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is homosexuality a choice?

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absolute bollocks! and just what i expected, the "straw man"... its just another cheap "out" that the gays use when there flimsy baseless argument ends.
No, it's called logic and reasoning. You made up some truly stupid shit that you pretended I was arguing to make it easier for you to dodge the fucking point. But okay, let's deconstruct it then shall we?
say all the state homes were run by gays. would that satisfy you ? because then, obviously, there would be no harm done to the children, simply because gays can do no wrong. what you are stating is that gays are free of any kind of that behaviour.
Where did I state or imply that? Gay people are human beings just like everyone else. You have your decent, kind and generous ones, to those who are anti-social, unpleasant and criminally dangerous. It just seems like for you "gay" is synonymous with "bad," when an individual's character is independent of their sexual orientation.
there ALL loving homes, right ? and of course, the majority of hetero couples are inherently violent.
Again, where did I say or imply that? The overwhelming majority of heterosexual households I've come across in my life have been loving and more than suitable for raising children. The problem is you have it in your mind that for orphans the alternative to being adopted by gay parents is that they'll straight away be picked up by a heterosexual couple, when in reality they aren't adopted by ANYONE. NO-ONE. As in they have NO PARENTS. The worldwide supply of orphans *greatly* outweighs the demand. It's an extraordinarily sad reality of the world we live in. You want to know about broken childhoods? Ask someone who grew up in the foster care system, where they were constantly shifted around and never really rooted into a home, and ask for yourself if they felt blessed that their temporary foster parents were heterosexual. Consider that gay people are wanting to adopt kids that no-one else wants. That they first have to demonstrate that they have the means and motivation to love and care for a child. Do you really think an orphan, if faced with the prospect of the foster care system or having two mums or two dads, is going to care about their parents' sexuality??
i guess the differance is, hetero people dont center thier lives around thier sexuality like gays do(pride?)
Nice generalisation there. It's very well known that gay parents avoid the gay scene. You might see some for pride but it's a small minority.
so they dont open CHILDREN up to sexual indoctrination
Because heaven forbid they teach them to judge others based on their character and not on their sexual orientation.


its yet another form of homophobia in reverse. well done. you make yourself look more discrminitive by the post and it holds forth my argument that gays are even more phobic and or discriminitive than normal people.
HAHAHA!!! Erm, no. Don't hold me accountable for your unsophisticated thinking, poor reasoning, lousy analytical skills, and suggest I have some stupid vendetta against straight people. It's all in your dumb fucking head. (Irony bolded.:p)
have i tried being a normal person in gay social circles ? believe it or not, yes. and that when i lost respect for them, because unless they though that they could "turn" me, they dont want you to hang around.
1. I really do doubt the veracity of that story.
2. So you judge all gays worldwide based on your miniscule experience of a handful of them, and extrapolate that they'll all behave the same way? And lesbians too? Lovely work there.
3. Nice construction of yourself as a "normal" who is venturing in to hang with the weird misfits. I'm sure they felt honoured that someone as powerful and normal as you actually reached down to little ol'lowly them.


And I will add that everything you write, right down to the crass way you write it, comes across anti-gay and homophobic. So don't cry and get all upset when people point out to you that you're a god damned bigot because it's exactly what you are. Own it. It's you.
 
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think of the word "marriage"... thats two pieces of differing shapes or forms coming together. like in carpentry. male and female joints. two male joints dont fit, same for two female joints. in regards to "rights", they arent "rights" anyway, they are legalities.

I've got news for you, people are not and will never be pieces of carpentry, so comparing the two is illogical. And yes my rights are in fact my "rights". I want the same rights that you enjoy, by having access to the laws, and "legalities" you enjoy.


don't bullshit me that gays get treated any differantly. all they have to do is sign a piece of paper to say that they leave thier money to someone else. share your super, your house, whatever.

