One time I gave a buddy of mine mushroom tea in a gatorade bottle, he knew it was mushroom tea. The next day he picked up a friend in his car and the kid was parched and downed the bit that was left (over a half eighth easy).. needless to say, the kid had never tripped before and lost his mind in the worst way possible.
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Is it possible to be slipped a psychedelic without knowing and have a good trip?
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Anon0631
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Can we close this thread please? The rape analogy is the beginning and end of the conversation as far as I'm concerned.
justinsayno
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so you spiked someone with MDMA, how would you've justified this is they'd had a bad reaction and died ?
Spiking someone with acid gets a lol ?
Spiking someone with salvia is funny ?
Im not sure you're in any position to call people retarded.
Anon0631
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^ this!
Deinonychus
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No, sorry, it doesn't. If you're at a party or party-ish event where the vibe is such that people are slipping psychedelic drugs in eachother's drink/food/other drugs then it's not exactly going to be unexpected if you yourself get dosed. So sure, merry pranksters, Beatles' introduction to LSD, etc. may appear to be the perfect 'oops, I gotcha!' moments to wave around as examples of why my sweeping generalization is incorrect, but you fail because that isn't the point I was making or the point the OP appears to have been making.
That point was relevant to *whether or not you can enjoy it if you're unexpectedly dosed with trippy drugs*. So as I just pointed out, if you get dosed by your homies at a party or your dentist, then that isn't unexpected, as your prior interactions with this person has indicated that dosing you without telling anybody is an acceptable thing to do.
And you, good sir, are a sadistic, slimy piece of human waste, demonstrating your complete lack of any redeeming qualities by trying to wave your enormous inflatable Internet penis around to try and make me feel like a fool by bragging about having essentially forced drugs on other people. Nice try, no cigar.
It doesn't count as 'oh but people get dosed in secret all the time!' when in all actuality two of your examples are about your own sociopathic self fucking with people, the third is completely unlikely and probably made-up to further extend said Internet penis (oh, you saw it was real MDMA cause it was the same pill you already had tried? Gee, I thought he was *surreptitiously* dosing your drink, as in, secretly? Did he show you what secret pill he secretly put in your drink before secretly handing it over to you first?). And the fourth is complete hearsay, and also probably totally fictional (oh my friend said blah blah blah..)
Seriously, you want to take issue with my posts, be my guest, do so in a useful, civil fashion like the first poster did. I stand by my statement that getting dosed specifically with a psychedelic truly unexpectedly really does not happen frequently at all.
But being a child about it and acting like a fool will earn you nothing but scorn from the vast majority of Bluelight, and a thorough verbal whipping from myself. And I didn't even have to pull rude words out of my rectum to do it either, see? You want to act like a douche, go douche it up elsewhere, like, oh I don't know, the proscribed douching area for the whole forum, that being the Lounge?
nolys
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Ok to be completely clear, I do not condone spiking of completely unwilling and unsuspecting people...
Ill be more clear in my statements...
1. The salvia - we were all 14, about a group of 20 of us, I had nothing to do with and knew nothing about the fact that it had happened in the first place, but yes the resulting 5 minnute robot dance was extremely funny...
2. My friend, who was my closest friend at this point had expressed an extreme desire to try mdma. His problem was that he was very sporty and didn't want the stigma of being a drug user attached to him by taking the drugs himself, he had made it pretty clear this was the only reason he hadn't taken them before, there had been consent given for me to do this at some point in the months previous... I had tested the drugs on myself and am extremely experianced in mdma ii know what it was. Pills were all bought from the same source and the dealer has a straight source from the manufacturer...
3. And no actually because I had been discussing the pills with him actually... I hadn't taken any myself at this point it was at the start of the night at a rave where I live... Spiking at raves with e is very common...
4. Yes hearsay, could be bullshit.
So before you go assuming that I have sadisticly went and drugged people, ask you fuckwit... At no point have I ever drugged anyone or let someone be drugged who did not want to be.
I personally have did it to 1 person, and that person wanted me to do it, after he drank his drink I told him so he didn't freak and he said thanks... He hadn't been drinking at this point either so it wasn't as if he said thanks because of drunkeness
And I'm not trying to defend myself to make myself look better... Why would I? I don't frequent this forum very much I use SD and TL (yes I do lounge actually or have done in the past) I'm mainly in SD now.
