Cocaine Is a speed ball really that good?

[morphinanymous]

Is mixing heroin and cocaine in the same rig really that good?

Short answer? Fuck yes.

Long answer.. don't do it. It'll take your current addiction and magnify it by 100.

Agreed + it.

if you're not testing/ purifying the coke, you're ruining your veins. I don't considering anything besides coke+heroin inside the same rig a speedball. Smoking crack isn't nearly intense enough for me to get the same rush, and its hard to hold a crackpipe and shoot dope at the same time.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Yeah, I've done them with IV'ing crack if there was no soft around..and it's still super intense, but I mean.. shooting coke is hard enough on your veins. No need to make it even worse by IV'ing crack.

As far as smoking crack and shooting dope.. I just consider that exactly what it is, "smoking crack and shooting dope." Totally fun and pleasurable in its own regard.. but the rush from the IV coke is way more intense IMO.

And, like Z said..I normally always feel the coke first with a massive bellringer and start to feel the wash of the dope as it wears off. If I put in enough dope or a little less coke, sometimes I'll feel the rushes together. But, I'd rather just have a fucking massive head exploding bellringer by itself, then get carried down to safety by the dope.

 

[Sepher]

I think that a lot of people that enjoy speedballs have too high of a tolerance to enjoy one or the other on their own, so they take a combined mediocre buzz from each together instead of a mediocre buzz from either on their own.

Yeah, pretty much Tommy. I was never bang into smoking crack, shit buzz really but so oddly sooooo addictive all the same. Started Iving it mainly cos IVing H didn't do anything anymore. Crack gave me the rush I was missing. If it was pure rush i was after I'd bang it on its own then do the H later, but normally I'd speedball so the H made the crack hit bearable. Kinda mad moderating ups and downs like that really, but wasn't feeling the H so much. H was about feeling straight.

hell, i respectfully disagree that you don't feel the rush of both drugs when shot up. i've been through all common ROA's with both heroin and coke (except oral because fuck that shit) and to say that you only feel the coke when you mainline a speedball is simply not true, at least not for me. an IV speedball is completely different from both IV coke and heroin. granted, it's different for everyone, but i simply dislike such broad generalisations.

See above. If I'd not been an addict I could have done without the H completely. There was no H rush left whatsoever. The H was there to cut the harsher effects of the Coke, didn't produce much in the way of a rush itself. It was mainly Coke I felt. Disagree all you like. If you're still getting an H hit, great, hope it lasts. You prolly just ain't got where there's none left yet!

p.s. This idea shooting Crack is harder on the veins than shooting Coke? Why, exactly? Crack + just enough Citric / other acid turns it back into the salt ( Citrate / Acetate / etc ) don't it? Are you talking acidity here?

 

[slamingrudie]

IV coke is a lot different than insufflated coke. I would go so far as to say its practically a different drug. However the rush is so intense, that users offten either add heroin to the solution, or use herin afterwards in order to come down properly. A common misconception is that you feel the rush of both drugs.[b[]You don't.[/b]. You feel the rush of cocaine, and then sink into the opiate.

Honestly most people I know don't shoot speedballs habitually. They are addicted to heroin, like to shoot coke, and will shoot coke until they have one bag left, and then speedball that one

I DEF agree that IV coke is practically a whole different drug. I personally am QUITE addicted to shooting coke, and like to add dope to my last shot of coke instead of being a dopehead who adds coke to the one bag of heroin... I really like the speedball effect A LOT though... heroin comes on pretty show in an IV compared to coke, so the coke rush is just tapering off when the dope hits me anyway, so I find they don't really interfere with each other, and I'm way less likely to geek out and try and find more coke that I can't afford anyway if I mix a cpl bags of dirt in my last shot. I'll shoot dope by itself once in a great while, but I never really got what all the fuss was about in comparison to shooting coke. I loved coke for years before I tried shooting it, but now I consider it a waste to do it any other way...

 

[Uncle Uncle]

I was going to see if I could start a speedball thread, glad I searched first. Generally, I was wondering if a lot of people still do it, what kinds of combos they use, etc. It seems like the people I know are more specialized than they used to be, with the tweakers being tweakers and the rock hounds only interested in that, etc. Dope fiends have always been generally only interested in narcotics, I guess.

When I was younger, we used to get preludin and dilaudid pills on the street and often mixed them. Desoxyn, sometimes, was out there and sometimes demerol. No pills like that on these streets anymore that I know about. I haven't heard of desoxyn at all in a long time, so maybe they quit making it. Then the classic vitamin H and crank or coke, of course. When we had to go to work and couldn't do it without dope but didn't want to nod in public, a bit of speed on top took care of both problems nicely.

Haven't seen any cocaine in a long time, but sometimes I run into crank (does anyone still call it that? crystal meth?) and mix a speedball just for the fuck of it. Most of the time, though, I'll follow H with another light shot of speed for the able-to-work effect, or more often smoke them both with the H first because crank definitely hits faster either route. I'm just an old dope fiend at heart and like to get good and steamrolled whenever I can, even if I've planned a half-assed speedball for whatever reason. Big difference between speed and coke, of course, and I'd probably by a few grams of coke right now if somebody knocked on the door with some quality stuff. Reminiscing does that to me...

 

[laCster]

the H always ended up just taking over the coke, the coke did add to the rush, but i could never find any really good coke. it's all stomped on, so i stopped spending my money on cocaine after a few attempts at a speedball. it seemed a bit overrated to me, and i always thought, "why would i want to spend my money on something to keep me up, when i could buy more boy and nodd even harder?"

smoking on rocks on dope is a different story IMO, that is one hell of a fucking drug. for me though, the highs would compete and never synergize, it would be like one minute i felt the crack, and one minute the dope.

 

[opiatekrzy]

i never mixed heroin and cocaine in a shot at the same time, to me it seems like they both will be effective at a neutral peak, just the thought of the cocaine wearing off fucking up the heroin high and making you crash even if minimally scares me, i have Ived coke, came down and did dope, and felt right back to normal, i have Ived Heroin, and then smoked crack, i didnt feign like i normally would at all, a half gram of crack lasts me 8 hours, i take 1 hit per hour high on heroin, if its just crack believe that half gram lasts an hour or 2