Divine Moments
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Is anyone else over psychedelics?
- Thread starter llamer
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nope, not yet at least. the desire to trip comes and goes, but the passion for them and the fascination for their uses persists.
also, i think some people arent made to take such substances, and it is perfectly possible that one recognizes this from very few trials. so if one feels like psychs arent for him, then he should jsut leave them behind. if the curiosit will return, they will still be here, no point in trying to convince anyone
also, i think some people arent made to take such substances, and it is perfectly possible that one recognizes this from very few trials. so if one feels like psychs arent for him, then he should jsut leave them behind. if the curiosit will return, they will still be here, no point in trying to convince anyone
Im at a "transitional point" as I consider it. Something is pushing me toward using less psychedelics (or psychoactives in general), and supplimenting with more meditation, yoga, sober mind exploration, etc.
I see the more distant future as likely being 1 trip/month... then probably twice per year. Just a change - if I didnt recognize the vast (legit) potential benefits of infinite variations in set/setting, chemical, timing, dosage levels, etc... I would probably think I am "over psychedelics" too. Actually around 10 or more years ago I thought I was "over psychedelics" for the first time. I was actually just "over wasting psychedelics" for recreation.
I see the more distant future as likely being 1 trip/month... then probably twice per year. Just a change - if I didnt recognize the vast (legit) potential benefits of infinite variations in set/setting, chemical, timing, dosage levels, etc... I would probably think I am "over psychedelics" too. Actually around 10 or more years ago I thought I was "over psychedelics" for the first time. I was actually just "over wasting psychedelics" for recreation.
NeighborhoodThreat
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Nope, I just trip less often than I used to.
clubberdude
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No. Not by a long way. There's a ton of compounds I'd love to experiment with, and that list is getting longer by the day (Just starting to discover Tryptamines, 4-Aco-DMT and 5-Meo-DMT and both look fascinating).
I'm also not done with learning about myself, and psychedelics allow me to do this. I find dissassociatives like Ketamine to be of limited use currently - they are nice, but don't seem to show me anything. That said Ketamine has strong anti-depressant qualities, though Piracetam is has too, and that is far safer for day-to-day use.
I'm also not done with learning about myself, and psychedelics allow me to do this. I find dissassociatives like Ketamine to be of limited use currently - they are nice, but don't seem to show me anything. That said Ketamine has strong anti-depressant qualities, though Piracetam is has too, and that is far safer for day-to-day use.
Chemical Wizard
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Starting in 2008, I tripped a shitload. Then about exactly a year ago I had a frighteningly powerful LSD/ketamine experience, and ever since then I just haven't tripped much on anything, except some K and some MDMA here and there.
I really reallly want to trip again though, and soon ! Now that the weather is nice I could sure go for a wicked ass chemical excursion. I feel like throughout my life, I will probably have the urge to trip come in waves. Trip out a lot for a bit....then take a step back and integrate it. If you trip too often, nothing is trippy anymore. It's like you take all that trippyness back into your normal life and carry it around with you for a while, and you gotta deal with all that "psychedelic baggage" before you can pick up new things. It's like your mind can only expand from drug use so much at a time before it will need a break to get it's bearings again. Then you will need to find other more "down to earth" ways to expand your mind for the time being.
I feel like taking psychedelics is like composting. It takes all the shit in your subconscious and it mixes it up and turns it over so that it turns into something new that other things can begin to grow in. But after you mix up your compost heap enough times, you have to wait a while to accumulate enough new mental "composting material" to really mix it up good again. Know what I'm sayin' ??????????????
I really reallly want to trip again though, and soon ! Now that the weather is nice I could sure go for a wicked ass chemical excursion. I feel like throughout my life, I will probably have the urge to trip come in waves. Trip out a lot for a bit....then take a step back and integrate it. If you trip too often, nothing is trippy anymore. It's like you take all that trippyness back into your normal life and carry it around with you for a while, and you gotta deal with all that "psychedelic baggage" before you can pick up new things. It's like your mind can only expand from drug use so much at a time before it will need a break to get it's bearings again. Then you will need to find other more "down to earth" ways to expand your mind for the time being.
I feel like taking psychedelics is like composting. It takes all the shit in your subconscious and it mixes it up and turns it over so that it turns into something new that other things can begin to grow in. But after you mix up your compost heap enough times, you have to wait a while to accumulate enough new mental "composting material" to really mix it up good again. Know what I'm sayin' ??????????????
llamer
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All really great and positive, overall, responses; thank you.
