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IQ and drug addiction

lyXw33d said:
Er... take a look at your post count - you have no life. And it's a concept of correlation if anything: a high IQ correlates with high intelligence, picture stamps coincide with higher quality dope, whadayknow.
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Hey, don't be a jerk-off.
 
I think people with higher IQ have a higher chance of depression or other disorders and don't feel like they fit in so they abuse drugs. That might be a contributing factor to the theory. Theres probably just as many idiots as geniuses who are addicts though. I know a few people with down syndrome who are addicted to Meth. When they do it you really can't tell they have down syndrome or any problems except for their facial futures. They can be really smart people though it's just hard for them to understand some things, and no when I said their are idiots who are addicts I wasn't referring to down syndrome. I love my friends.
 
The_Idler said:
if that was the case, they'd be stupid.
so false-positive high IQ testing of a person may lead to drug addiction.
hmmm sounds like some kind of DEA tenuous link right there.
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yes and everyone knows that maryjane is a gateway drug to that 2 month old stale bag of crushed bbqranch spicy doritos in your couch cushions! i bet the dea's IQ is SOOOPER high! 8)
 
I won't make any claims as to correlation with IQ, but I do think that some attitudes towards using drugs are dumber than others. That is, going into drug use without considering moderation, believing that it necessitates overuse and addiction is a dumb idea.

My wholly unscientific observations lead me to believe that dumb people tend to have dumb ideas going into drug use and tend to be more accepting of dumb, immoderate use.

Granted, people can let it get away from them even when they don't intend to. What I am saying is that some people go into drug use essentially EXPECTING to become addicted, and that that attitude usually correlates with being kinda brainless.
 
While there could be some (limited) correlation between drug-abuse and intelligence, there are certainly plenty of less than intelligent individuals who become drug addicted. Perhaps intelligent people survive somewhat longer (as heavy drug abusers), or are able to find innovative ways to support more extreme addictions, but this is also debatable.

Online intelligence tests are most likely bullshit (perhaps there are some truly full length exams, I am not entirely sure). My IQ was somewhat higher as a child, which occurs in some people, while the opposite occurs in other. I had measured my IQ (not online) a few months before I had gotten into drugs, then somewhat recently after a period of heavy drug abuse (opioids and benzos), and noticed a decrease by 6 points, which still probably fits into the standard deviation of the previous score. Nonetheless, my memory is not as sharp as it once was, but it continues to improve to pre-drug levels. One unintended benefit is that I can concentrate a little better now, but this actually makes me a bit uneasy...

Some people forget just how stupid "average" is, so even if true, claims of 120-40 are not surprising. In fact, if you’re able to log-on to a computer, find this website, and type a semi-coherent sentence, I’d wager to say your IQ is at least 115!

This being said, a very high IQ is not synonymous with success (although it can be in regards to academics). The hallmark of a truly intelligent individual is one who is able to get extremely intelligent individuals to work for their purposes.
 
Spacedementia897 said:
I think people with higher IQ have a higher chance of depression or other disorders and don't feel like they fit in so they abuse drugs. That might be a contributing factor to the theory. Theres probably just as many idiots as geniuses who are addicts though.
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basically agree, a lot of "geniues" and amazing artists have become addicted to drugs and/or fall into depression.
 
Online tests are entirely fake, wtf- you're reporting them as if they have any meaning.

They don't.

WISC-III scored me either 135 or 145, i don't recall, and it's a big gap.
 
I am addicted to poppies and have been psychologically addicted to psychedelics. I believe I have a high IQ, but that does not prove anything. Maybe people with high IQ are more likely to use drugs, or maybe the opposite is true.

I use drugs to deal with depression and anxiety. Tripping can be a good cure for boredom.

I've never taken a professional IQ test, but originally scored 134 on an online test. After taking some remedial math classes and a few other classes, that increased to 156. I think the online tests are too easy and I'd expect a professional IQ test to be harder. I could be wrong. I'd like to find out eventually.
 
>>To quote drug_wench "Addicts tend to be very passionate, artistic people". I don't think IQ has anything to do with it.>>

My training in psychopathology claimed that in one study (likely a wide survey of Americans), addicts had a statistically significantly higher IQ than non-addicts.

ebola
 
if that was the case, they'd be stupid.



so false-positive high IQ testing of a person may lead to drug addiction.


hmmm sounds like some kind of DEA tenuous link right there.
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What I mean is that for some people (the kind who are kinda fucked up in the head to begin with), having their IQ tested could start them on the kind of negative thinking that can lead to substance abuse. Having an IQ that's better then average could get some people stuck on the whole idea of how they're so different to everybody else, they don't fit in, no one understand them, etc..

