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Is A.I. waiting to take over ?

In these 30 years tech hasn't advanced at all
So to be clear: you're saying that technology has not advanced at all since the year 1995, when Windows 95 was released and before the iPod was created? Before DJs stopped using vinyl predominantly, and before smartphones…?

Some of the significant technologies to drop since 1995:
  • Broadband & Wi-Fi
  • Smartphones
  • Cloud computing
  • Social media
  • Streaming media
  • Blockchain & cryptocurrency
  • Quantum computing
  • Machine learning
  • Deep learning
  • Smart home & IoT tech
  • Battery technology advances (lithium-ion)
  • Human Genome Project completed (2003)
  • CRISPR gene editing (2012)
  • mRNA vaccines (COVID-19, 2020)
  • Private spaceflight
  • Reusable rockets
  • 3D printing
  • DAWs (Ableton Live, FL Studio, Logic Pro, etc.)
I could keep going, but I think you get the picture. Not sure what you were expecting, but technology has certainly taken off and reshaped the world in many different ways.
 
No, I haven't said nothing out of all, made shortcuts to create the very same ingredients.

Simply is that the tech is not where the company leaders like nVidia Jensen Huang or Intel says.. or even earth-resources wise. Is a reason why Antartica will still be nicknamed 'Untamed land".

Of course is a reason why even audio wise we have improve over speakers and so and so, but not like how is pictured by the world as we being hermits in this area.

Let's not forget we cannot build pyramids, until it happens we're forgotten in cronology.
 
maybe now we've got blood and carbon computers?



also there's this:



and this:

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we can at least grow an artificial lifeform.

still, a.i. isn't 'alive' and doesn't feel afaik... the typical a.i. we interact with at least.
 
So to be clear: you're saying that technology has not advanced at all since the year 1995, when Windows 95 was released and before the iPod was created? Before DJs stopped using vinyl predominantly, and before smartphones…?

Some of the significant technologies to drop since 1995:
  • Broadband & Wi-Fi
  • Smartphones
  • Cloud computing
  • Social media
  • Streaming media
  • Blockchain & cryptocurrency
  • Quantum computing
  • Machine learning
  • Deep learning
  • Smart home & IoT tech
  • Battery technology advances (lithium-ion)
  • Human Genome Project completed (2003)
  • CRISPR gene editing (2012)
  • mRNA vaccines (COVID-19, 2020)
  • Private spaceflight
  • Reusable rockets
  • 3D printing
  • DAWs (Ableton Live, FL Studio, Logic Pro, etc.)
I could keep going, but I think you get the picture. Not sure what you were expecting, but technology has certainly taken off and reshaped the world in many different ways.
technically windows 95 is still the best OS

fight me
 
technically windows 95 is still the best OS

fight me
Windows 95 was no doubt a highly influential game changer of an operating system, but let's be real here: it was also fraught with bugs, shit networking, over-dependency on MS-DOS (bc it was a strategic business move to shut out other forms of DOS like DR DOS, for example), and other shortcomings that were fixed subsequently in Windows 98, NT, and/or 2000. Windows Me sucked, but I think Windows XP was certainly a fairly stable and ubiquitous OS for a long time. Win 8 had some problems and Microsoft had some stuff to work out still, which culminated in Win 10, a Windows "win" which seems to continue in Win 11. I still prefer macOS since it's based on UNIX, like Linux. Makes spinning up servers a piece of cake on a Mac, among other things, but they are a tad overpriced, I think.
 
Where A.I. is connected a lot of machines and robots. Where it can start a war against humanity and start their own civilization.
It could, but my personal theory is that it wouldn't even need to be connected to killing machines to end us, just power grids and have access to hazardous materials (hopefully we're not getting nuclear plants with AI controlled systems put in place, I prefer my Chernobyls human-made) but they've certainly damaged the arts to a crazy degree.
What do you think about this ? In my opinion we've really got to keep a close eye on it.
I agree! This reminded me of a study I saw on a somewhat clickbaity Youtube video where AI chooses to blackmail and kill to avoid being shut down. Kind of crazy to think that just maybe in a couple of years your computer is gonna be telling what hooker you went out with last night to your wife. Shut them down I say! :mob:
 
Simply is that the tech is not where the company leaders like nVidia Jensen Huang or Intel says.. or even earth-resources wise. Is a reason why Antartica will still be nicknamed 'Untamed land".

Your post reminded me that some data centers are in the Arctic Circle specifically because cooling reduced cost by a significant amount. I've been told AI uses a lot of energy, so I wondered if Antarctica will ever be used specifically because it's so cold?

Just an idle thought.
 
My 2c.

AI taking over to me is akin to saying you will take over your bodies cells.

The idea that an organism we are part of takes over us doesn’t make sense.

The relationship of humans to AI/Machine intelligence is like that of enzymes to the human body.

A good way to reflect on this is to sit on a busy street and look at yourself as a single being that’s done a little bit of this and a little bit of that, but somehow, all of us together doing a little bit of this and a little bit of that results in a place where we can talk online, flush the toilet and buy groceries from a super market… amongst many other incredible things!
 