I don't take drugs anymore at all
lamanogaucha
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Did someone spike the drinks of all the mods yesterday and today? What the...?! 
nolys
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Agreed this thread isn't really going to accomplish anything
Morninggloryseed
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I'm a huge believer that preconceived notions play a HUGE x 100000000000000 role in dictating the type of psychedelic experience a person has. I don't believe it is possible (speaking of USA here) for anyone to have the type of trip people had pre-1966. Watch "LSD Housewife video" to really understand what I mean when I say this. Until the horror stories of the late 60s (LSD will make you think you can fly, my friend took acid and thinks he is an orange, LSD is a DANGEROUS and ILLEGAL drug, etc etc) you could spike someone with LSD and since they would have never heard of it in the first place, the chances of them having a good trip were probably even better than someone taking LSD today with the idea in the back of their mind that they are taking a dangerous and illegal drug 'known' for causing suicides, Charles Manson, etc, ect, etc. I myself was introduced to LSD in the 5th grade during a week of drug education. I was made to produce an educational poster about the 'dangers' of LSD and I was told all sorts of terrifying things about it so as to fill up my poster and get the grade expected of me.
When I gave the example of John and George...I was really just answering the OPs question. Now that everyone and their mother has an opinion about LSD and it's generally not good...no.....I think it would be rare to spike someone with LSD and have them enjoy the trip provided they were eventually told what the hell was happening.
When I gave the example of John and George...I was really just answering the OPs question. Now that everyone and their mother has an opinion about LSD and it's generally not good...no.....I think it would be rare to spike someone with LSD and have them enjoy the trip provided they were eventually told what the hell was happening.
Deinonychus
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Dude, you went and looked like a tool, and now you're just trying to cover your ass which makes you look like a power tool.
If you hadn't personally called me out, I wouldn't have felt the need to get at you like that. But you did. I don't care what caveats you want to try to paste onto your previous post, you said worlds about yourself with that post. If you had the guts you'd try and actually double down on your position that 'spiking people's shit happens all day long etc' like I doubled down on my opinion that it doesn't. But instead you realized that the mean things you bragged about aren't funny to everybody else, so now you're butthurt and bruised on the ego/Internet penis, and are making excuses.
Tricking somebody into smoking salvia is not funny, nor cool. The resulting reaction is not funny in the slightest either. You confirm that you're sociopathic by admitting that yeah, you liked it when it happened, despite trying to make it more palatable to me/whoever else.
Tricking somebody into rolling, no matter what the makeup of the pill, is equally fucked up. Probably less unpleasant for your victim than your buddy's salvia victim but still risking an unpleasant reaction.
Furthermore you prove my point with 2 and 3: the dude you dosed with a roll 'gave consent' supposedly at an earlier time. So either you're a mean person who dosed your dude unexpectedly, or it wasn't really a case of somebody getting their shit spiked because *the atmosphere at the event and/or your personal relationship with them made this seem like an acceptable thing to do*. Take your pick.
Double that for number 3. If dude showed you the rolls, and you talked about rolling, and may have been rolling, then he didn't really dose you unexpectedly, especially since be did it in view of you since you SAW it! It was just one dude giving another a free hit, there's no 'secret dosing' in that chain of events.
And four, sure, I concede the point that it is hearsay and thus inadmissible.
So no, your examples of 'people spike other people's shit all the time!' amount to you watching a friend do something seriously fucking low to somebody else with salvia and your not only not stopping it but enjoying it, two examples where 'consent was given' or the atmosphere/relationship with whoever got dosed was such that there was no 'secret', it was just free drugs, and hearsay.
Now that I've demolished your everything, please go wherever else you normally stay on BL. If you're "...not trying to defend myself to make myself look better...", and that's a *direct quote*, why did you even post a reply? Either you want to make yourself not look sociopathic or you want to sword-fight me with your giant, glowing, radioactive inflatable Internet power-penis, and I have no further interest since I just removed all the air from said inflatable Internet penis with a chem-lab vacuum pump by destroying any credibility you have in this thread.
Anybody that knows me knows I do not talk shit frequently. But I also do not talk idle shit when I do. You called me out, and you lose. Slink off to the Lounge with your deflated phallic nonentity now please.
EDIT: Also, do you see what I just did here? The part where I didn't retort with mean words when you called me a "fuckwit", direct quote? Learn to fight without resorting to ad hominem attacks please, it is an art form that is actually a lot of fun! You'd be surprised how much joy it can be to take somebody apart while retaining your composure all the way.
Also, mods, please get at this topic, even I can see this is going nowhere good!
