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is it the coke or the person?

yougeekay

yougeekay

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my best friend since 6th grade (21 now)(and i mean my real best friend) is no longer the same person whatsoever. hes like a shadow, a selfish caricature of himself, even when he is sober. its like even when he pretends to care about his friends, he is only really caring in order to feed his selfish needs, then he lies to himself about it and believes his own laws without flinching. he just wasn't like this before, all of his friends have sat him down and tried to say something... i just never really seen shit happen like that to people especially close to me like he don't even look the same, you can't even look at him without being grossed out. he does the biggest lines of coke and hes so gone he can't even remember or control what he says or does... then he gets wasted and does whatever molly or rolls he can find ever, which is easy to find. plus he has a 800 dollar a week paycheck to sit on his ass because his family is rich as fuck and he lives at home so he blows it all on this shit.

like wtf how does coke make someone this bad, through all the drugs im convinced it was the coke almost, along with his own choices, because that shit just made him grimey, and he'll buy it and no matter what he thinks its fire and its not even that good. like that shit got inside him and hid him from himself he aint even the same, and he cant even see it.

i can see why the government flies that shit in here.

and now that i see that happening to my best friend i can sort of start to recognize that kind of behavior in my own family even my own parents when i look back now (cause it took me a while to notice it with my best friend even though hed been like that for a while), when you add coke into the equation the whole picture starts to make a lot more sense... like cause i know my parents did it back in the day when it was fire and even though there clean now like there still kinda like you can see the long term damage its done to them. that has to be like americas secret life story.
 
I HATE Coke. I HATE what it does to people.
It is actually the one(non-physically addiciting) drug I Detest.

Ive seen people go ego-ballistic on it and it scared the crap out of me, they were full on delusional. It can make people very callous alright.
Am with you my friend!
 
Yeah coke is probably the drug I feel the most disgust towards. Made me feel worse than anything else and had to see my dad and ex-gf fiending for it all the time.

Things can get ugly when any drug is used heavily. I hope things work out for you and your friend...nothing wrong with taking a bit of a break if the friendship is draining you.
 
i loved coke. it was my favorite drug. but the price (i got good deals too) and duration/comedown led me to stop doing it. i was just doing it occasionally. imo it was better/more euphoric than meth.
 
"That has to be America's secret life story."
Holy shit, that's a brilliant conclusion. I'm not even being sarcastic. When I look at the people in my family who used to do coke, a few uncles, and older cousins, it totally makes sense to me. That shit used to be everywhere in the 80's and 70's.
 
When I was in grad school, I made a really good friend. We'd hang out and drink, amoke pot, etc. after the day was done. He was doing great in school and was just about done woth his PhD when he suddenly changed. I didn't know it but he started doing coke and his whole life started going to shit. He really started to act like an asshole, he got kicked out of school because he threatened his adviser and wasn't allowed back on campus. He started to make stupid videos of himself for youtube that were totally embarassing and made him look unbelievably stupid. I didn't know it, but he was bipolar and doing the coke just threw him into a psychotic episode. He had to go away for awhile.

He smashed his whole life up. Though he was like six months away from getting his PhD, he couldn't finish because of his threatening behavior.

He cleaned up and he's back to being a really good guy and he's very successful now in his new job. Too bad he had to throw away alot of hard work for some powder.
 
I felt like god when I did coke...as long as I didn't over do it. Still, it along with a few other drugs started controlling my life and I'm just glad I got off the shit. The feeling is great, but the long term effects of it are not worth the godlike feeling while you are on it.
 
Ahhhh fuck coke. I didn't even read your post in its entirety to know that this is not the person, but the coke. Coke, IMO is one of the worst drugs just for the fact that it gives off such a short lasting high and leaves people craving it, sometimes doing anything to get it (especially crack). I just came off of a benzo addiction and was a completely different person while on it than I am now. Get your friend some help and don't give up on him. Encourage him to enter a 12-step program.
 
It sounds like he wasn't that great of a person to begin with.

Maybe you can appeal to his parents so he can get into rehabilitation. Have you considered doing this? I'm sure many people wouldn't go through with this because of how your friend might react and such.
 