As if it's their excuse for starting to use drugs irresponsibly, when in reality they aren't so different to everyone else, they just have a fucked up sense of self.

Anyway, just an idea, of course it wouldn't apply to the majority of people.

This being said, a very high IQ is not synonymous with success (although it can be in regards to academics). The hallmark of a truly intelligent individual is one who is able to get extremely intelligent individuals to work for their purposes.
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QFT.
 
In my experience, addiction doesn't care how "intelligent" you are. Most of my life I thought I could outsmart the drugs (oxy, heroin) and failed everytime. Sure there are some idiot addicts but there are some genius addicts too. Addiction does not discriminate. As a masters student in statistics I would love to see some raw data on the topic(and prove my theory), but I can tell you collecting data like that is nearly impossible.
 
lyXw33d said:
Er... take a look at your post count - you have no life. And it's a concept of correlation if anything: a high IQ correlates with high intelligence, picture stamps coincide with higher quality dope, whadayknow.
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A high IQ is correlated to the ability to repeat learned information not with actual intelligence or ability to learn. And picture dope stamps coincide with people making up ideas about how the stamp or color of the ink actually means somethin instead of admittin that they dont know enough about it from their own real life experience to know that ideas like that are bullshit.

As far as the "truth" about "how ghetto fab i really am'', go head, Id love to hear it. IDK who you know that says they know me or met me but anybody who has does know what Im really about so keep my name in your mouth its only a sign that Im doin somethin right.

Iunno what it is that causes you to have to talk shit to/about me whenever we cross paths on here but have fun with that i hope it brings some enjoyment to your life.


Mr Blonde I think you got a good point if im understandin you right. lables n shit like that really dont help people its similar to gettin a diagnosis of some kind of mental problem and the difference between two people who both got for example bi polar, but one of them got a label to put on it and identify themself with and the other one is jus liek "this is me" and dont put as much weight on it. it seems like the more you put a name to shit the more impact it ends up havin, so i think you headed on the right track with what you got to say about that.
 
ebola? said:
>>To quote drug_wench "Addicts tend to be very passionate, artistic people". I don't think IQ has anything to do with it.>>

My training in psychopathology claimed that in one study (likely a wide survey of Americans), addicts had a statistically significantly higher IQ than non-addicts.

ebola
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Any chance you've got a link to the data or remember the textbook it came from? I'm always looking for a good thesis topic and this would be an especially interesting one.
 
I HAVE KNOWN SOME DUMB ONES AND SOME SMART ONES! MOST OF THE DUMB ONES ARE INCARCERATED! go figure!
 
Mr Blonde I think you got a good point if im understandin you right. lables n shit like that really dont help people its similar to gettin a diagnosis of some kind of mental problem and the difference between two people who both got for example bi polar, but one of them got a label to put on it and identify themself with and the other one is jus liek "this is me" and dont put as much weight on it. it seems like the more you put a name to shit the more impact it ends up havin, so i think you headed on the right track with what you got to say about that.
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Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying... you probably got it across better then I could. :)
 
A high IQ is correlated to the ability to repeat learned information not with actual intelligence or ability to learn.
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Come on, why post unfounded responses like that (as always)? Did you think that the IQ test asks you questions on general knowledge? Like jeapordy? Aren't you at all interested? Take a look on wikipedia or something. If you've ever taken the test, it actually tests your ability to learn/store/comprehend/manipulate information during the test, and, actually, it's an intelligence test (by it's very nature/name) believe it or not!
 
My point is that someone who is intelligent but did not get trained in the questions that the test asks would get a low score and be viewed as unintelligent when any person with average intelligence could master the test and score higher than a person who is actually more intelligent than they are. You could be amazingly smart and still score shitty on the test if you aint been conditioned to answer questions in a certain way. its a extremely narrow , biased measure of shit and most people who bother to do any research about it understand that.

Anyways,This thread is turnin into a IQ debate once again so make it relevant to drugs or the ish's gettin sent off to P&s.
 
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