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Is It Okay To Dose Your Mom Who Has Cancer?

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nonnihilnitoris

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My mom was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer and she is dangerously underweight. The doc put her on an antidepressant to help her gain weight, but it hasn't helped much because the diet she's on is very rigid (no sugars, no simple carbs, no animal protein...whatsoever).

She is uncomfortable with the idea of smoking pot or even eating it but is fine with my own consumption. Her main issue is with the legality. Pot, even for cancer patients, is still illegal in my state.

So, I've been thinking about adding small amounts of cannabutter...or cannabis vegetable spread...to her food when I cook for her which will hopefully encourage her to eat the gross food they are making her eat.

She is not drug tested at her place of work and spends almost every day at home anyway. Are there any foreseeable problems with this plan? I am prepared for the consequences if she finds out, but I doubt she will know better because she has never tried pot. I just want more time with my mom and I hope that this will buy me some time. The chemo med she's just started will surely *kill* her appetite.

Currently, she's on:
Lorazepam (benzo)
Mirtazepine (antidepressant)
Tarceva (chemo agent)

All responses (flames included) are appreciated.
 
1) if your mom has terminal cancer, why is she still on chemo?
2)i wouldnt spike your moms food if she isn't comfortable with it. it's not your decision to dose her, it is hers. yeah, it would help increase her appetite but she would flip out if she found out and it could cause her a good deal of anxiety regardless if she finds out. just spend time with her in her last days.
 
I read the topic description and the way you phrased "dose" made it seem like you were going to slip her some weed, big no no. If she doesn't want to do it don't force it on her. The cannabis won't really do much to help her, really. Seriously, if I had a loved one in that siuation I would rather them be "sober" so I could enjoy my final days with them as much as possible.
 
Don't dose your mom against her will, as much as it would probably help her the decision is hers and hers alone.
 
Definitely don't do it without her knowledge, especially since eating cannabis can have a much greater effect than smoking it on some people. It could really upset her if she all of a sudden "felt funny" and didn't know why.

If she agrees though, I say go for it. Although it is illegal in your state, medical cannabis is used elsewhere by cancer patients with great success. It's strictly her choice, but there's a chance marijuana could be really beneficial for increasing her appetite, among other things.
 
Maybe try to get some articles or online stuff about the benefits of cannabis for cancer patients. I would try talking her into it, but dosing her against her will is not the best idea. Talk to her. Tell her she doesn't have to smoke it, she can just use the butter or eat brownies. Ask her to just try it once, it might make her last days better and if she east more cuz of it she might last longer.

And Why isn't she eating animal protein. That's where the best enzymes and nutrients are. She should eat eggs and fatty stuff, cuz it has the most calories per service meaning that she will get more nutrients into her even if she only eat small amounts (my doctor's recommendation to me, I', 100lbs)
 
Thanks for all of your input. I have been trying to get her to try it by explaining the benefits/risks, but she was going strictly off of the doctor's advice. Now that she's feeling the side effects of the medication, I think she'll reconsider the pot issue. I talked to her today and she seemed receptive, though it probably depends on whether or not her cancer has progressed.

BTW, the chemo isn't your traditional stuff. Normally it's used in conjunction w/ traditional chemo but the docs are just trying to give her another year or so without adversely affecting her quality of life (hair loss, weakness, etc...). It's actually a targeted agent but it's still under patent so it costs $3000/month. (...big pharma assholes...) It destroys her appetite which is no good seeing as she weighs 105 and she's 5'8".
 
My mother is completely straight-laced. Once she unknowingly ate part of a cannabis brownie and had a bad trip. She had to call grandma over because she did not feel safe alone.

Don't dose your mom without permission.
 
chainer3k said:
Educate her on the benefits and risks... That's all you can do
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mrjackjones said:
My mother is completely straight-laced. Once she unknowingly ate part of a cannabis brownie and had a bad trip. She had to call grandma over because she did not feel safe alone.

Don't dose your mom without permission.
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QFT.