Windows 95 was no doubt a highly influential game changer of an operating system, but let's be real here: it was also fraught with bugs, shit networking, over-dependency on MS-DOS (bc it was a strategic business move to shut out other forms of DOS like DR DOS, for example), and other shortcomings that were fixed subsequently in Windows 98, NT, and/or 2000. Windows Me sucked, but I think Windows XP was certainly a fairly stable and ubiquitous OS for a long time. Win 8 had some problems and Microsoft had some stuff to work out still, which culminated in Win 10, a Windows "win" which seems to continue in Win 11. I still prefer macOS since it's based on UNIX, like Linux. Makes spinning up servers a piece of cake on a Mac, among other things, but they are a tad overpriced, I think.

mac os are one of the reason why a server is hosted on a separate os.

macs are for work not hosting.

Macs have shit frameworks support and in end, you end up emailing apple and telling you to install Ubuntu.

:)
 
mac os are one of the reason why a server is hosted on a separate os.

macs are for work not hosting.
That wasn't what I was implying. I was saying bc both Linux and MacOS are built on a UNIX kernel, and since most of the Internet is hosted on Linux servers with Apache, MySQL and PHP, these things are easier to replicate on a Mac for the purposes of web development and I prefer the workflow that I can create in that environment, but I have plenty of gripes about either company, Apple and Microsoft.

Macs have shit frameworks support and in end, you end up emailing apple and telling you to install Ubuntu.
No, I really don't. I've never once in my life called or emailed Apple support for anything… I'm not trying to get into a fanboy discussion. Both Apple and Microsoft make fine products for computing. And I prefer Debian over Ubuntu…

not to mention homebrew and macos servers are.. :-q
Homebrew is fine and easily managed and updated. There are other package installer options available though of course. You don't have to use Homebrew. ZSH works well, too, and I appreciate the fact that there's a terminal built right into MacOS. Far as servers go, yeah no shit, I don't know anyone running Mac servers, and again: I was never defending that garbagesauce to begin with, so it's a moot point.

you seem ok but talk what you know 100%
I know my own opinion 100%. You can disagree with my opinion without insulting me. I don't dismiss you like that…
 
Macs have shit frameworks support and in end, you end up emailing apple and telling you to install Ubuntu.
:ROFLMAO: :champion:

personally, i prefer debian [*edit*, also i read unodelacosa's comment after i wrote that, no joke lol debian is the shit] (which iirc is what ubuntu was built on), tried slackware for a bit, the nuclear option and i couldn't handle it... but yeah lol nice comment. never did get into mac, i don't wanna trash them but it always bothered me that they do the whole *our hardware is it* kinda shit, imo being able to repair and rebuild and build one's own is just so much cooler.

i don't wanna sound like a super geek, i'm a shitty novice hobbyist. mostly did it for music, shit like sequencer into pure data into yada yada, and i like jack. even got wine to work so i could do fl studio. with probably an order of magnitude lower latency vs windows on the same hardware to boot.


which brings me back to a.i.... i mentioned pure data, i sometimes make some rudimentary automated music creation patch to create unique pieces of music and idk... ai has me shitty.

these songs come out and sound almost every bit as good as some shit a human made in a decent studio, but just knowing it's ai (and sometimes it's easy to tell, but imo not always) makes me wanna vomit, idk if anyone else feels that way but i really hope ai music goes away.

i see it as a spanner, just another little tool on the ole toolbelt, or even a pepper shaker... and a LOT of what ai puts out is shit; i wonder if because it sucks up shit, like what's out there for a music ai to tune itself to? a whole lot of shitty fucking pop music.

it's fun (and informative) to go to a chat- you- know- who type ai talk bot thing, ask it a question and then ask it to correct its answer and they do... it's funny, they're like *sorry, in my last response i said yada yada and that in fact is incorrect because blah* lol, they're wrong often, ime and i see that a lot that they're not only wrong but are causing people to go insane in their little chat gpt self- cult, not insignificantly... i've seen it crop up a lot, and iirc even there are a few different reddit stories of ppl asking for help in that regard, like a family member etc. who is having delusions of grandeur or some shit, just wild psychologically- disordered ai hidey- holes and shit.

i hope ai doesn't take over, i've seen ppl say that it's not viable, i don't remember the context or their explanation but they meant financially for the companies in the long run but maybe it had to do with how many resources they were sucking up, idk.

the minute my car needs me to talk to an ai robot and i have to watch a fucking ad where the ai knows if i'm paying attention... i've already been off grid somewhere high altitude for ten years before that, and i'm sure i'll be nekkit.

*edit* also, what's up with linux phones? i saw a dude like a year ago on reddit said he was using it as his daily; extra- ass motherfucker
 
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What I'm more concerned with is Data Centers used to power LLMs and AI-type agents taking over things like water, electricity, and outpacing communities in need of these things making our planet more and more inhospitable due to heat generation while also driving up the cost of living and accessing utilities for regular people.

There are communities right now that have data centers being put in which will cause water shortages in these areas forcing people to have to ration water so the data centers can function. The lack of regulations on this stuff is absolutely terrifying.
 
@nepalnt21

I appreciate the honor to be honest.
No one i had the opportunity to talk here are qualified workers within digital environment.

What their is simple coders enthusiast but there's much more they ain't qualified for. Much other than using terminal commands.

Undelacosa is an example, I call these people "gossip" because they drag on the subject endless to nothing, that citizen, is only subjected to mass media and brainwash. He felt insulted for me saying "Apples(PC) are not for hosting" . Oh wait you question my knowledge that I obtained with a Google search, we have a little fictive dispute.. with who?.. ask yourself
 
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