Gays aren't treated differently?! How the hell would you know anyway, as you've stated your a proud heterosexual who things that It actually astounds me that you had the arrogance to say that. So when I'm denied the right to visit my partner in the hospital, I'm not being treated differently? When I'm restricted from giving blood, I'm not being treated differently? When I'm denied access to the legal protections of marriage, that straight couples enjoy, I'm not being treated differently?

anyway, im not beating my head in to a brick wall on that one. as for this bullshit that the child may end up better off, you may be able to kid yourself easy, but...

lets look at homes where the mother or father are absent. its caused a lot of dis-enfranchised young. imagine when the child gets to the age to form thier own opinions, growing out of the unconditional love age and finds that they have been cheated outright by 2 selfish people who have decided that they should miss out on either father or motherhood.

in generations to come, this will manifest itself socially in a way which will cause MAJOR discord. dont believe me ? just watch... hopefully, i wont be around to see the fall out.

Comparing single mothers or fathers to two committed people of the same-sex in a stable long term relationship also doesn't work. It's bullshit. Regardless of who children are parented by, as long as they receive love and stability, I'm pretty sure having some form of parent is better than living in a state-run foster home or orphanage.
 
Hey WESMDOW, forget all those people who think u are being prejudice against gay's be proud u are straight and dont let them get into your head. And I beleive that being gay is not a choice, unless u just bang members of the same gender for fun. I know a couple gay people and it is definitly not a choice, they struggle with it greatly and would do most anything to be "normal." And to people who will bash me due to my post, yep I am kinda prejudice against gays, to bad for u, but as long as they dont hit on me,........well no that actually would be kinda flattering, but as long as they are not shaking a cock in my face I am perfectly fine with them being gay.
 
When I'm restricted from giving blood, I'm not being treated differently?

Is this a bad thing??? I've seen people who give blood literally wreck people's veins.

Think of it as they're giving you a free pass in life from having to do something which isn't worth it in the first place. :)

Besides, remember injecting drug users (of all sexual orientations) can't give blood either. Do we feel discriminated against? I don't.
 
^ actually, as a regular blood donor, i've never been asked my sexual preference. i've been asked if i have sex with hookers, or had sex with someone that might be AIDS or HIV+, but never whether or not i'm gay. :) and a "free pass"?! donating blood is so rewarding. <3

and yeah, i wouldn't get too upset over firebrand. he sounds like a troll with a lot of baseless reasoning.
 
[QUOTE and yeah, i wouldn't get too upset over firebrand. he sounds like a troll with a lot of baseless reasoning.[/QUOTE]

reasoning with gays is much like trying to reason with someone who is under the influence of alcohol.

just doesnt happen... they are under the influence of thier own filter which they see everything through. drunk on thier own crusade.
 
[QUOTE and yeah, i wouldn't get too upset over firebrand. he sounds like a troll with a lot of baseless reasoning.

"reasoning with gays is much like trying to reason with someone who is under the influence of alcohol.

just doesnt happen... they are under the influence of thier own filter which they see everything through. drunk on thier own crusade."



why quote something if you're only going to prove its point?

are you retarded?:)
 
"reasoning with gays is much like trying to reason with someone who is under the influence of alcohol.

just doesnt happen... they are under the influence of thier own filter which they see everything through. drunk on thier own crusade."



why quote something if you're only going to prove its point?

are you retarded?:)

dont tell me... your gay.
 
many animals display bisexual behavior. Not pair bonding, and certainly not exclusive homosexual behavior. (except for one pair of penguins...in a zoo.)


hey nobody is judging you man. Whatever gets you goin8)


yes that is what has always turned me on, two males animals fucking eachother. How erotic!
Hey no body is judging you man. Get in where you fit in:d:d:d:d
 
Yes there's a factor of will to act on your sexuality but this does not mean that your sexuality is somehow a personal choice or that you can pick, choose, and change your sexuality.

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I always thought this was an interesting response. To me this always read "Trust me; You're bi-sexual but you're just choosing not to act on it."
 
Do you think you could ask Santa for a brand new amicable personality?

Save that, a dictionary and a book on proper grammar and punctuation wouldn't go astray.

i see, your still under 10 years of age. shit, lefto`s are starting young nowadays.
 
You're not saying anything substantive for me to respond to. It's a petty tit for tat exchange. I will say that it is impossible to take you seriously when you write like someone in primary/grade school. You might fancy yourself as a reasonable, clear thinking individual, but if you don't even have a handle on basic english and know the difference between "you're" and "your", when it is appropriate to use apostrophes, or how to spell "their," then why should people listen to what you have to say on science and ethics?
 
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