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Is majuanna bad

Binge Artist said:
IDK exactly why you'd wanna smoke marijuana anyway?

What it will do is this:
Make you feel cold and lost, and you'll struggle to breathe, have chest pains, and think you're fixing to have a heart attack (which you may well be). And if it don't affect you like that, there's something wrong with you as a person, most likely.


THAT, in and of itself, would trigger a pill relapse for me!
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That is complete nonsense, maybe thats how YOU feel when you smoke..

but thats not what smoking feels like at all.



To the OP: There is no way to tell.. For me smoking pot only helps me stay clean and sober, for others it triggers a need to use.
 
beta1 said:
That is complete nonsense, maybe thats how YOU feel when you smoke..

but thats not what smoking feels like at all.
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OK, something fucked up's going on here.

Marijuana is a drug. I just don't see how it could affect me soooo soooo sooooooo much differently than it does all y'all. For example, you give someone opiates, their pain goes away, they become sedated, and their mood is one of contentment. You give someone cocaine, they become uplifted, outgoing, and chatty. See what I mean? Drugs have certain "standard" effects.

Therefore, since MJ causes in me the following symptoms, I assume it MUST for all of y'all.

1. Physical coldness; not unlike the "chills" from opiate WD's, where not even heavy blankets or hot tubs can restore comfort.

2. Mental confusion; a very bizzare mental state, where one no longer perceives differences between, say, cats and people, or cars and tables, etc, etc.

3. Difficulty breathing; very similar to how one feels when one has exercised to the point of being out of breath.

4. Chest pains; here, there is a mixture of pains. The most notable one is a distinct feeling of "pressure" in the chest cavity. Similar to how laying a couple 80 lb bags of concrete across your chest feels. The second type of chest pain is more "intermittent", and feels like what I would imagine being stabbed feels like.

5. Feelings of impending heart attack or death; which I believe is the result of the mind making "rational" (of course, the mind is so fucked in this state, who knows, right?) conclusions concerning the last four symptoms.



And if weed affects some of y'all differently than that...the only conclusion I can make is that there must be something WRONG...seriously wrong...with you. My best hypothesis ATM would be lack of self awareness (ie, inability to recognize that their thinking has becomed fucked, that their breathing and cardiovascular system has gone to hell, etc etc).

Now, if someone is so self UN aware that he does not experience those symptoms with MJ use, then who knows how the buzz affects him. However, I can only imagine that someone with a modicum of self awareness would experience those symptoms I mentioned. And hence, would be driven IMMEDIATELY to resume pill/opiate use.
 
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Binge Artist said:
OK, something fucked up's going on here.

Marijuana is a drug. I just don't see how it could affect me soooo soooo sooooooo much differently than it does all y'all. For example, you give someone opiates, their pain goes away, they become sedated, and their mood is one of contentment. You give someone cocaine, they become uplifted, outgoing, and chatty. See what I mean? Drugs have certain "standard" effects.

Therefore, since MJ causes in me the following symptoms, I assume it MUST for all of y'all.

1. Physical coldness; not unlike the "chills" from opiate WD's, where not even heavy blankets or hot tubs can restore comfort.

2. Mental confusion; a very bizzare mental state, where one no longer perceives differences between, say, cats and people, or cars and tables, etc, etc.

3. Difficulty breathing; very similar to how one feels when one has exercised to the point of being out of breath.

4. Chest pains; here, there is a mixture of pains. The most notable one is a distinct feeling of "pressure" in the chest cavity. Similar to how laying a couple 80 lb bags of concrete across your chest feels. The second type of chest pain is more "intermittent", and feels like what I would imagine being stabbed feels like.

5. Feelings of impending heart attack or death; which I believe is the result of the mind making "rational" (of course, the mind is so fucked in this state, who knows, right?) conclusions concerning the last four symptoms.
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Bottom-line is, weed affects everyone differently..

But with that said, I'd be willing to bet you had a few negative experiences smoking pot in the past and now you have all these negative side-effects built up in your head.. its call placebo effect, i would be surprised if at least some of (if not all of) your problems with smoking herb are all mental.

