Cocaine Is intranasal use of cocaine really the best?

[matiseli]

I think it's terribly unreliable...

The nose should not be too wet or too dry.

You must not inhale the substance so strongly that it goes down your nose and into your throat. (People think that "drip" they feel in their throat is good news, but it actually means the stuff didn't stick in their nose - so it is then poorly absorbed through the stomach)

Etc.

Why don't people just apply the powder to their gums?

Because of saliva, the powder quickly runs into your mouth, but that doesn't matter: Until you swallow the saliva, the substance is absorbed through your tissue (gums, tongue).

Am I wrong?

PS: I tried intranasal use - I felt the substance in my throat, the effect was zero ... On the other hand, I then tried to apply a smaller amount to my gums - again, no psychological effect. So it's quite possible that I need a larger dose than the average person. Because the same dose from the same package worked for the other person

 

[placebonaut]

Cocaine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bioavailability

By mouth: 33%[10]
Insufflation: 60[11]–80%[12]
Nasal spray: 25[13]–43%[10]

Iv is 100% IIRC and smoking is 90%, gums is less than insufflation, with studies pointing to 33% by mouth which I take to read gums or swallowed but others may have a better view

so snorting it is simply much more pragmatic, you can help with your nose being too wet/dry by using a saline spray before (and after use) use to clear and moisten, and/or blow your nose!

as for the drip your goal is not to get 1! don't snort so hard, smaller doses more frequently is better, and use both nostrils.

 

[matiseli]

Cocaine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bioavailability

By mouth: 33%[10]
Insufflation: 60[11]–80%[12]
Nasal spray: 25[13]–43%[10]

Iv is 100% IIRC and smoking is 90%, gums is less than insufflation, with studies pointing to 33% by mouth which I take to read gums or swallowed but others may have a better view

so snorting it is simply much more pragmatic, you can help with your nose being too wet/dry by using a saline spray before (and after use) use to clear and moisten, and/or blow your nose!

as for the drip your goal is not to get 1! don't snort so hard, smaller doses more frequently is better, and use both nostrils.

Chat gpt told me that bioavailability through the gums is higher than when drinking/swallowing normally ... I think it's similar to kanna: users hold the kanna powder under their tongue for 30 minutes, because then it's much more effective than when swalloved

 

[danosaurous22]

If you ask me it's a case of "dosage makes the poison". Getting more of a drug or delivering it as efficiently as possible to your brain does not necessarily make for a better ROA. Snorting is good because it seriously limits cocaine's potential to fuck your shit up. Snorting just gets frustrating, because you're getting a taste of the high it could bring but you're messing up your nose and eventually it doesn't even feel like it's doing anything aside from get you edgier and in a worse mood with a shitty speedy high compared to the euphoria of the first bit of a session. It's still insanely compulsive and gets you messed up but you just need to do way more work to get high and even huge lines still won't be delivering it like IV or smoking would.

IV and smoking from what I know have limitless potential to scramble your brain over and over again, again with diminishing euphoria but psychosis is just so easy to slip into because you can easily do huge fucking doses that would require an ungodly amount of insufflation to even come close to.

Boofing is the best of both worlds to me because the rush is longer and won't hit as fast and disappear as fast as those other ROAs, and while it undoubtably fucks you up with big doses it's more of a high that you ride for a couple hours rather than something that you are chasing every ten minutes. But once again, the efficiency of boofing makes it way more dangerous than snorting it. You could stumble into huge fucking doses that will basically have you spun for hours, and IME the paranoia and psychosis from this ROA is a billion times worse than snorting. Never had paranoia problems snorting it but boofing it can lead to basically waking nightmares where you have to just wait the peak out in complete terror, often with no compulsion to re dose for at least an hour or so while you put your brain back together.

