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Introducing MDMA to a non-believer

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Haseo

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So this is something I've been trying to figure out for a while: convincing others that MDMA, if taken responsibly, is a non-harmful substance(actually helpful in most cases). I have multiple friends that are utterly brainwashed into thinking that MDMA puts holes in your brain, causes heart attacks, leads to addiction, etc. I've tried both explaining the TRUE facts, stating concrete research that has come out regarding the chemical, and have even attempted to show them the articles/videos. The general response has generally been "You're just a drug user trying to defend your drug, that information is probably skewed."

For the most part, I've been able to put up with all the ignorance because I have plenty of friends that also do MDMA and are aware of what it does to the body. The real problem is my new..love interest. I'm getting her into the rave scene(gunna be going to her first rave in a couple weeks) and she's GENERALLY non judgmental...except when it comes to drugs other than marijuana. She also believes that E puts holes in your brain, even after I've gone on my rant about things such as Ricaurte's false study. She is non judgmental enough to not care if I do MDMA...but I'm not allowed to do it around her/she's not interested in going near it.

I'm not into forcing people to trying things they don't want to, or forcing opinions down the throats of others, but I really want this girl to try it. She has a lot of anxiety and paranoia and I actually think MDMA would greatly benefit her in the long run. I used to have anxiety and paranoia as well until I took E for the first time, and now I'm much more laid back, productive, and open minded. I'm not going to sit here and claim MDMA is a miracle drug but it can have some profound, long lasting effects as you all know!

TLDR; How do I get someone like this girl or my friends to become more comfortable with the idea of accepting and/or trying MDMA? Have any of you had success in a situation like this? How did you go about it?
 
The holes in the brain scans were actually just scans of blood flow, botched by US doctors.. maybe on purpose... who knows? If they want to scare people into not taking a substance then they have every right to, they just shouldn't write about it as fact.

One of the reasons MDMA doesn't lead to addiction is because you simply can't do it all the time. Taking it more than once a month leads to deregulation of serotonin receptors and can be very dangerous. It can cause depression, anxiety, head pressures, etc. MDMA just doesn't lead to heart attacks. Unless your pills are "laced" with SO much speed and there are external factors at play, this won't happen.

The truth is though, that MDMA is harmful... whether you want to accept it or not. Doing things like using once a month, staying hydrated, etc will greatly reduce any negative effects to the point where there shouldn't be any, but a lot of people can't follow these rules. There is nothing you can do besides encourage them to reads articles on FACTS that you find. Chances are they will not take your word for it, being a user and enthusiast of the chemical, yourself.
 
^ +1

Definately Agree on the Hard to stick with the useage/doseage
What realisation i come to, and believe was that if you use it less often, That happiness you are feeling is More natural feeling and not Pushed as much.
Just think of it has someone who has to use a lot to get rolling every couple of weeks,
Thats surely more of a chemical feel to it, Than say , a lower dose on someone who uses a lot less often and has got an unbeatable smile on their face. I speak from my own experience I guess, Ive Rolled hard couple of times just to see what its like but i think im done with that now
 
I've tried to convince some family members around the same age as me that they should try mdma. I even asked my brother if he'd do it with me but he got upset at me for bringing it up. He drinks and smokes weed, but anything beyond that he thinks is a 'hard' drug. When someone already has the mindset that it's such a dangerous drug, it's impossible to convince them.
 
Do not give drugs to ppl who do not want to try it. If they are willing and open to try it, good, do not force them. MDMA might not be the worst drug in the world, anyhow, its a drug, ppl react in different ways and you have no idea what type of ppl she is, may be she opens up and ends up being a crack head in a couple of years, wich in someway could be part of your fault, becuase you introduced her to the drug world, I've seen lots of ppl who were totally against drugs at one time, after a couple of years of raving, they turned into coke heads...

Bottom line, I wouldnt insist on trying any type of drug to anyone, at less I know they are totally responsabile and not the kind of ppl who will get lost into the drug world later on...
 
Iv tryed converting people before. Sometimes its like hitting your head against a brick wall though, if they dont want to know then they dont want to know.

However saying that my gf will be trying E for her first time at a festival with me at the weekend. What i have said about mdma has made her want to try it.
 
trancerage said:
Do not give drugs to ppl who do not want to try it.
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This is great advice. Choosing to take any drug should always be a personal choice, and I would always try to avoid being a drug evangelist too.
She knows you're available for advice if she changes her mind.
 
It's unbelievable that people are still making the holes in the brain argument. Every time I hear someone say this, my stomach churns. Unfortunately, some people just can't break through that barrier. I've convinced the majority of the people I know that it can be beneficial if used properly, but there are a few people close to me that no matter how hard I try, they can't be convinced by what I have to say. You win some, you lose some.
 
Ignorant people are always convinced they know everything, so because of that they refuse any facts that challenge their beliefs. They're happy with what they think they know, a fools paradise is a wise mans hell.
 
if you and your friend are willing to spare 50 minutes of your time i highly reccomend watching this documentary called ecstast rising ive watched it and sent it to friends to watch and it has helped convert them, and open their eyes to the beauty and mystery that MDMA holds...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjvNCijeYlI
i hope all goes well and your girl enjoys her first mdma experience given she decides to take it
 
Stupid thread. Don't push drugs on other people. If they want to do it after seeing what it does to you, then they should. If not, they shouldn't. Just because YOU like MDMA doesn't mean they will.
 
I wouldn't feel comfortable convincing someone that taking an E would be "good for them". None of us know what the long term effects of E are. Some people do silly things on Es and get messed up, have a brush with the law, get pregnant etc. I wouldn't want that on my conscience. If someone ASKS then that is different but if they've expressed a contrary opinion then leave them alone.
 
Andronicus said:
I wouldn't feel comfortable convincing someone that taking an E would be "good for them". None of us know what the long term effects of E are. Some people do silly things on Es and get messed up, have a brush with the law, get pregnant etc. I wouldn't want that on my conscience. If someone ASKS then that is different but if they've expressed a contrary opinion then leave them alone.
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You could pretty much say the same about most recreational drugs e.g. alcohol.
 
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