Look at it from your moms point of view dude. I'd be a little bit scared if I was suffering from a terminal illness and suddenly my body and mind started to feel different. It could turn out to be a horrible experience for your mum.
 
This is just my opinion, but if i had terminial cancer i would eat whatever the hell i wanted to eat and i would look into mdma studies on cancer, i seen on the tv, about people with cancer and how happy it makes people who are terminal , it changed there whole life for a few weeks after, the only thing that i would think that would be bad is the next couple days after, if your already sick. Another suggestion is thc pills, i had a freind who had cancer and he took thc pills and valuim and it made him feel alot better, he took so many oxy's that they pretty much stopped working for him, so they switched him to the thc and valuim and it did wonders for his weight.
 
No thats not alright at all. Not only is it illegal but just flat out irresponsible to dose someone unknowingly with a psychoactive substance, especially someone taking other medications that the THC will interfere with not to mention the possible psychological ramifications of the weed with her mental state. It seems like you could use some help dealing with the feelings associated with this tough situation..maybe start seeing a therapist?

Best of luck to you though, I dont envy the situation your mom or you are in.
 
No, no one should be dosed. Perhaps talk to her about making it into a butter for her, so she desn't have to feel the taboo about smoking it.
 
If you don't mind - I have a few suggestions. First, I congratulate you, on considering MMJ for your mother - you truly love her, and will go to any lengths for her. Let her know she isn't alone!

Suggestion #1: Get her some DHA, 200 mg; if you go to the pregnancy section of a major drug store, Lipil makes a Soy based one, for pregnant women! Guess what!? THAT helps with cancer, given daily!! Proven with women, too, to help retard the damn cancer (I used it on my terminally ill cat last year; the cancer vet sold me synthetic heroin at wholesale for her, so her last weeks - that became months, were happy and pain free).

Please, print out the information on the internet, for her to read...my mother's best friend died in the late '80s from breast cancer, and I helped to obtain MMJ for her - so she could eat. With the Medical Marijuana, she lasted 4 more years, and happy. She was terminal - I miss her so much. In OK, it's illegal, but no one would dare question a cancer patient! My uncle also ate it, he succumbed to brain cancer last year.

Now I'm in chronic pain, and MMJ is one of the few things that truly help me...I'd suggest it to any cancer patient, or anyone with IBS, Fibromyalgia, anything long term. It cuts down my need for expensive drugs, combined with my painkiller.

My heart goes out to you and your mom - abide by her decision, but do let her know, that she can eat the butter, or in cookies - and I VOUCH, it helps with my stomach issues! I simply sautee it in butter, or soak it a week in olive oil, and eat it.

gentle hugs to you both,

Absynthe
 
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There are two aspects to this. Firstly, as someone who has been eductated in current and future cancer therapies, I would say that weed is overkill here, the drug she has just started is relatively benign. Secondly, and most importantly, she does not want to injest the drug.

I doubt that your mum will need cannabis to stimulate her appetite. The chemo agent she's just started is one of the newer "targeted therapies", it selectively inhibits the growth of cancer cells as opposed to the traditional cytotoxic agents which target all dividing cells including gut epithelia (nausea/anorexia), bone marrow (immunosupression) and hair follicles (hair loss). Since these drugs work in a radically different manner, nausea and GIT upset should not be as severe as that associated with the traditional agents most people think of when they think of chemotherapy. Notice that she is not even prescribed an antiemetic with it.

No way would I give someone drugs without their consent. Especially if they had never taken it before. She could easily have a panic attack and genuinely believe she's dying; that is the scariest thing one can go through. Encouragement is fine but i think it would be most disrespectful to not allow her to come to her own conclusions.

In conclusion, as I mentioned above, your mum is not being prescribed the cytotoxics that destroy your gut lining, although she is underweight and being prescribed an appetite stimulant that is not working; while she will most likely be able to eat and keep down food without cannabis, it may still be of benefit to help her eat more and gain some weight. Don't drug her without her consent.
 
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