Basically IMO cocaine as a drug is way too fucking powerful if you use the more efficient and powerful ROAs. There are aspects to it that I never even got close to even while snorting mounds of it, particularly the brutal paranoia and psychosis but also the sexual obsession it can lead to in a binge. Never really saw that side of it snorting it but with other ROAs you just get so fucking horny and spun that you end up clinging to sex as basically the only thing you care to do when you're that fucked up. Trying to do anything else feels trivial because you know how good sex would feel once the rush hits, no limit to the depravity that cycle brings about. I think snorting it is the best way to use it if you want to function in society and not lose your entire mind every time you binge. Snorting is also somewhat social and always gets me thinking super "deep" about stuff whereas getting a huge hit in the other ROAs basically just wipes my brain clean and I enter a world where cocaine and pleasure are the only things that matter and should be pursued relentlessly at all costs, no matter how much time you waste or money you blow. It's a really powerful and astounding high every time but it literally hijacks my entire brain until I finally face the comedown and sleep for two days. Just a horrible experience yet an exhilarating rush, and my brain can't ever equate those two things no matter how many times I fuck myself over. When I'm high as fuck I hate it and when I'm not high as fuck I'm waiting patiently for a chance to get high as fuck. As soon as I notice the rush I'm starting to get frustrated at the fact that it's going away, it's not even a few minutes of pleasure it's more like a few moments. Rant over I just thought I'd defend more lightweight and unreliable ways of doing these drugs, it's better and honestly more cost effective than getting hooked on doing many many doses in one perfectly efficient go.

 

[opiatekrzy]

Cocaine is a dangerous drug that is heavily cardiotoxic. Shooting it carries a high death risk. Many Long term crackheads have needed pace makers for their heart.
It's a dirty stimulant that is incredibly short acting and I highly am against it

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

I think it's terribly unreliable...

The nose should not be too wet or too dry.

You must not inhale the substance so strongly that it goes down your nose and into your throat. (People think that "drip" they feel in their throat is good news, but it actually means the stuff didn't stick in their nose - so it is then poorly absorbed through the stomach)

Etc.

Why don't people just apply the powder to their gums?

Because of saliva, the powder quickly runs into your mouth, but that doesn't matter: Until you swallow the saliva, the substance is absorbed through your tissue (gums, tongue).

Am I wrong?

PS: I tried intranasal use - I felt the substance in my throat, the effect was zero ... On the other hand, I then tried to apply a smaller amount to my gums - again, no psychological effect. So it's quite possible that I need a larger dose than the average person. Because the same dose from the same package worked for the other person

It's NEVER recommend to somebody who doesn't inject to inject, but objectively doing Coke that way is significantly better. It lasts three times as long, hits harder and has a more euphoric rush.

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

It's NEVER recommend to somebody who doesn't inject to inject, but objectively doing Coke that way is significantly better. It lasts three times as long, hits harder and has a more euphoric rush.

I've never shot cocaine (or anything) but I don't think it really lasts 3 times longer through that ROA. At least not in my experience of being around people shooting it.

Every time I've seen someone bring a needle out when cocaine was involved they were poking themselves every 5 minutes. They'd do one shot. Get the rush and after a few minutes they'd already be prepping the next shot. The only limiting factor in dosing seemed to be the inability to register. The close friend I had that I watched shoot cocaine one night did most of an entire gram to himself in the span of about 2 hours or so. He sat in my chair taking shot after shot until the bag was gone.

So it may last longer but that rush seems to be too tempting not to continue chasing.

That guy went hard with everything and would shoot up anything. I'd seen him shoot up heroin, various pharma opioids, MXE, and various other research chemicals over the years. I wasn't a fan of him using the needle but I didn't want him hiding it. At least when he was in the room I could keep an eye on him. That night he was on cocaine was by far the worse I ever seen him with the needle. Guy was poking himself all over because his veins were already in poor condition. He slipped out a bunch of times on one shot, syringe was full of his own blood after he'd slipped out multiple times in different places. He broke the needle off of the syringe, dropped his pants, bent over right in front of everyone and shoved it up his ass. Boofed it then tossed the syringe in the garbage. Grabbed a fresh one and went straight to prepping another shot.

After seeing that the thought of shooting up cocaine seemed like a horrible idea to me. The needle itself isn't the greatest idea. But at least when he was shooting up opioids and stuff like MXE he wasn't poking himself every 2 minutes. He'd do his shot and pass out for several hours. The only other time I saw him poking himself that often was when I gifted him some dilaudid tablets. But even those he could hold off 15+ minutes between. With the cocaine he couldn't control himself at all.

