron ball & chain they call "methadone", and i'm not even on the stuff, I chose to stick with SHORT ACTING OPIATES recently, and i'm sure glad I did.

THis way I KNOW I can still quit if I really want to...there's really no quitting methadone for most people, though a small % do actually quit methadone, and live happily ever after to tell about it, the majority don't and probably end up wishing they just stuck with Heroin or would of Manned the fuck up and went through 7 days of withdrawal!

IMHO, your best shot is to just MAN UP AND PUT YOURSELF THROUGH WITHDRAWAL!
Taper down with hydros etc..., and stop thinking about being "HIGH" think about functioning. Because I gaurentee you 100% without the shadow of a doubt, If you keep using opiates to get "high" you're going to end up so fucked you'll just wish you were dead, when youre 70 years old and nothing, I do mean NOTHING will even touch, muchless relieve, your pain as you lay dying, suffering all the while.

But what do I know?
 
90mgs of oxy isn't too bad......you should taper down with oxy.

Methadone should be used when you're on heavier opiates like heroin & opana but the usage is like 1 gram.of heroin a day or 120mgs of opana a day.

I've used methadone in small quantities, like 2.5mgs to 5mgs a day to see what the high was about, etc.....I've always thought methadone was so different than other opiates from the chemicals that's in it.

For instance, methadone should never be mixed with the antibiotic Levaquin, bit opiates like vicodin, oxycodone, morphine & any other opiate can be mixed with Levaquin......really strange......antidepressants also should never be used with Levaquin, so it always bothered me what's in methadone that could put you in the hospital when mixed with the antibiotic Levaquin?
 
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