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Is it safe to try Heroin if you have a low opiate tolerance ?

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Is it safe ? Say, someone has a really low tolerance to oxycodone, like 10mg maximum and they want to try Heroin for the first time , how much should they try ? Should they ? Or will it be too strong for them to handle and OD ?
 
Im not going to comment on the OD part because i just think its a bad idea, why would you want to try something that could send you down a horrible road(and death)? If you can still catch a buzz off oxy - stay with it, maybe take another 10mg. I just find this very unsafe and unnecessary but I cant tell you what you can and cant do...
 
^ agree. 10mg oxy is a very very low natural tolerance, you should be thankful for it. Problem with heroin is that it's very difficult to standardise a dose, due to varying purity.

Other than that, heroin isn't a particularly dangerous opiate. It's the impurities, inconsistent dose ranges and lifestyle that cause most of the trouble.
 
Taking street drugs of unknown purity is never safe, and there's never a good reason to get started with H, nothing good will come out of it. Also, if you can still get proper off just 10mg of oxy, just keeping on going with that, seriously.

However, if you must do it, there are some things you can do:
1. If it's powder, chop up a bag into a bunch of (maybe 6) small lines. Snort one, wait for 20 min, then go for another, wait again, repeat until you get where you want.

2. If tar either: a) Chase it off foil, don't have to put the whole bag on foil, but in any case you're not likely to OD. Titrate up to a nice place.

b) You can waterline it (dissolve the H in water, then use a syringe or eyedrop or something and drip it into your nose. You'll want to use as little water as possible, and don't put more than 5-10 units in your nostril at a time to avoid losing any to the drip), same titration rules as snorting powder.
 
Never Knows Best said:
Taking street drugs of unknown purity is never safe, and there's never a good reason to get started with H, nothing good will come out of it. Also, if you can still get proper off just 10mg of oxy, just keeping on going with that, seriously.

However, if you must do it, there are some things you can do:
1. If it's powder, chop up a bag into a bunch of (maybe 6) small lines. Snort one, wait for 20 min, then go for another, wait again, repeat until you get where you want.

2. If tar either: a) Chase it off foil, don't have to put the whole bag on foil, but in any case you're not likely to OD. Titrate up to a nice place.

b) You can waterline it (dissolve the H in water, then use a syringe or eyedrop or something and drip it into your nose. You'll want to use as little water as possible, and don't put more than 5-10 units in your nostril at a time to avoid losing any to the drip), same titration rules as snorting powder.
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I agree with this. Avoid switching to heroin at all costs. But if you're going to do it regardless, follow Never's advice. The only thing I wanted to add is that on Bluelight many people seem to assume that heroin is sold in the same quantities using the same slang terms to describe them everywhere, but a "bag" in one place could refer to 0.05grams and in another could refer to 0.5grams. Where I live for example, we don't even have "bags", it comes in "spits", which are like tiny balloons or tightly sealed plastic (called "spits" cause you can hide them in your mouth if you see the cops) and are sold in quantities of 0.25grams or 0.5grams. Occasionally in the bigger cities in the seediest parts of town you might be able to get a "ten-flap", which is a folded paper that costs $10 with an undetermined amount of heroin inside, usually around 0.04grams. I'm just pointing this out because I see people talking about quantities in number of bags or fractions of a bag all the time, which would not be helpful if the heroin comes in different quantities where the person lives. 1/6 of a 0.5gram amount of heroin, for example, could be dangerous to someone with little/no tolerance.
 
mr.scagnattie said:
Going from 10mg's of oxy to H would be like... jerking off alone in your basement to having a threesome with a few victoria secret models...
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LMAO, I love this analogy & its correct........no need to go from 20mgs of oxycodone to heroin. There are so many other pills you can try besides the strong & unknowing heroin.
 
Please i BEG of you do NOT make a switch to heroin, from personal experience!!!!! Its an evil drug, and DONT do it, if you must get some blues then do that instead, even taking 20's (A) or 30's (M) is much better than doing a bag of heroin or injecting etc. DONT DO IT!!!!
 
Swimmingdancer said:
I agree with this. Avoid switching to heroin at all costs. But if you're going to do it regardless, follow Never's advice. The only thing I wanted to add is that on Bluelight many people seem to assume that heroin is sold in the same quantities using the same slang terms to describe them everywhere, but a "bag" in one place could refer to 0.05grams and in another could refer to 0.5grams. Where I live for example, we don't even have "bags", it comes in "spits", which are like tiny balloons or tightly sealed plastic (called "spits" cause you can hide them in your mouth if you see the cops) and are sold in quantities of 0.25grams or 0.5grams. Occasionally in the bigger cities in the seediest parts of town you might be able to get a "ten-flap", which is a folded paper that costs $10 with an undetermined amount of heroin inside, usually around 0.04grams. I'm just pointing this out because I see people talking about quantities in number of bags or fractions of a bag all the time, which would not be helpful if the heroin comes in different quantities where the person lives. 1/6 of a 0.5gram amount of heroin, for example, could be dangerous to someone with little/no tolerance.
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In reply to this, i snorted heroin out of bags, these bags were potent at first, if i did one i'd be done, i got to the point of doing 10-14 bags a day, and these bags were heavy and good, my guy never got shitty stuff (user for 30+ years) so 20mg of oxy vs even 5 grams of heroin are a completely different ballgame, i could snort an 80mg oxy and barely feel a thing, vs 3 bags of dope
 