Binge Artist said:
And if weed affects some of y'all differently than that...the only conclusion I can make is that there must be something WRONG...seriously wrong...with you. My best hypothesis ATM would be lack of self awareness (ie, inability to recognize that their thinking has becomed fucked, that their breathing and cardiovascular system has gone to hell, etc etc).
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Why would you assume something is wrong with US when YOU'RE the one who can't enjoy a mild buzz? It has absolutely nothing to do with lack of awareness, these side effects simply don't plague the bulk majority of us. The fact that you can't enjoy herb, means if anything, there is something wrong with YOU, not everyone else..

Do you really think pot would be the most popular illicit drug in the world if everyone experienced all that hell you described above? What your saying makes such little sense that it almost seems like your trolling me (if i didn't know better ;))
 
LOL, beta, I ain't trolling ya. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of something that has boggled me for quite some time.


beta1 said:
Why would you assume something is wrong with US when YOU'RE the one who can't enjoy a mild buzz? It has absolutely nothing to do with lack of awareness, these side effects simply don't plague the bulk majority of us.
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First, do those five symptoms I described sound "mild" to you??? Your idea of a "mild buzz" is having your mentality slashed to that of a two year old and feeling as if your chest is in a vice grip???


I mean, I just don't get how our reactions to the drug can be THAT different. I'll even withdraw my statement about something being wrong with all of y'all. However, there must be something wrong with ONE of us.
 
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Well its like I said, maybe its not a mild buzz for you, but it is for the rest of us..


There really is nothing to get to the bottom of IMO.. You saying you "don't get how our reactions could be so much different"? Well, its not that uncommon for people to have vastly different reactions to smoking herb (or any substance).. Sorry if that seems strange, but thats just how it is.

Think about LSD, sure its the same drug no matter who takes it.. But the experience can be amazingly positive for one, and extremely dark and negative for another. All depends on the person and the situation, same rules apply to smoking ganja.
 
Cannabis can be very bad if a user isn't mature enough to handle their use. Its very easy to become a lazy pothead.

I however love cannabis. The high is great when you only smoke a few times a week. Also I find I do alot more drinking when smoking weed isn't an option, which is much worse for me in so many ways.

I've never been an opiate addict so its tough for me to say how it would effect your situation, but for me pot is one of those things that I don't think I'll ever really quit for good. The positives just outweigh the negatives so much.
 
As long as you completely realize that whatever high you will get from weed will pale in comparison to the high you were getting from oxy/benzos/whatever you were using, then I think you will be alright.

Don't have high expectations. You may be craving a high that weed will not help you achieve. If this is the case, I would not smoke. If you are looking for a different experience, I would say go for it. Do you have enough control to stay away from whatever could make you relapse?

I think you are the only one who knows the answer for sure.
 
I know someone who would smoke marijuana instead of doing benzos until he was sober. As for all substances, they are tools or burdens, depending on you.
 
weed is god.

god is good, but can be a wrathful cruel bitch.

Really though, BEST DRUG EVER. weed wins.

Heroin would win if it wasnt so...you know, life ruining.
 
Binge Artist said:
First, do those five symptoms I described sound "mild" to you??? Your idea of a "mild buzz" is having your mentality slashed to that of a two year old and feeling as if your chest is in a vice grip???
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Maybe try smoking less? Of course i dont know what or how your smoking but for me a huge rip off a bong with danks can really mess me up for a few minutes. Slowing the pace of smoking and just getting to the point i wanna be at can really help to avoid any negative aspects of weed.
 
Binge Artist said:
LOL, beta, I ain't trolling ya. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of something that has boggled me for quite some time.





First, do those five symptoms I described sound "mild" to you??? Your idea of a "mild buzz" is having your mentality slashed to that of a two year old and feeling as if your chest is in a vice grip???


I mean, I just don't get how our reactions to the drug can be THAT different. I'll even withdraw my statement about something being wrong with all of y'all. However, there must be something wrong with ONE of us.
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You have to be trolling, your posts have been ridiculous. Those side effects do not happen to me or anyone I know who smokes weed regularly. You clearly have problems with anxiety.
 
If the OP has been sober for two months, and was in some sort of treatment program pot would wreck his sobriety and likely put him back to the spot that led him to seek treatment. Pot counts as a drug, addiction is a process and things like pot feed that addiction process and cycle. Eventually you will be back to pills if you crash your sobriety with pot.
 
This is a funny question, because weed is a peculiar drug. I've smoked weed daily for the past 8 years or so, and in all my time smoking it, I can agree with everyone else that no two people have the exact same response to it. In fact, your reaction can vary even with the type of weed, the strength, the time you smoked it, what else is in your system, what's on your mind, etc.

