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Is it asking too much?

Thank you very much.

Sorry for going off-topic.

OP, seriously. I'll be honest. If I was you I'd freaking leave your boyfriend in no time. What he's doing is a complete lack of consideration for all the suffering you had. But I'm nobody to say anything about your relationship. If he had such a bad experience and didn't learn the lesson, I don't think he'll ever learn. If you really love him and really don't want to leave him, thuogh, then try to help him, because he'll possible get another schyzo and this time maybe he'll have the same luck.

DAMN why the wrong people have second chance? All I wanted was a second chance like him. ='(
 
Bpayne. I'm well aware that there's nothing I can do to stop him from doing anything. He proved that already by doing MDMA without my blessing. I originally told him no to everything, and look at where we are now ;). Ultimately, it is his choice. However, there are compromises in every relationship. That's because you should have a say in what each other does to an extent, especially if it has possible negative consequences. Cheating for example. Say someone doesn't want their significant other to cheat. They are not wrong for saying "Hey, I'm not okay with you cheating on me, and I won't allow you to do so to the best of my capability". However, the other person still has the ability to run off and cheat, but that doesn't really... give them a right to.

Just see how it goes, dont be hasty if you love him and he already knows your not happy about him using drugs, offer something else to do instead. it must be hard for him too if your asking him too quit something he enjoys regardless off past issues with health, hopefully he has learned not to go off the rails again next time he uses, if he does.
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I do love him. He's pretty much my life. I care about him and can't imagine what I would do if I didn't wake up to him lying next to me at night. I want to see him happy. Which is why I have pretty much just let things slide thus far, when I shouldn't have. Ultimately, I caved when I shouldn't have on giving him my "okay" to smoke weed and take MDMA, and now I'm paying for it, because it's never going to stop. It's always going to be "this is the LAST drug, I swear". Then again, you guys are right. He would have done them with or without me being okay with it. So I'm not even sure why I'm rambling.

mrdocat, I think I mentioned it already. He's been taking Abilify off and on since August.
 
mrdocat said:
I thought I had HPPD because I have afterimages, but my concern is not it, it's the psychologic side.

I honestly have no idea of what I have and the psychiatrists give me remedies that makes me worse. Today is being the worse day. I can't think well. I fell druggy. I'm desperate. Please someone help me. I think I've became crazy. I'm alone. I don't know what to do.
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What are your symptoms? Hallucinations? Paranoia? Depression? Obsessive thinking?

First you need to calm down. It will be over in a while. Maybe tomorrow, or maybe in a few weeks (like brief psychotic disorder). Untill then you have no other choice than trying to deal with it. See it as a bad trip. There are ways to ease the stress.

Then you need to call a psychiatrist/neurologist and make an appointment. If you smoke weed, you should stop smoking or smoke less untill the symptoms are not overwhelming you anymore. You should also tell your neurologist which drugs you did in the past.

If you feel you can absolutely not deal with it anymore, then go to a hospital whenever you like. Even if it's in the middle of the night. They can help you, too.
 
If I read a single post in this thread suggesting anything along the lines of "keep him" or "give him a second chance", I will be very disappointed with whomever posted it :\

Dump him and dump him now. He doesn't have a shred of intelligence or priorities if he is even considering this. Quite frankly he's a piece of shit.

...my .02¢, apologies for the harsh words. I wish you the best OP, you deserve much better <3

-d_9
 
Delta, the thing is, it's always more complicated than that. I again want to stress that he does so much for me. He's always paying for things (like, literally, for the most part, he keeps us afloat since I make very little from my job), lets me drive his car, puts up with a lot of my weird tantrums, is such a sweetheart when I'm feeling like shit...

It's just this one thing. I mean, we both have problems and issues. There are things I do that I'm sure drive him batshit crazy. I'm not the perfect girlfriend. I'm guilty of things too.

I'm not trying to make excuses for him by any means... but I don't want to put myself on a pedestal and have everyone assume the worst of him and the best of me, because that's not fair either. After all, this is only my side of the story.
 
I understand, and to be fair I read very little of your original post. I thought I had the gist of it(I may not have it seems), so I assumed my response was appropriate. I apologize for this.

However, I still maintain this is extremely petty on his part and the fact that he is not able or willing to make this choice demonstrates nothing more than a clear sign of immaturity and a lack of priorities.
 
I don't think psychedelics will necessarily cause psychotic episodes (other than bad trips) in him again. It depends on the person and the circumstances. In a therapeutic environment with a psychologist the psychedelic experience could be of value for him. Also some people with psychedelic experience claim that the bad trip actually taught them something. Maybe that is what your friend finds interesting.

When was the last time he did psychedelics? Doing it regularly will more probably cause negative long-term consequences than doing it once a year.
Though if he isn't the borderline retard some in this threat think he is, he might actually figure out himself when it's too much. I doubt he wants to repeat his past again.

I also had schizophrenic symptoms many years ago, so I stopped using psychedelics. Then after a few years I did psychedelics again. It didn't have any negative long-term consequences. I'm not a schizophrenic though, just a schizoid.
 
The last time he did them was in April of last year. And he wasn't a frequent user. The last time he's done LSD before that was almost three years ago, and he had a really messed up time then too.