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Morninggloryseed
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nolys...you got BURNED. Dat honky cracker stole you in da jaw! Shit (golly).
treezy z
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really depends on the situation. i know what lsd feels like so i'd realize i'd been dosed and if i had nothing to do/was in a decent place to trip i'd have a good time.
now if i was slipped a hit and had to go to work, court, see family members etc that'd be fucked.
now if i was slipped a hit and had to go to work, court, see family members etc that'd be fucked.
nolys
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I'm on mobile so can't be fucked replying to your whole message...
How could I have possibly stopped the salvia from happening if I was unaware that it was taking place? And yes, it was fucking funny, I laughed so hard it was unbelievable, that I will admit to... Also I was 14 at the time, doesn't even matter with salvia I would probably laugh now anyway afterwards.
And I didn't see them and he didn't know I seen him doing it, he spoke about it and I noticed him do it at the bar from a distance, free drugs...
Yes the relationship with the person made it accectable, but he didn't know I had done it which means = spiked...
BTW your actually the one acting like your in the lounge “butthurt, chem lab penis pump blah blah blah”.
Your clearly not into the rave scene, spiking happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME, I've been spiked a few times, by friends and strangers, sometimes piperazines were involved, and it completely fucked my night up. I've never personally did it to anyone apart from my friend I mentioned. And I do not think it is an accectable thing to do, especially with long lasting psychs or pills of any kind.
The salvia I will stand by and say that I don't know wether or not I would stop it nowadays, depending on the circumstances. If It was in a friends house in a group and it was safe I would let it happen most likely. In public no I wouldn't. And also this is only if the person is the type who would also do something like this
And I stand by the fact that the salvia spiking was the funniest shit ever.
Other things I found hilarious in school was 1 guy get hit in the face with a bag of cow shit
Somebody getting taped up and thrown down a grass bank
I set off fireworks a few times and got suspended
Teacher got hit up the face with an apple
Teacher got soup thrown all over him
The thing is - your forgetting about group mentality, the crowd I hung with in school wasn't the best of people in fairness, and looking back at it I probably wouldn't change any of it because it in some form made me who I am today. Kids do stupid shit, get over it.
And less of your bullshit trying to make me look stupid comments such as “sword-fight me with your giant, glowing,
radioactive inflatable Internet power-penis, and I
have no further interest since I just removed all
the air from said inflatable Internet penis with a
chem-lab vacuum pump”. Yeah its funny, but this isn't TL.
What you don't realise in by doing that, what you are doing is attacking not the ideas of statements I have put forward, but you are attacking me as a personality which is what people resort to doing when they are ______? Guess the answer?
sociopathic? Ding ding ding ding ding!!!!! But your going to try to bullshit to me about how that isn't sociopathic and that I don't understand what it really means...
How could I have possibly stopped the salvia from happening if I was unaware that it was taking place? And yes, it was fucking funny, I laughed so hard it was unbelievable, that I will admit to... Also I was 14 at the time, doesn't even matter with salvia I would probably laugh now anyway afterwards.
And I didn't see them and he didn't know I seen him doing it, he spoke about it and I noticed him do it at the bar from a distance, free drugs...
Yes the relationship with the person made it accectable, but he didn't know I had done it which means = spiked...
BTW your actually the one acting like your in the lounge “butthurt, chem lab penis pump blah blah blah”.
Your clearly not into the rave scene, spiking happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME, I've been spiked a few times, by friends and strangers, sometimes piperazines were involved, and it completely fucked my night up. I've never personally did it to anyone apart from my friend I mentioned. And I do not think it is an accectable thing to do, especially with long lasting psychs or pills of any kind.
The salvia I will stand by and say that I don't know wether or not I would stop it nowadays, depending on the circumstances. If It was in a friends house in a group and it was safe I would let it happen most likely. In public no I wouldn't. And also this is only if the person is the type who would also do something like this
And I stand by the fact that the salvia spiking was the funniest shit ever.
Other things I found hilarious in school was 1 guy get hit in the face with a bag of cow shit
Somebody getting taped up and thrown down a grass bank
I set off fireworks a few times and got suspended
Teacher got hit up the face with an apple
Teacher got soup thrown all over him
The thing is - your forgetting about group mentality, the crowd I hung with in school wasn't the best of people in fairness, and looking back at it I probably wouldn't change any of it because it in some form made me who I am today. Kids do stupid shit, get over it.
And less of your bullshit trying to make me look stupid comments such as “sword-fight me with your giant, glowing,
radioactive inflatable Internet power-penis, and I
have no further interest since I just removed all
the air from said inflatable Internet penis with a
chem-lab vacuum pump”. Yeah its funny, but this isn't TL.