If you want to smoke it, go ahead and try it. It's not going to kill you, that's for sure. If you find that your experience is unpleasant, then you don't have to keep smoking--and you'll only be high for a few hours. Eat something substantial to bring yourself down if you smoke and really don't want to be high anymore.

About getting hooked on pills again-- If you drink alcohol and manage to not do pills anymore, then it shouldn't be any different than with weed. All drugs have the potential to cause dependency though, and if you have an addictive personality, then you need to be aware of this. Just being aware can help you not become addicted. Good luck, and have fun.

EDIT: oh, and about what some others have said in here about the anxiety effects of weed. I've met/smoked with probably hundreds of other weed smokers, and while some have said it caused a panic attack, I'm positive it was related to outside stress factors combined with the high. Weed alone is not the cause of anxiety--it's only a catalyst when placed in the right environment. As in, the person has to be somewhat stressed before they smoke, be prone to panic attacks, etc.
 
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Weed has helped me detox from heroin, weed and benzos being the only things that helped.

Weed has greatly helped my anger problems and probably kept me out of jail.

Weed can be bad because it's illegal and you can get arrested and your life basically ruined by having repeated drug felonies on your criminal record. You may even end up in prison being ass raped. 52% of prisoners in the U.S are in for non violent drug crimes. (last time I checked)

Weed can cause panic attacks, paranoia, racing heart etc etc in users with low tolerance.

Face it, weed profits fuel alot of those killings going on in mexico. Certainly not the users fault, but still.

It seems when you first start smoking its almost psychedlic, when I got off probation my pulse went to 116 after 3 hits off a joint!!

as your tolerance grows it becomes just something that makes you feel better and more comfortable.

So yes of course marijuana can be bad....

As far as drugs go its the bees knees though
 
Its been over 3 months and i finally took a hitt of some good weed tonight. It gave me boost in mental focus and took me out of any depressing thoughts i was having.

I first tried weed at like 17 and not sure what i did differently after 3 months of being sober this time but the high was way better. I was not losing my mind but total opposite i was focused and feeling good. I been working out the past few months and was just looking at my body and feeling good about everything. It kinda reminded me of the state of mind when your n shrooms and you analyse you current and future goals. It was all positive things i could think which made my whole high better than before.

I like weed again more than ever but i dont think i will be smoking it more than once a week as i would rather workout and be healthy.
 
sounds like things are going well, take all the information and comments on here with a grain of salt bro, only you will know whats really good for you, when your in control of course, and you seem to be very much in control, feel good and peace
 
dd2bj said:
I've been sober for 2 months now besides alchole a couple of times. I was wondering if weed would affect my sobriety? make me want to get high on pills again? I use to smoke weed alot but it would make me have anxeity.

Im wondering if this was from the dependence on pills and should i give it another try.

Does weed harm you?
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What pills were you addicted to?

When herb and life were giving me really bad anxiety I stopped smoking since I knew it would make things worse.

I know someone who was addicted to morphine and other prescription opiates and they still smoke a fair amount but that's their choice and they do not use any opiates at all anymore.

I also know alcoholics who do not touch a drop of booze at all anymore not even when they are sick and Nyquil would help but they smoke herb daily.

If you think that smoking herb will make you relapse on whatever pills you are/were addicted to and give you horrible anxiety I wouldn't smoke.
 
spaceyourbass said:
You're very wrong. A large percentage of cocaine addicts relapse only when under the influence of alcohol.

On the other hand, there's a reason that NA and AA counselors 'look the other way' when a group member smokes weed.
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I know this was posted lke 2 weeks ago...but in myexperience

NA and AA members do NOT look the other way when a group member smokes weed.

I don't know what you mean by na "counselor" but, beleive me, drug use is 101% frowned upon

Try going to an NA meeting gand saying HEY EVERYONE IM DOING GREAT IM CLEAN I GOT MY 60 DAYS, I JUST SMOKE WEED


also, from my own experience

I have had greater runs at sobriety when I was completely clean (no weed or alc) vs if I tried stopping all drugs except weed.

When I am smoking all the time I am still in the mentality of getting fucked up, which eventualyl would lead me back to other drugs.

Right nwo I have kind of reached a happy medium...and am enjoying weed
 
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