Honestly, it's not the substance I'm worried about. I'm aware shrooms are "natural" and LSD is less harmful than aspirin. It's the fact that they screw with your head. Even if it's all mental. The mentality is the key that makes all the difference. It's still going to completely distort his thinking and create symptoms akin to his schizophrenia. It's already been proven that he doesn't react well with psychedellics, and that they out of anything else that he consumed were able to send him into an episode. MDMA created a few symptoms, but nothing near as close. MDMA doesn't even play too hard on your dopamine receptors, so quite technically, it's no surprise it wasn't particularly harmful to him (though I'm aware it still really could be). MDMA is not as bad as he could get. I really do believe the Psycs are worse. If he were to take something like Meth or Cocaine that focuses on dopamine etc. then yeah, there'd be a huge chance with those too, which I also mentioned I was nervous about.
 
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Lol, OP, you sound like an awesome girlfriend, and no it sounds completely reasonable to ask your boyfriend to stay in this reality.
 
darling i've only read your original post and none of the three pages afterwards, however...

Wadsworth said:
How do I get him to take me seriously?
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you're probably not going to be the one that convinces him not to trip anymore... stick with him, talk to him about it, but don't try to influence him in either direction. you guys are walking through life together, one of you isn't leading the other.

love life<3

p.s. i was probably diagnosably schizophrenic for a hot minute there... i had to figure out that i really did enjoy psychedelics more than my violent, psychotic ex. she went on to another tumultuous relationship or two after she left me, and i went back to GRACE. :)

p.p.s. she was projecting her own self-loathing (over her substance use issues) onto me
 
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Delta like wad said it's not like this. I think I'm in a really similar situation to his boyfriend. I have a girlfriend and I, too, used LSD and got some weird fucking mental problem that's fucking my life. I don't know if it's the same problem, but, because of MY mistake my girlfriend is having to suffer because his boyfriend from a moment to another turned into a sluggish retard with no libido. I think the difference is that I will never ever even think in touching another drug again. But her boyfriend managed to get better, something I don't know if I will. So maybe maybe Wad's situation is even better than my girlfriend's and yet my girlfriend didn't leave me, because she knows I love her, because she knows that, besides that BIG mistake, I am a good person, and that I'll do anything to become my old self again, for her.

Things are not so simple when there's love involved.

Hoping the best for you and your bf, Wad.
Peace.
 
delta_9 said:
I understand, and to be fair I read very little of your original post. I thought I had the gist of it(I may not have it seems), so I assumed my response was appropriate. I apologize for this.

However, I still maintain this is extremely petty on his part and the fact that he is not able or willing to make this choice demonstrates nothing more than a clear sign of immaturity and a lack of priorities.
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holy smokes. this thread is hot. I'd have to read a novel worth of posts if i wanted to participate.

It's funny that a bluelighter found a related post on another thread though. Someone linked this thread to it too. Shit is gonna hit the fan.

This all reminds me of a play I once saw. Even though she knew how important it was that she take them, the girl was constantly lulled off her meds by her attraction to the psychotic state. Even though the boyfriend knew she was essentially hopelessly mentally ill, he could not break up with her because she was a dime with personality. You know? Like the Sirens and the sailors? It was sad. I can't remember what it was called. good stuff though.

the first replies to both of these threads are good stuff too. here, she says she loves this boy, never felt this strongly before, the is the only person she has ever been able to see her self with long term, but he has this crippling mental illness he insists on provoking. first reply:
No Brainer.
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On that other board, he describes a history of mental illness and a horrible, horrible situation recently brought on by taking a serotonin based hallucinogen. first reply:
Speaking from my own experience, I'd say that shrooms are probably fine and may even be good for your overall mental health.
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^rocknroll.


well, sounds like a complicated situation, OP. hope things work out. dont get too influenced concerning important life decisions by message board posters talking up the good drama.
 
The kid sees drugs as the only avenue to recreation in his life, and so the idea of going without is unthinkable to him. If that doesn't change, any manner of argument/bribery/threat is going to fail.

I wouldn't worry about cannabis, though. If anything, it's antipsychotic. MDMA is more concerning in a schizophrenic than any other psychedelic, though, due to it's DA releasing properties; it'd be safer to party on 2C-I or 2C-C.
 
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Wadsworth said:
Besides... I get the gist of it without even needing to read it.
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do you even really give a fuck about this dude? i would've at least read the damn post....

anyway, this guy OBVIOUSLY got overmedicated on antipsychotics after his bad trip. he should have just had a few days in the drunk tank in my humble opinion... :)
 
opinions are like assholes.
listen up and think.
everybody´s got one.
and they all fucking stink.
 
Fagott said:
opinions are like assholes.
listen up and think.
everybody´s got one.
and they all fucking stink.
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coming down from a trip as epic as an unplanned freedom run is probably hard to do with a head full of seroquel.

the dude obviously shouldn't have done this, but just because he had a bad trip once doesn't mean it will happen in the future. i feel bad for the guy, if you read that other thread he SERIOUSLY thinks there's a problem with himself.

the doctors probably diagnosed him as schizophrenic while his head was full of antipsychotics. i am assuming here that he wasn't actually violent during the arrest, in which case any drugs as an attempt to "bring down the trip" were a pretty poor medical decision.

the whole situation is fucked tbh. i <3 that dude though. and i'm pretty sure that if he does low doses of shrooms while hanging out with wadsworth once in awhile then things probably won't get out of hand...

if you don't want to trip though wadsworth, then don't... but ya shouldn't stop him from doing reasonable dosages of <3 drugs in your company.
 
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