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Interesting Resin (pipe scrapings) harm reduction technique

frizzantik

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I saw this over at 'Ask Ed' on the Cannabis Culture site (which i've ommitted a like to since they have so many links to sources.. im sure google can help out if you'd like to see the original)

Is pipe residue safe to smoke?

Last week my friends and I scraped the residue out of a heavily-used bong. We salvaged some large chunks and rolled it in our palms into a big ball. It was extremely pliable, sticky, smelly, and it melted when we smoked it. It tasted pretty bad. We placed small amounts in the bowl of the bong and took hits. We smoked quite a bit of it and got very stoned. My question is: what is the THC content of residue and what is in it?

John Hall,
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The pipe residue contains THC and other cannabinoids, solid particles such as ash and pyrolitic compounds found in smoke. It is a concentrate of everything you inhale and more, because of the large solid particles that stick to the viscous tar.

The general consensus is that this material is not good for you to smoke. That's because of the foul taste and the compounds that may be carcinogenic or mutagenic created by the burn. They are collected and concentrated in the residue.

I wouldn't go that far. When you smoke a pipe you are inhaling the very same compounds. It's sort of like smoking a roach joint. I don't know if it makes a difference that both the compounds and the THC is concentrated in pipe residue. It takes less of the concentrate to get high.

One way of reducing the amount of ash and other impurities in the pipe resin is to soak it in warm water. The resin loses much of its odor and it looks like some of the ash falls out, too. For best results, press the resin into a thin sheet so that there is more surface-to-mass and more of the resin comes in contact with the water.

I'm not advocating using bong resin, but I know that sometimes there is nothing left and you're down to the proverbial stems and seeds and bong resin. Consider my suggestions a harm reduction strategy. If you have to use the resin, clean it up.

 
It's an interesting idea, but most of the mutagenic material in tar/resin isn't water soluble...
 
Don't smoke it. When you put fire to resin, you're smoking a lot of inactive poisons and what-not. Vapourising it at a lower temperature (like using hot knife technique, or a real vapouriser) is a much easier way of releasing cannabinol from the tar/resin. I say cannabinol, because from the experience of the resin high, I would say there is not that much THC in it, but there are other active cannabinoids.

I use the hot knife method after rolling the pipe scrapings into little balls. It can still be harsh, from the ash and what-not, but this way you can actually TASTE the cannabinoids, and not just dirty "re-bongs" bring burnt. Also using direct flame is going to kill the resin activeness even more.
 
when im desperate ill just dig whatever i have out and smoke that with some bacco. gets me trashed but isn't really a nice stone

might have to try this method next time i'm low, won't be for a while though..'puff puff'
 
I like to stick bugs in the chamber of my pipe then wait a month or so.
then its a goopy black covered peice of yucky weed. gets you ripped though.
 
I have been contemplating the bong resin issue. I have noticed its much harsher and gives me swolen lymphs the day after I smoke it.

I was thinking that bong resin reaches a higher temperature (by an order of magnitude I would assume, butane burns at a high temp) than normal weed would. You apply direct flame for much longer. My theory is that the damaging compounds in the resin are high boiling point molecules that wouldnt normally be vaporized with normal smoking.

Tell me what you think.
 
joey_love_420 said:
I like to stick bugs in the chamber of my pipe then wait a month or so.
then its a goopy black covered peice of yucky weed. gets you ripped though.


what kinda bugs? spiders, crickets, grasshoppers?

heheh, nah i know u meant buds, but its funny reading it


yea chamber weed with reesin is always fun
 
frizzantik said:
Is pipe residue safe to smoke?

We smoked quite a bit of it and got very stoned. My question is: what is the THC content of residue and what is in it?

John Hall,
Internet


In case anyone was wondering about the THC content, it is very little, you mostly get "stoned" because of the other cannabinoids that are in there. If you smoke too much, they will probably give you a monster headache.
 
heh, whenever I used to do this I never really acquired a "proper" high. I would just feel light-headed and that was it. It was nothing compared to smoking nice buds.
 
do people really smoke resin?
im not being an ass, but i just never found pot addicting enough to smoke resin...id wait until i could get nugs.
 
it wasnt meant to be answered...it was more like, "damn i didnt realize people could be so addicted to pot."
 
Better idea: break resin into small pieces, stir into a little warm 99% isopropyl alcohol for a minute, filter alcohol, let alcohol evaporate, scrape up what's left. I'd MUCH rather have a little iso-resin-hash than a lotta dirty resin.
 
^^ i've never had much luck with that, and i'm not sure why. when it evaporates it still leaves behind a lot of dry crusty gunk, and then the end product just isn't very good. not to mention that it takes forever to evaporate the alcohol unless you do it in a pan, and then you have to scrape the result off of a larger area.
 
synthetic sunrise said:
^^ i've never had much luck with that, and i'm not sure why. when it evaporates it still leaves behind a lot of dry crusty gunk, and then the end product just isn't very good. not to mention that it takes forever to evaporate the alcohol unless you do it in a pan, and then you have to scrape the result off of a larger area.
agreed, I cant get this method to work well either. The result is some liquidy black shit that is difficult to get off of your evap dish and tough to smoke. Might be good if you can find a way to vaporize it. (freebasing it off the foil didnt get me high at all just tasted terrible).
 
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