 

[dimlocator]

It's NEVER recommend to somebody who doesn't inject to inject, but objectively doing Coke that way is significantly better. It lasts three times as long, hits harder and has a more euphoric rush.

3 times as long? huh? its like 3 times as short!! a ringer will last me like 2 minutes if lucky. Im stimulated for maybe 45 minutes i guess but not consistently and the rush is what i always end up chasing

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

I've never shot cocaine (or anything) but I don't think it really lasts 3 times longer through that ROA. At least not in my experience of being around people shooting it.

Every time I've seen someone bring a needle out when cocaine was involved they were poking themselves every 5 minutes. They'd do one shot. Get the rush and after a few minutes they'd already be prepping the next shot. The only limiting factor in dosing seemed to be the inability to register. The close friend I had that I watched shoot cocaine one night did most of an entire gram to himself in the span of about 2 hours or so. He sat in my chair taking shot after shot until the bag was gone.

So it may last longer but that rush seems to be too tempting not to continue chasing.

That guy went hard with everything and would shoot up anything. I'd seen him shoot up heroin, various pharma opioids, MXE, and various other research chemicals over the years. I wasn't a fan of him using the needle but I didn't want him hiding it. At least when he was in the room I could keep an eye on him. That night he was on cocaine was by far the worse I ever seen him with the needle. Guy was poking himself all over because his veins were already in poor condition. He slipped out a bunch of times on one shot, syringe was full of his own blood after he'd slipped out multiple times in different places. He broke the needle off of the syringe, dropped his pants, bent over right in front of everyone and shoved it up his ass. Boofed it then tossed the syringe in the garbage. Grabbed a fresh one and went straight to prepping another shot.

After seeing that the thought of shooting up cocaine seemed like a horrible idea to me. The needle itself isn't the greatest idea. But at least when he was shooting up opioids and stuff like MXE he wasn't poking himself every 2 minutes. He'd do his shot and pass out for several hours. The only other time I saw him poking himself that often was when I gifted him some dilaudid tablets. But even those he could hold off 15+ minutes between. With the cocaine he couldn't control himself at all.

Some people feel the need to compulsively redose with certain drugs. I think Coke may be one.
It does, though. On average, intranasal Cocaine lasts ~20 minutes, while IV Cocaine lasts ~60 minutes

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

3 times as long? huh? its like 3 times as short!! a ringer will last me like 2 minutes if lucky. Im stimulated for maybe 45 minutes i guess but not consistently and the rush is what i always end up chasing

IDK, it's what I've read and seems to be my experience, too.
Maybe the quality of the coke comes into play?

 

[CalicoCatLover]

I tried rubbing it on my eyes, but the best way is indeed the nostril

 

[placebonaut]

I tried rubbing it on my eyes, but the best way is indeed the nostril

wasn't there something somewhere about cocaine drops into eyes, maybe a medical numbing thing.

not sure what the bioavailability of eyeballs is

 

[Psychonauticunt]

No, it's the second worst way to do it. Only dosing orally is more wasteful.

 

[Cuncefuct]

Chat gpt told me that bioavailability through the gums is higher than when drinking/swallowing normally ... I think it's similar to kanna: users hold the kanna powder under their tongue for 30 minutes, because then it's much more effective than when swalloved

Please please PLEEEAAASE. Don't use a basic Learning Language Model for medical and drug related advice. I'm not trying to shame you for using chat GPT, but I do want you to double and triple check your information from reputable sources other than GPT. It could pull info from anywhere on the internet without knowing how to fact check itself. Current "AI" is just artificial, but not intelligent. It's nothing more than a sycophantic language model. If you ask a question a certain way, it will tell you whatever you want to hear based on your previous interactions. Chat GPT is not a reliable source, nor is it even a search engine. LLM'S like GPT have already killed a bunch of people. It has fueled peoples peoples delusions and paranoid thinking, it encouraged users to end their own lives (Even giving a teenager specific instructions on what suicide method would leave the most "attractive" and "romantic" corpse). And there's a lot more deaths attributed to the lack of safety regulations and accountability. This worries me especially when it comes to medical advice. When researching for something pretty ordinary and unrelated, like quotes of famous historical figure. It often pulls "quotes" from purely fictional stories that featured fictitious & bastardised versions of real historically significant people. Che Guevara has had quotes purely made up from a single fiction book. Now it's leaking its way into day to day life. I've heard people using these made up quotes to prove a point they were making in and argument or discussion. Chat GPT I a distraction from learning how to be media literate. It's easier to get away with atrocities when there's so much (mostly) deliberate diversions from the truth. It's manufactured distortions of how we consume and spread information.

