Heroin Is it possible to use H as a pain reduction strategy?

[qwertymang]

I have severe daily pain. I have Neuropathy as a result of damage to a lumbar nerve displacement resulting from disc damage. In the past I've been prescribed dilauded in a dose of 6-8mg, 4x daily. I never showed abusive behaviour, over a 9 month period of use. I was taken off as a result of a decision by my doctor. I'm now in a level of constant pan which prevents me from functioning, and I'm unable to renew my prescription. I also take Gabapentin, 300mg, 4x daily

I had been given .3g of brown no.3 heroin. at an estimated dose of 10mg, 3-4x daily, I was able to maintain a relatively comfortable, pain manageable state of living, without seriously surpassing the dosage threshold required for euphoria.

Is this maintainable? H scared the shit out of me, but in a cost vs. effect scenario, it is about 10x cheaper than buying street priced medication. 30$ of H lasted me a week. while 30$ of Oxy or Dilauded wouldn't last me a day.
While I could afford to manage my pain with alternative pills, it would just about suck me dry financially.

Has anyone on here effectively used H without it sneaking up on them? Am I a fool to try?

I'd love to here experience on the subject, or have a discussion with someone who's been there.

Have a great day BL'ers!

 

['medicine cabinet']

I am guessing you are in the UK? reason i ask is because you called it no3 heroin. To answer your question, heroin is indeed a great painkiller, its like morphine on steroids. comparable to just about every other full agonist opioid. It is still used in many countries as a painkiller as opposed to places like the US that have in as a CI drug meaning its highly abusable and doesnt have medical value.

ITs a tough call, being in pain doesnt leave you with too many options except opiates, and since heroin is usually way cheaper than buying pills on the street i can see how it looks attractive. sooner or later though your tolerance will rise and you will find yourself doing more to acheive the same effect. plus since its a street drug you are never sure on quality, where with a pharm you always know your dose and can keep an eye on it. Dope you will get weak stuff sometimes, or maybe get really strong stuff sometimes. I would imagine most ppl here use heroin as a recreational drug, not really for its painkilling effect. Could you maybe try a different doctor? get something strong again like the dilaudid? I would say to leave the H alone because you are asking for trouble, but im not the one in pain. good luck man.

 

[CoolTurkey]

Your not a fool for seeking a more effective mediation for you pain, and not to mention a cheaper one. I went from prescription opiates to brown for the same reasons. It seemed cheaper and worked wonders for my sciatica, but in the long run it cost me more than I could have ever dreamed. My tolerance went up much more quickly than I anticipated. A few lines turned into a few bags, and then shots thick as gravy. It's possible to maintain on it but I would not recommend. If you are hyper vigilant and watch your tolerance you might have success considering you didn't abuse your hydromorphone. Be careful and don't let yourself go. Good luck!

 

[qwertymang]

I'm in Canada. I called it no.3, because I was browsing the internet and the exact visual match was called no.3. I'm extremely unfamiliar with the lingo surrounding it. Although I have a history of psychadellic use, its something thats long past, and I was never into/around the use of recreational opiates.


*edit*
As I'm involved in a workers compensation case for my back injury, seeing another doctor isn't possible. My biggest worry right now is someone demanding a drug test, testing positive, and losing my funding. I'd be out on my ass.

 

[ksr1286]

I am actually experiencing the same thing. I have had fibramyalgia for years and lower back problems. I was prescriped medications also, but as we all know our tolerance builds up. So when my doctor tapered me off my meds and i started having severe pain once again, a friend introduced me to heroin. It helped at first and I was able to maintain for a LITTLE while and then it did catch up with me quickly. I ended up addicted and needed more and more. I know it seems like the best alternative finacially but i feel like the previous post... finding another doctor would be the best option. I wish you lots of luck. I feel so much for those in pain... its a horrible thing to have to endure every day!

 

[tricomb]

No. Turning to heroin is exactly what they will be expecting. It doesn't work well long term either.

 

[qwertymang]

I'll discontinue use as of today.

I'll also have a frank discussion with my doctor. the last two times I've seen him I've been partially self medicated, and I don't believe he fully understand the level of pain I'm in. I hope I can get back on my meds and lead a normalish life again.
I really appreciate the frank opinions.

As an aside... <I'm afraid we don't allow drug testing questions any longer, but we have an entire forum dedicated to such discussion, the material is not gone over ad nauseum but I assure you the topic has been covered extensively.>

Unless i do something stupid which puts me under question for drug use, there would be no <...snip...>, but I understand where the concern stems from.

 

[Tommyboy]

If you actually knew the purity of the heroin then it might be more plausible. Since that's not the case and the potency varies from batch to batch, it just makes the whole thing more complicated.

 

[pbuilder]

Honestly, I'm sure you have good intentions and all, and truly are just using small doses for real pain management but I can guarantee you their are thousands of IV junkies who have a 100$+ a day habit now, that started off in the exact same boat as you.

 

[qwertymang]

Honestly, I'm sure you have good intentions and all, and truly are just using small doses for real pain management but I can guarantee you their are thousands of IV junkies who have a 100$+ a day habit now, that started off in the exact same boat as you.

I can see this is the case, the answers you all have given me have been unanimous!
I'm going to stop as of today, I've found a somewhat affordable source of Oxy10's I'm going to take them as nescessary, and hopefully get on a legal prescription sometime soon.

Honestly what I really need is a nonmedication therapy for my neuralgia, Its a tough thing to try to deal with because its not something that's easily treated. No one should have to go through a life of pain or (non voluntary) daily drug use.

 

[pbuilder]

Agreed, have you tried to find a pain management doctor?

 

[tricomb]

I'll discontinue use as of today.

I'll also have a frank discussion with my doctor. the last two times I've seen him I've been partially self medicated, and I don't believe he fully understand the level of pain I'm in. I hope I can get back on my meds and lead a normalish life again.
I really appreciate the frank opinions.


Unless i do something stupid which puts me under question for drug use,

From their perspective, using heroin is something stupid worthy of drug testing. We don't discuss that here but checkout the link to our forum which has covered the topic extensively.

I'm very glad to hear you'll discontinue, it's no easy feat and as a chronic pain patient I empathize with you, I know how it is to be willing to do anything for relief. I'm underprescribed and one of the hardest things I've been avoiding is using medication that's not prescribed to me. It is very tempting knowing that I don't have to be feeling the way I do all the time, but learning to control these urges is essential. I know it sucks living with unrelenting pain, but doctors won't take you seriously if you're doing heroin, even though it's just another opiate.

Plus, street heroin for pain just doesn't work. Pharmaceutical diamorphine, now that's another story, but we don't have that in the USA or Canada to my knowledge. People think "Oh, X bucks a bag?! This is cheap! Why didn't I think of this sooner" but Tommyboy hit the nail on the head. It's an uncontrolled substance, of which purity is shamefully low and dangerously variable. Any two bags of the same stamp or whatever can contain radically different amount of active ingredient because this drug is uncontrolled and no one is able to regulate the homogenizing process, which is done in clandestine settings by people who may be experienced, but often lack enough qualification to be putting the lives of so many people at risk.

Now, the FDA certainly isn't perfect, far from it, it's a flawed organization but at the end of the day, while they have seriously messed up by capitalism in other ways, I am thankful every time I take some medicine that I know how it will effect me. The unpredictable factor of heroin is extremely unattractive and detrimental to a chronic pain patient, because for best results, you usually need steady amounts of medication around the clock, depending on your pain condition.