my 2p (or 2c if your that way inclined) is that the guys asking about this cuz he has the curiosity that got ALL addicts here there and everywhere. telling op not to do it is great from a harm reduction point of veiw, but if he dont get the answer he wants here he will keep asking folk till he gets the answer he wants (i did) so try it this way.
1 score a bag
2 leave it
3 go bed
4 wake up (time spent clearing out whatever else is in your system)
5 SMOKE THE GEAR ON FOIL (pins are for experts/junkies/down and outs)(me)(youll throw up and fall asleep before you get anywhere near hurting yourself)
6 repeat daily for a few years
7 take advice on pins and ods
8 hit rock bottom
9 come back here and abuse me for this advice

infact stop at step 5, no need to rush

popeye
 
Lmao just because I IV occasionally doesnt mean me or anyone else cant keep it in check. My first time IVing was better than sex but I only do it from time to time so I still get thay same rush that I no longer get from pills. But if op wants to try H I recommend water line put it in eye dropper with water put a lil bit at a time till you get where u want.
 
you won't die unless you do way way too much. in the UK pills aren't so common to doing h with no opiate tolerance is usual. fucked for a couple days. i remember lying down in red lion sq, holborn, london, on a beautiful day about this time last year, morning after one of my first times still getting opi dreams. wooooooooshhhhh
 
i against i said:
you won't die unless you do way way too much.
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People die from heroin overdoses all the time and it is not something you want to take lightly. Especially when injecting with a low tolerance it is extremely easy to take a lethal dose. I have had friends who were very experienced users with a high tolerance who have died of heroin overdoses, and I have watched people OD in front of me (thankfully those ones didn't die because I called an ambulance immediately, but it was still a terrible and frightening experience). So it is not good advice to say "you won't die unless you take way way too much". You can die from taking just a tiny bit too much. And for new users or a new dope supply it's very hard to know what "too much" is. Best idea is to always start with a very tiny amount.
 
0newishisal said:
In reply to this, i snorted heroin out of bags, these bags were potent at first, if i did one i'd be done, i got to the point of doing 10-14 bags a day, and these bags were heavy and good, my guy never got shitty stuff (user for 30+ years)
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But what was the weight of these bags? My point was that in different places heroin comes in different quantities.
20mg of oxy vs even 5 grams of heroin are a completely different ballgame, i could snort an 80mg oxy and barely feel a thing, vs 3 bags of dope
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5 grams of heroin would immediately kill someone who was used to 20mg of Oxy. Did you mean to say 0.05 grams? Or 5mg (that would be 0.05g)?
 
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0newishisal said:
In reply to this, i snorted heroin out of bags, these bags were potent at first, if i did one i'd be done, i got to the point of doing 10-14 bags a day, and these bags were heavy and good, my guy never got shitty stuff (user for 30+ years) so 20mg of oxy vs even 5 grams of heroin are a completely different ballgame, i could snort an 80mg oxy and barely feel a thing, vs 3 bags of dope
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Good point (being socal we get balloons here). I used the term bag since it's prolific on BL, and is convenient shorthand for one-standard-dose.
 
^Well that'd vary from place to place, dealer to dealer, given purity and other factors, but people in that area or use the same guy as you would likely to know, and be able to tell any prospective user (this assuming they know people, and aren't cold-copping off the street). Prototypically, I'd expect .1g per bag, 1g per bundle.
 
Never Knows Best said:
^Well that'd vary from place to place, dealer to dealer, given purity and other factors, but people in that area or use the same guy as you would likely to know, and be able to tell any prospective user (this assuming they know people, and aren't cold-copping off the street). Prototypically, I'd expect .1g per bag, 1g per bundle.
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(Sorry, that's what I meant to type in my last post - now edited - 0.1g). Snorting a line of 1/6 of a bag would probably be fine if the bag is 0.1g. I just brought this up because if a person was getting bags that contained more than that then taking 1/6 of a bag could be dangerous. It's a very good idea to find out how much heroin is in the bag/balloon/spit/flap/bundle/paper/foil/whatever you are getting. Where I live a "point" means 0.1g, a "quarter" means 1/4g=0.25g and a "half" means 1/2g=0.5g. Also in case anyone reading this is thinking of trying injecting heroin, I would recommend starting with an even smaller amount, like 0.01g (1/10th of a 0.1g bag).
 
No not .05 u would go through a bundle to 14 bags a day sometimes, whether it was heavy weight or not, the last month I did it it got to the point I wasn't getting high I was doing a bundle just to feel normal. We would get "sleepy giant" which I knew to be just over .2
 
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