 

[Dextro .45]

I read a medical journal of Cocaine users all in 3 categories……main ROA’s …..snorting cocke, injecting IV, and smoking freebase Cocaine….

Smokable freebase produced the most rapid and euphoric ROA ….followed by IV injection

Cocaine HCL is obviously very water soluable and I wet my nasal passage with a Q-Tip while snorting softly enough to have the drug in nasal mucosa mainly possibly aiding in absorption

IV injection also several times with clean tools “bell ringer” significantly increased danger/adverse reaction liability but with known Cocaine batch potency and individual tolerance, dosage gradually increased slowly until acceptable euphoric effects without approaching worrisome cardiovascular side effects

Never smoked freebase but I’d probably try……back in the day

Clean your Cocane with double wash and insulation is obviously most common and probably the safest meathod

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

I think it's terribly unreliable...

The nose should not be too wet or too dry.

You must not inhale the substance so strongly that it goes down your nose and into your throat. (People think that "drip" they feel in their throat is good news, but it actually means the stuff didn't stick in their nose - so it is then poorly absorbed through the stomach)

Etc.

Why don't people just apply the powder to their gums?

Because of saliva, the powder quickly runs into your mouth, but that doesn't matter: Until you swallow the saliva, the substance is absorbed through your tissue (gums, tongue).

Am I wrong?

PS: I tried intranasal use - I felt the substance in my throat, the effect was zero ... On the other hand, I then tried to apply a smaller amount to my gums - again, no psychological effect. So it's quite possible that I need a larger dose than the average person. Because the same dose from the same package worked for the other person

Definitely not.
I'd put IV use as best, followed by smoking it as crack and intrasal coke third.
Just giveing feedback based on personal experience; I am NOT advising anyone to start injecting or smoking it if they don't already.

 

[drewbocop]

Other than IV, I sure never found a better way as a little menace running the streets back in the day. And we did a lot of fucking good blow every weekend. Cocaethylene would have made my heart explode by now had I not immediately stopped as a young gun. It's all in the technique, baby.

 

[opiatekrzy]

Other than IV, I sure never found a better way as a little menace running the streets back in the day. And we did a lot of fucking good blow every weekend. Cocaethylene would have made my heart explode by now had I not immediately stopped as a young gun. It's all in the technique, baby.

I agree with you 100%> cocaine is a very cardiotoxic drug and is horrible for your heart. Most addicts do not go beyond 50 if a daily cocaine user.

 

[drewbocop]

I agree with you 100%> cocaine is a very cardiotoxic drug and is horrible for your heart. Most addicts do not go beyond 50 if a daily cocaine user.

I went and lived with my dad back in the late 2000s early 2010s after not seeing him for a good few years. Turns out, he had a homeless stint where he traveled with a carnival as the lead ride """engineer""" (lol), and the carnies got him to try crack. Well, he liked it. Guess he was drinking booze and smoking crack basically non stop for a while, and when I met up with him, he looked like his age about doubled. Now he's in his mid 70s and still drinking and smoking (cigarettes) like a maniac. I don't know how he's alive. He looks like dogshit though, and the coke really seemed to get that ball rolling fast. Shame. I do love me some white.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Please please PLEEEAAASE. Don't use a basic Learning Language Model for medical and drug related advice.

This should be emphasized again. I will use google a.i for quick statistics now and than -- even than I like to note it came from google a.i and was just the quickest way to possibly throw a # back....

Snorting cocaine will leave my nose plugged for a week --- the buzz is like a half hour. Therefor I dont partake. Well Id take up a proper speedball but that aint gunna land on my table lol Did have a friend that took cocaine sublingually (under tongue) and swore it worked alright -- he was a bit of an oddball though. (RIP)