Is anyone else here completely sober?

[Allein]

'Sober' means different things to different people.

For some a daily glass of wine with an evening meal could be considered beneficial, to others daily drinking only leads to one place.

Many don't consider nicotine use a true addiction, in terms of it's immediate effect on your ability to function.

Used in a positive way the term is taken on by people to define their achievement of breaking out of the addictive behaviors they have been trapped within, Addiction is such a personal thing, what is healthy for some can be a real problem for another, food is a really clear example of this, exercise another that springs to mind.

Personally I've not managed to define what Sober means for me as yet, so it's not something I focus on as goal for that reason, contentment and fulfillment at a personal level are more important to me at the moment.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^ good post.
i don't really know what sober is other than me not feeling well for years on end.
i donno what normal actually is, and if i experienced it before in life i don't think i'd recognize it.. that's a goal for me.
figure out how im meant to feel and TRY to keep myself that way.
on the being sober or clean part.. no im not. i take my rx's and etiz and drink a few beers a day. but that is progress on what i WAS doing for the last half of my life.

 

[Oxy_Ghost]

^ good post.
i don't really know what sober is other than me not feeling well for years on end.
i donno what normal actually is, and if i experienced it before in life i don't think i'd recognize it.. that's a goal for me.
figure out how im meant to feel and TRY to keep myself that way.
on the being sober or clean part.. no im not. i take my rx's and etiz and drink a few beers a day. but that is progress on what i WAS doing for the last half of my life.

Same with me, even though I only used for around 4 1/2 year, I don't remember what it was like to be and feel "normal". I'm hoping one day I will

 

[ad lib]

I guess it depends on your view of 'sobriety'. if we're going with the definition of free from all mind altering substances, then no, i'm not. i take xanax, occasionally drink alcohol, and have coffee or tea at least once a day. but i did beat an IV opiate addiction so i consider that a step in the right direction.

 

[phatass]

i'm on meds, benzos and subs, and lately i've been drinking a bit too much and doing a bit of dxm, so no not comletely sober, but on a scale of 0 to 100 i was at 98 and i'm now at like 10

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

I'm replying to this thread since there have been other new threads about sobriety recently in TDS.

 

[Hiroki]

Is anyone else here completely sober? By this I mean that they don't even smoke pot or use cannabis at all in other ways like vaporizing, dabbing/hash oil, eating it in prepared foods, or take psychedelic drugs or research chems.

I personally don't use cannabis at all or use any psychedelics or legal research chems, is anyone else here like this? I don't drink or take opiates and the only stimulant I use now is caffeine.

I was like that yes, and desperately hope to get back there soon. Right now I am struggling with the idea that I need to use mxe and 4-aco-dmt to smash through my alcohol, benzo, and marijuana habits. Or do I just need to give up the idea that I need psy's to grow? It simply is not the only way one can progress, meditation has been used for thousands of years to reach states far beyond what a foreign chemical can induce...Eastern philosophies and arts may be the path for me. We will see what the coming weeks bring in terms of the 'end of days psy trials'...

But is that really going to help me? You see I am torn right now, my recent return to addiction obliterated the opportunities I had going for me, now I must rebuild and start again. Only this time I will be stronger. Each time I've fallen, I become so much stronger physically and mentally.

I use mushrooms between four to six times a year and i have smoked grass four times in the last six months. so Im not completely sober. My goal is to live the most peaceful life in recovery and free from active addiction and I feal I am doing this in a fashion that is best for me.

Peace be with you my friend.

 

[Chatative]

I'm sober largely speaking at the moment but more out of necessity than want. If it wasn't for being on SSRIs, I'd probably be drinking... I think the only reason I can't is because I have no tolerance to alcohol otherwise I might be able to manage the odd drink despite the meds.

I am however smoking ~10 cigarettes a day at the moment, but I wouldn't really count that as affecting sobriety.