What you don't realise in by doing that, what you are doing is attacking not the ideas of statements I have put forward, but you are attacking me as a personality which is what people resort to doing when they are ______? Guess the answer?
sociopathic? Ding ding ding ding ding!!!!! But your going to try to bullshit to me about how that isn't sociopathic and that I don't understand what it really means...
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kidklmx
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I'm not the type of person indulge in discussion of this sort, but dude, just no. You're trying to make said facts look good, but they're not. Ask around on this forum how fucked up Salvia can be, it may have gone over well enough, but the person could have ended up with PTSD because of it. Group mentality is not an argument, in fact it makes matters worse. If your entire group of friends turns on you like that it just scars you. Deep down you feel like your friends are not your friends anymore.
I know spiking hapens all the time, but NEVER with psychedelics. And even if you have the purest MDMA on the planet then still it's very wrong. What if the person is on MAOIs? He could actually die. A friend of mine once spiked someone with pills. I don't know what actually went wrong there, but he ended up at the first aid post of the festival.
Fact of the matter is, you stll haven't learned from what Deinonychus said. It's wrong and you should accept it, not trying to cover things up by giving an excuse or saying it was okay because he wanted it. That's something a rapist would say
I know spiking hapens all the time, but NEVER with psychedelics. And even if you have the purest MDMA on the planet then still it's very wrong. What if the person is on MAOIs? He could actually die. A friend of mine once spiked someone with pills. I don't know what actually went wrong there, but he ended up at the first aid post of the festival.
Fact of the matter is, you stll haven't learned from what Deinonychus said. It's wrong and you should accept it, not trying to cover things up by giving an excuse or saying it was okay because he wanted it. That's something a rapist would say
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Morninggloryseed
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Pffft, I wouldn't have even tried to recover from that. You got your ass handed back to you and you must be too thick to realize it.
That you are still excusing the fact that you are a slime ball speaks a lot to who you are. That people may be 'spiked all the time' at raves doesn't make it ok or justifyable. I hope if you are serious about what you talk about spiking your 'friends' on MDMA, your have your ass delt with by law enforcement.
Ok MODs, time to close this beotch.
That you are still excusing the fact that you are a slime ball speaks a lot to who you are. That people may be 'spiked all the time' at raves doesn't make it ok or justifyable. I hope if you are serious about what you talk about spiking your 'friends' on MDMA, your have your ass delt with by law enforcement.
Ok MODs, time to close this beotch.
Deinonychus
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Yeah Nolys? Not only is it wrong and sick and yes, sociopathic to enjoy watching somebody get surprise dosed with salvia, it's also gross to have taken pleasure in all the things you just mentioned (some dude getting hit with cow shit, or burned with hot soup, or hit in the face with an apple, etc). All of those examples are simply further evidence on your part that you like watching people get hurt, and that's sick, whether or not you're the one committing the violence.
As I said, I'm not interested in sword-fighting any further with those organs, so I'm done with this thread.
Hopefully it will get locked soon before further degenerating into swamp-water and toxic waste. I know others have likely reported it already and I did earlier, but I guess everybody that mods PD is sleeping? Maybe? We all have to sleep I guess, even mods! Still, I'm sure they will return and take a peek and their expression will quickly turn to 'Oh come on, who doesn't clean up after their dogs in this day and age?' and locking will ensue!
As I said, I'm not interested in sword-fighting any further with those organs, so I'm done with this thread.
Hopefully it will get locked soon before further degenerating into swamp-water and toxic waste. I know others have likely reported it already and I did earlier, but I guess everybody that mods PD is sleeping? Maybe? We all have to sleep I guess, even mods! Still, I'm sure they will return and take a peek and their expression will quickly turn to 'Oh come on, who doesn't clean up after their dogs in this day and age?' and locking will ensue!
If you knew a drug well enough to recognise it and were clear headed enough to act upon that knowledge, I guess one could enjoy the trip. But at the same time, any trip from being unknowingly slipped a psych would create a lot of fear and anxiety about what you're experiencing and how far it will go. Worrying about what the dosage is and such. If someone slipped me 25i, personally I know I would recognise it, but it would be quite confronting. 
Spiking isn't cool. Such disregard for your fellow man. Sad
Spiking isn't cool. Such disregard for your fellow man. Sad
I wish I was here earlier to close the thread, anyway better late than never.
Thanks for the replies everyone, let's remember that this is a harm reduction forum alright? Respect other people's boundaries, for heavens sake...
Thanks for the replies everyone, let's remember that this is a harm reduction forum alright? Respect other people's boundaries, for heavens sake...
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