^^ Very true, although you have to think of how thankful that person SHOULD be that you were trying to help them out in the end when they are rehabilitated.... If they cannot appreciate that then they are not a friend you want to have! Some people went to my parents when I was heavily using benzos in an attempt to get me into rehab, and although my parents will not tell me who that person is, whoever it is I am eternally grateful.
 
thats cool^



through my job, i know many coke addicts who have done coke for YEARS and still maintain a 'functional' life. in my opinion, and yes it is an opinion, totally based on observation, but some people totally flip their shit when they get into coke or speed, and i think in many cases it is bc they were bipolar or schizophrenic, etc before, but the coke or meth or whatever vastlyyyy exaggerates those aspects of their personality.

yeah, coke is a HORRIBLE addiction in general. but w some, it takes, what a year? max? and they spiral into the behavior you described.

it's the person.
 
CoffeeDrinker said:
"That has to be America's secret life story."
Holy shit, that's a brilliant conclusion. I'm not even being sarcastic. When I look at the people in my family who used to do coke, a few uncles, and older cousins, it totally makes sense to me. That shit used to be everywhere in the 80's and 70's.
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Okay, i want to know more about this. What patterns do you see in your family?? The only person that i know in the generation before mine who did coke is my dad in the 90's and now he's 60 and pretty chill as fuck. I mean he did more coke in a week than I did in the years i used it and it's not really affecting him. No heart problems. Strokes. All that...

either way i agree with everyone. i fucking hate coke. it took me too long to realize that.
 
I only did coke several times but hate the substance. Hate having my heart beat so fast for no reason other than the drug. New a guy in college that dealt coke to put himself threw college & he would sell it to alot of college kids. Went to a coke party back in the early 90's & couldnt believe what girls would do for this stuff. Some girls will do anything for some good coke.

I knew a guy that was a painter/contractor that got hooked on coke & was always broke & he was making like $2,000 a week from work.

Good luck with your friend. I believe coke takes your soul like meth does. You become careless & dont care whose feelings you hurt.
 
it's the person it's the drug it's the disease. I doubt he'll want to get help but if his family is his enabler with financial support (you mentioned this) then it will be doubly hard unless they can draw a line in the sand. Whenever you have someone enabling you addiction as a disease just becomes even worse -- if you are getting "free money" why in the hell would you stop ? Your friend is gonna have to rewire the attic and really try to make it work, if he doesn't want to, don't give up but start separating yourself from him and his disease. Show him that their are consequences to his action, hopefully his family will get on board also.
 
yeah, coke can do that to a person...the person BECOMES the drug. they disappear completely, and the drug takes over them.

i got really into coke when i was 18. then i found meth. meth became my drug of choice and so i started using everyday...me and my BF use together. i absolutely hate that drug, because of what it does to me and the people i love that also use it...you become a shell of a person. i didn't even recognize myself when i looked in the mirror. i was disgusted, distraught, and lost. i would look at my BF when we were high, and it was like he was a complete STRANGER. i didn't know who he was anymore...it wasn't him, it wasn't the person i knew. he and i both became the drug. we weren't ourselves anymore...
 
godlovesugly said:
yeah, coke can do that to a person...the person BECOMES the drug. they disappear completely, and the drug takes over them.

i got really into coke when i was 18. then i found meth. meth became my drug of choice and so i started using everyday...me and my BF use together. i absolutely hate that drug, because of what it does to me and the people i love that also use it...you become a shell of a person. i didn't even recognize myself when i looked in the mirror. i was disgusted, distraught, and lost. i would look at my BF when we were high, and it was like he was a complete STRANGER. i didn't know who he was anymore...it wasn't him, it wasn't the person i knew. he and i both became the drug. we weren't ourselves anymore...
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how are you now
 
Joozeboi said:
Okay, i want to know more about this. What patterns do you see in your family?? The only person that i know in the generation before mine who did coke is my dad in the 90's and now he's 60 and pretty chill as fuck. I mean he did more coke in a week than I did in the years i used it and it's not really affecting him. No heart problems. Strokes. All that...

either way i agree with everyone. i fucking hate coke. it took me too long to realize that.
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Just people who are stuck up and selfish and airheaded at the same time. People who can't see past their own nose and think only about themselves.
I'm talking about several Aunts/Uncles who are like this, all with varying degrees of success in their careers, some with no careers, some with great ones, but they all act in a similar selfish/unimpressive way. Their pasts are rarely talked about with honesty during family gatherings, but I know for a fact many of them have used quite a lot of it back in the day.

That's cool that your dad is chill, not everyone is though.
 
it's the coke.
i lived in south fla during the '80s and saw way too many average regular people turn into fiends.
it turned me into a fiend for a short time too. my husband liked it way too much and it caused shit between us.
friends nicknamed me "the un-cola" which seems funny now but i was not amused then.
ickkkk, makes me twitch just thinkin about it.
-izzy
 
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