I'm not sure when I'll be taking drugs again but when I do it likely to be some form of opioid. I like drugs, but I have to face up to the fact that many drugs are detrimental to my mental health & even with ones that have little impact, I should only use them infrequently.

So yes, I'm virtually completely sober but not out of choice.

I view psychedelics taken only occasionally as a sacrament, not a lack of sobriety.

This is something that appeals very much to me.

Using MDMA earlier this year & watching Dirty Pictures, a documentary on Shulgin, really opened my eyes to the fact I was abusing, not using drugs... using drugs therapeutically or to explore spirituality etc. seems like the way forwards. Much more fulfilling.

I have some DMT waiting to be tried but it may be a long time before I do.

 

[deltakappamu]

I am completely sober.

Heroin is my drug of choice.. have tried maintenance in the form of methadone clinics and sub doctors in the past. I have also tried having a prescription of benzos but I can never take them as prescribed and end up taking the entire script in two days. I never was much of a weed smoker.. only used to hit a blunt if it was being passed around wherever I was or if I had taken mushrooms or ecstasy.

The only medication I take is Tegretol for seizures, seroquel at night and vitamins. I have flexeril on hand for muscle aches at bedtime PRN.

I WISH I could use drugs successfully.. or be like a weekend warrior, but I have proved over and over again that is simply not possible for me.

 

[charlescharlieq]

yeh

 

[DistantShadows]

Yep! I'm a clean jean! Occasional glass of wine or 2 but that's it. However, addicted to caffeine & trying to curb that enthusiasm

 

[deltakappamu]

Yep! I'm a clean jean! Occasional glass of wine or 2 but that's it. However, addicted to caffeine & trying to curb that enthusiasm

I recently started drinking these sugar free energy drinks.. I am so DEAD without them. I started drinking them for energy because I feel dead as fuck and can't concentrate, then one day I didn't have any and I had a huge headache all day and felt sluggish. SO I guess I am part of that enthusiasm too

 

[drewbocop]

Totally clean and sober unless you count coffee in the mornings and too many god damn cigarettes.

 

[Xorkoth]

I'm not. I will never touch another opiate again and I have no desire for "hard" drugs, but I enjoy psychedelics when the feeling strikes me, and I stopped buying my own cannabis but I smoke it with my friends. I drink with my friends too when drinking is happening. It feels like a healthy place for me to be because I don't have a problem with any of those drugs and none of those drugs make me feel like taking drugs I have a problem with.

 

[BlueIV]

I drink, but otherwise I've never used drugs for recreation. I take codeine when it's prescribed, other than pain relief and cough suppression I had no positive effects. I always ended up with a headache after, so I can't imagine using it for fun.
I like how relaxed and well I sleep when taking hydroxyzine, but only take it when my symptoms warrant it.

 

[njirem]

i smoke cigarettes and drink coffee, and two meds (ssri & srni). The only high is endrofine from jogging apart from that im now 5 weeks completely sober.

 

[Maya]

still occasionally drink and smoke weed like on very special occasions.

 

[Eveleivibe]

I am sober apart from suboxone n drink a few nights a week but nothing to what it was. I used to drink either 3 bottles of wine or a bottle of vodka a night. Before that I was addicted to opiates.

Oh n I take citalopram too.

Evey

 

[Allein]

I'm not convinced there is such a thing as 'completely sober' I guess it might be achievable from a chemical point of view, no pharmaceuticals, no tobacco, no alcohol, no legal highs, no illegal drugs, no caffeine or other naturally occurring stimulants but IME some obsess so much over fitness or diet that that becomes a harmful addiction in itself.

I believe the first goal is to be a positive and happy individual, I'd hope that what followed would be contributing some of that positivity and happiness to the world at large....and I havent even got long hair

What is damaging for one person can be benign to another, alcohol is an easy example.

I'm a work in progress

 

[Eveleivibe]

^^^^
Sober means not intoxicated or drunk. However, you have a point in that people can get addicted / obsessed with other things apart from chemicals. I feel well- being is important.

Evey