Is buying drugs immoral?

[skoat]

Prohibition fucks everyone. Lack of information breeds ignorance.

And finally, nothing as far-reaching and grassrooted as drug-trafficking can be too linear. It isn't as simple as some of you make it out to sound.

 

[xanthine]

There is no such thing as universal morals.

 

[DemonXstreeM]

Prohibition fucks everyone. Lack of information breeds ignorance.

And finally, nothing as far-reaching and grassrooted as drug-trafficking can be too linear. It isn't as simple as some of you make it out to sound.

Yes.... Prohibition is the key.

If prohibition was not in place than the black market would not survive. It is not my choice to put that which I may into by body that is the problem. It is the government that believes its in there rite to dictate that which I consume.

 

[Astaroth]

EDIT: first part removed... oops didn't realise there were 3 pages...



To the OP: Judging by your posts the thread was started having already made a decision and you're not willing to listen to what others have to say unless it doesn't match your own idea. Why bother posting at all?

 

[josepeskoeffles]

Too bad.

Dog eat dog. Not everything in this world is like a candy-kid's idea of how the world would be on drugs.

Actually, nothing is like that.

I'm sorry, but I', not going to distract anyone from this anymore.

America does it because we CAN. If it's wrong , I'm sorry...would you like a tissue?

If that's your defence then why worry about the morality of buying drugs? That answer could come from any coke baron, arms dealer or otherwise morally bankrupt individual asked how does he sleep at night.

As for the question, cocaine would be my vote. It hurts people on our soil and at its source, and i don't really think its benefits justify the harm it causes (i mean socially, not for an individual). It funds serious organised crime everywhere and it is a scourge to the public. Also heroin as its proceeds go to people who as far as i can see must be utterly lacking morals, and perpetuates the cycle of ecstasy/misery and alienates the user from society (but hey if thats what they want. I'm not condemning the user here). In both these drugs i resent the fact that dealers are rich, even succesful, while the users are (often. Well 'usually' with heroin) living barely within their means, especially with heroin which can really rob people of a healthy lifestyle.. whatever that is.

I know cocaine dealers, as i'm sure we all do, who have gotten RICH keeping people who were once their good friends at subsistence levels. The way i see it, they are skimming off almost every spare penny these people earn through hard work, just to provide what is pretty much just an expensive social lubricant. It's exploitation.

 

[josepeskoeffles]

Sorry Theodore just noticed that wasn't your post anyway.. Don't know how i didn't see that a minute ago

 

[josepeskoeffles]

Oh and furthermore i don't buy the pot funds terrorism bollucks. Possibly heroin though, but how much skunk comes from bloody afganistan and the rest?! The vast majority is made on our own soil and our hash (uk - aka squalid) is all from morroco as far as i know.

 

[rangrz]

I dont give a damn who it supports. I was at the pointy end of the money from opiumt. You better bet opium goes to support the taliban. (I mean, otherwise, what where them acres upon acres of opium poppies I walked though for) At the same time, other people, anti taliban people, also grow and sell opium. They use that money to prop up the legitmate goverment, to feed their families, and to make a better life for them selves, without the taliban.

The real lack of morals are the people who do the evil. You are not beheading an 8 year old girl for not wearing a burka when you buy a bag of H, that is Abdul Muhammed Al-bumfuck doing it, and he would do it if you got that bag or not.

and I'll kill them regardless of them having new Russian made AK, or a shitty chinese made AK. Since their skill level and training doesnt seem to change regardless of money, and no matter how much smack you shoot, they aint gonna be buying Su-30MKI's and T-90's

tl;dr people who do evil are evil, and would do it regardless of how they got the money for it.

 

[josepeskoeffles]

Oh yeah i agree but what's worse columbian drug gangs or islamic extremists? Either way money may end up going to people committing horrific acts. For the record though the taliban itself actually outlawed poppy growing which is why the export has increased so much since they were toppled

 

[inotocracy]

About as immoral as buying tylenol, slightly more illegal though

 

[psychedelic nod]

i read most of this thread and i have to agree that buying drugs is no less moral than buying jeans made by young children in third world countries
walmart is a greater evil than my neighborhood pot dealer

 

[dankstersauce]

i read most of this thread and i have to agree that buying drugs is no less moral than buying jeans made by young children in third world countries
walmart is a greater evil than my neighborhood pot dealer

^^^word.

considering my local dealers most of them are just doing it as a part time job. Maybe like in some of the cases the money goes to some shady asshole but for the most part it's just paying someone's bills and putting food on the table and paying for them to re-up. I don't feel bad about it maybe i'm just jaded and don't care too much.

my money probably goes to worse places/people for things i don't even think about like food and clothes.

 

[blindedbythelight]

to answer your first question about where our money goes, im sure its spent on cars, houses, guns, jewelry, hats, shoes, boats, vacations, and probably more drugs.

 

[socko]

Where does our money go? Who are we funding?

Is buying drugs immoral because of the possibility of who we are ultimately funding?


No "Blah blah blah we should legalize so this won't happen man!" crap. That's not the world we live in.

And you actually believe prohibition and the war-on-drugs is a good thing and that it's working? What world do you live in? Ending the prohibition is the only solution.

I'm heavily inclined to think that buying certain drugs is completely immoral because the money may be funding evil sources, such as socialist groups and islamic terrorists.

Who do you think is funded by the money you spend every time you buy gas to put in your car? Where do you think Osama bin Ladin's billions originally came from? For black market drugs, it's very hard to find out who gets the money and how it's spent. For all you know, the money could be going to feed a peasant coca farming family in south america just as easily as it could be supporting a brutal paramilitary group (as it did when Senator Oliver North was trafficking cocaine and using the money to support the blood-thirsty Nicaraguan contras in order to overthrow a democratically elected government).

I'd just like to know if anyone knows exactly who is making money off the illegal drug trade, and does that impact your drug use? If the money is going somewhere it shouldn't, I may consider quitting. I've gone too long simply blanking that fact out. I don't mind paying for drug gangs to kill each other, but I do find if this is going to a questionable Mosque in Pakistan or to socialist Pro-Chavez groups in Venezuela.

With legalization, we would see exactly who gets the drug money, and we'd have some control over it by being able to choose something like cocaine produced by a peaceful peruvian coca farmer instead of some south american terrorist army. I'd rather see my money go to a non-violent mexican poppy farming family than to a Jihadist Mosque in Pakastan.

 

[rangrz]

Oh yeah i agree but what's worse columbian drug gangs or islamic extremists? Either way money may end up going to people committing horrific acts. For the record though the taliban itself actually outlawed poppy growing which is why the export has increased so much since they were toppled

They did, while in power, and thus had other revenue streams. Now that they are the rebels. (thus do not have taxes, import tarriffs, ect ect) to fund to them selves, they do deal in opium. I seen it first hand. but alas, It doesnt make a bit of difference guys, the taliban are inert. No matter how many bags of smack you shoot, it aint gonna make them that much more potent, so shoot up guilt free!