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RCs Is MDPV worth it?

OP I would advise against doing mdpv, The people that are saying they are not addicted to the substance are either in denial or one of the very few people that can do it responsibly for what ever reason. The majority of people that tried it had addiction issues with this so the probability that you will have a terrible experience with it is great. Ya sure the the high feels good but the comedown and fiendish aspect is not worth it. There stims out there with better Highs out there with a easier comedown and less fiendish. This novelty drug has run its course, Just let it die out.
 
OP I would advise against doing mdpv, The people that are saying they are not addicted to the substance are either in denial or one of the very few people that can do it responsibly for what ever reason. The majority of people that tried it had addiction issues with this so the probability that you will have a terrible experience with it is great. Ya sure the the high feels good but the comedown and fiendish aspect is not worth it. There stims out there with better Highs out there with a easier comedown and less fiendish. This novelty drug has run its course, Just let it die out.

Two things:

- The high doesn't feel good. The ability to stay awake and horny does though.

- I did less than 200 mg in my life and that was about a year ago so if you're trying to say I'm an addict you're a fool.
 
I've been a lurker on this forum for a while now but felt compelled to contribute to this thread as mdpv is a chemical I find exceptionally interesting and have a fair amount of experience with. As far as my substance use/abuse background goes I started out several years ago smoking weed and taking mdma/lsd occasionally at shows and continue to use those 3 (weed everyday, mdma and lsd more sparingly). As I got older I became a moderately frequent cocaine user and have tried just about any common street drug that can be smoked or snorted - I never have nor ever will inject anything partially in the name of harm reduction but mostly because needles terrify me.

I was first introduced to mdpv while trying synthetic drugs because of probation drug tests. This was 4 years ago - a bit before the bath salt/herbal incense boom. I started buying the mystery stimulant blends that I still refer to as bath salts though I've bought them under an absurd amount of guises - slug repellent, jewelry cleaner, spot remover, hookah cleaner, carpet deodorizer, and a few others I can't recall. After my local smoke shop got busted, I was able to figure out with a bit of research that my product of choice, according to the vendor, was a 65% mdpv / 35% lidocaine mix and after purchasing the pure chemical I am certain that mdpv was in fact the active chemical.

MDPV made it impossible for me to ever be satisfied with cocaine. It just never got me to the desired effects before the negative effects of having done too much started to take hold. I suppose you could say MDPV is my stimulant of choice so much so that cocaine, meth, and amphetamine just don't cut it anymore. The thing is, it's not necessarily because it's so awesome - it carries desire, at least for me, far beyond what it should if that makes any sense.

Since I live in the US, I discovered the legendary mephedrone right as it's availability started to decline. Mephedrone is the only other chemical besides MDPV that I literally fantasize about regularly. I haven't used 4mmc in a while because of the price/availability and I limit my mdpv purchases as much as I can but still go on small binges every month or so. However with 4mmc the effects are EXACTLY what I want in a drug and, unlike most people, I experience minimal comedown effects (it's the same way for me with MDMA which I know is atypical). MDPV's hold on me is a bit more of a mystery because it carries a pretty horrific comedown and the effects aren't nearly as desirable to me as mephedrone. So both substances for me, are wickedly addicting, but I understand why I want mephedrone (wonderful effects, minimal comedown) whereas I can't make as much sense of my mdpv cravings.

I'd advise anyone against trying MDPV for the first time as that was all it took for me to get hooked hard even as someone who was able to use cocaine and other addictive substances fairly responsibly. If you did end up trying it, which I know you've made the wise decision not to, I've found that forcing myself to eat (even if it's a couple protein shakes - anything to ingest some calories) and making sure to have benzos/weed ready for the comedown helps immensely. The appetite suppression and insomnia are brutal and I believe that's what causes most of the hallucinations - it's literally no fucking problem to go without sleep for 4 days and drink minimal water/eat almost nothing if you aren't paying attention and have too much of it lying around. As others have said, chances are you won't be able to stop before you run out.

It's one hell of a drug :)
 
I can get a gram for really cheap. Is it worth it to try though? Is the risk of addiction that great?

It's worth it while you're high, and then suddenly seems not worth it when you aren't high anymore. It has that value, akin to any other substance in my opinion. MDPV is specifically known for turning even the most unlikely people into fiends. This is due to its incredibly high reinforcing properties. The risk of an acute addiction is about as high as it gets with mdpv (no pun).

Ill just pick out some random popular drugs that i have much experience with to rate the compulsive reinforcement from highest to lowest :
MDPV>CB2 agonists>Crack>Meth>RC Stims>Cigarettes>Opiates>

Out of the 75+ substances i've experimented with, for me MDPV was hands down the most finicky and compulsive drug i've had.

I was big into mdpv a couple years ago, and (go figure) it ended in psychosis at the mental health institute.

I also think this is a very accurate depiction of mdpv and most rc stims.. It's like the worst case scenario amphetamine experience, pretty much from the moment you take enough to feel it! Anyone who's ever done real stimulants would tell you that....
 
^Doing MDPV is a fucking crazy experience....I thought I'd pretty much done it all and then I come across this shit....I'm glad I did it, in a way, because no trip report or online description can really do justice to what this particular drug is really like...

It can take someone in a perfectly normal, relaxed state of mind, and turn them into a paranoid crazy person who thinks every little noise they hear is someone "coming to get them" within a matter of an hour! Meth, crack, methylphenidate will definitely do that to people from time to time, but with MDPV?! That's just a normal thing that happens to the majority of people who use it! What's even more mind-boggling is the fact that you want to do more despite the fact that you obviously can't even handle the amount you've already done!

The high purity at which it was being sold could have something to do with it, but even small doses make even making a trip to the store to buy a loaf of bread seem like a dramatic, life-threatening experience!

It's potent, there's no disputing that! MDPV is not the kind of thing that leaves you wondering whether or not you "feel it"! And I think everyone who does it somehow thinks that by some miracle, the next time they do it all the weird shit "won't happen this time", but I know a handful of people who did it a lot more than me and nobody really seems to actually liker it....IDK...

If you like "going insane" in the true sense of phrase, not in the cutesy "Wow, I think I'm losing it guys, lol!" sense, give MDPV a fucking try!

Maybe there's some value in knowing what it truly feels like to be a raving lunatic, and this shit will provide the curious with that experience!
 
Somehow i never ended up going completely crazy, i just saw several friends lose it and have to be taken to the psych ward several times. So why the fuck do i ever think abiut it now? I seriously fiend for it still sometimes.
 
Well, I never went to the psych ward wither, but if things went wrong, I easily could have...There does seem to be a percentage of people who have a different experience with this drug. We have to be fair and acknowledge that, but the rate of people that experience some form of psychosis from MDPV or some of the other ones in the same ballpark has to be much higher than that of people casually using cocaine/amps, other more common stimulants...
 
I was exhibiting severe parkinsonisms alongside a strong paranoid schizophrenic reaction. This was after an extremely excessive week long binge straight through. Only things consumed were water, high doses of phenazepam, and high dose MDPV smoked half the time, IVd half the time on the hour without sleep. I remember feeling entirely confident that everyone else were the ones that were psychotic, because they kept telling me how paranoid I was and how irrational and crazy i was acting, which made me think that they were complete idiots for not being as paranoid as me, and i began to resent everybody around me. Apparently, it took 3 days after being admitted to the ward for people to understand anything i was saying and also to be able to pour a cup of water without spilling it absolutely everywhere. The weird thing was that i could recall having completely 100% normal interactions for the entire past week, and once people started telling me i was finally forming words it dawned on me that i had landed far out.
 
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