I admit I wasn't all that descriptive in my original posting, either. The thing could be better said like this: When I was a teenager and trying drugs for the first time, the psychedelic experience (LSD and mushrooms) was a phenomenal new world of exploration, where I could not only hallucinate and laugh my ass off and find everything mundane new and interesting, where the dangerous meant only a hilarious brush with comical death (running across busy streets without realizing it, etc.), and sometimes having acute new understandings to concepts which were otherwise impossible to understand (e.g. TIME) -- now, as Chemical Wizard notes, it's all the same 10 years of compost, and there is nothing new to this at all. I came to that conclusion about 18 months after my first trip, actually, and I stopped taking these drugs almost entirely. Now with access to new things like 2C-E and MXE I'm trying to not exactly recapture what was once had, the fun times when you're still in high school and go to a show on acid and hang out with all your friends, expecting silly trippy things - that's kid stuff and I know it. No, what I want is that deep insightful trip that actually squeegees the ol' third eye, and from what I can tell, it won't happen on the same old chemicals (LSD/psilocybin), and since 2CE reminded me exactly of acid (with extra shitty body load), I realize that it's over, I was right 10 years ago, I DON'T need this. The MXE is a different trip, but still I see its limits (too short of trains of thought [temporally], too confusing, just flowing themes and not enough true astral disassociation). It's I guess what acid was to me a decade ago.
Yeah, my mind's a compost heap, and maybe that's the number one problem here? Maybe I just haven't truly done enough maturing in these last ten years. Shit. It makes me wonder though if everyone else is doing more mental ageing than I am.
I don't wanna keep fucking with drugs to feel 'good,' I want to take them to better myself.
I admit I wasn't all that descriptive in my original posting, either. The thing could be better said like this: When I was a teenager and trying drugs for the first time, the psychedelic experience (LSD and mushrooms) was a phenomenal new world of exploration, where I could not only hallucinate and laugh my ass off and find everything mundane new and interesting, where the dangerous meant only a hilarious brush with comical death (running across busy streets without realizing it, etc.), and sometimes having acute new understandings to concepts which were otherwise impossible to understand (e.g. TIME) -- now, as Chemical Wizard notes, it's all the same 10 years of compost, and there is nothing new to this at all. I came to that conclusion about 18 months after my first trip, actually, and I stopped taking these drugs almost entirely. Now with access to new things like 2C-E and MXE I'm trying to not exactly recapture what was once had, the fun times when you're still in high school and go to a show on acid and hang out with all your friends, expecting silly trippy things - that's kid stuff and I know it. No, what I want is that deep insightful trip that actually squeegees the ol' third eye, and from what I can tell, it won't happen on the same old chemicals (LSD/psilocybin), and since 2CE reminded me exactly of acid (with extra shitty body load), I realize that it's over, I was right 10 years ago, I DON'T need this. The MXE is a different trip, but still I see its limits (too short of trains of thought [temporally], too confusing, just flowing themes and not enough true astral disassociation). It's I guess what acid was to me a decade ago.
Yeah, my mind's a compost heap, and maybe that's the number one problem here? Maybe I just haven't truly done enough maturing in these last ten years. Shit. It makes me wonder though if everyone else is doing more mental ageing than I am.
I don't wanna keep fucking with drugs to feel 'good,' I want to take them to better myself.
wishfulthinking
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I cant agree more.
superelephant
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Lol.
Bump this thread when you try n,n dmt. then we'll see just how "over" it you are.
Bump this thread when you try n,n dmt. then we'll see just how "over" it you are.
I will keep going as long it feels like there is more to experience. I've read some stories where people have quit after LSD thumbprints, tropane alkaloids or otherwise intense experiences. Maybe they got a 'game over' - feeling? I've been at it for 12 years and have yet to try DMT, it's not over until that anyway. I haven't been able to keep ayahuasca inside long enough so need to find another form and it's not exactly common here.
2c-e can be INTENSE, my friend accidentally dosed me way too much the first time (100mg range) and I was scared for a while about an unknown RC but it was amazing. Total disconnection from the physical world and senses in the end. Weed cured the nasty body feeling. Sounds, people, objects were all just colored shapes moving in unison to the beat of the universe which music followed too. For an unknown reason I was driving around in a car some time before the peak and every surface I could see was made of this liquid burning frost (it was winter). Driving was fine but that shit can really warp the visual world. Still, I try to avoid doing too many RCs.
Starting to ramble. In a nutshell: No, just getting started.
2c-e can be INTENSE, my friend accidentally dosed me way too much the first time (100mg range) and I was scared for a while about an unknown RC but it was amazing. Total disconnection from the physical world and senses in the end. Weed cured the nasty body feeling. Sounds, people, objects were all just colored shapes moving in unison to the beat of the universe which music followed too. For an unknown reason I was driving around in a car some time before the peak and every surface I could see was made of this liquid burning frost (it was winter). Driving was fine but that shit can really warp the visual world. Still, I try to avoid doing too many RCs.
Starting to ramble. In a nutshell: No, just getting started.
psood0nym
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It sounds like you figured it out. Congratulations, many simply tell themselves the drugs are lacking, as if a molecule was truly a teacher. What a person gets out of psychedelics is entirely up to them, not the drugs. Psychedelics are just chemicals, nothing more. They can help you expand your mind, but you need to keep adding to that mind in the interim, so that there is something to expand into and explore when you use them again. They will not give you anything more than you give yourself. If you're done growing as a person psychedelics offer little but amusement.