Misc Insomnia (Gabapentin, Eszopiclone, Quetiapine, etc…)

[pnillyg]

Hey everybody. I’ve been having extreme insomnia after coming off of ~400mg oxycodone daily. It has been exactly a month since my last pharmaceutical opiate (Ibogaine detox in Tijuana was successful but not as helpful as it was is 2023). I have been dosing Kratom 1-3 x weekly at 4-10gs per dose. My insomnia is at an all time bad and my doctors have put me on just about everything in the last month. (Trazodone, Mirtazapine, Ambien (zolpidem), Lunesta (eszopiclone), Seroquel (quetiapine), Gabapentin, and that’s only the sleep meds… During the day to stay off of opiates and benzos (clonazepam & diazepam) I use cannabis, ketamine SL, and the occasional amphetamine (Adderall) as well as the occasional Kratom dose (trying to keep it to weekends or at least less than 3 x per week as mentioned before. Anyways. I need some help getting off of everything (thats when I’m happiest) but I do need sleep. Not perfect sleep and not every night. I can thug out bad withdrawals (CT’d 16mg buprenorphine along with 30mg diazepam back in early 2023) so that’s not necessarily a worry but I need to be able to function. Not well but enough to complete daily tasks such as feeding myself and the occcasional drive to the grocery store. Anyways any and all help would be appreciated and there is much more to the story if anybody needs more info but yea for now that’s what I got for y’all. Hope everybody is having a good day. Peace and love from the USA…

 

[9Bar_of_Jenkem]

Everytime I need to sober up after an opioid relapse I take 5 grams of kratom thrice daily for about 10 days.

I use olanzapine to fix my insomnia.

You could ask you doctor for lyrica.

300mg of lyrica twice per day really helps.

Honestly weed and kratom are the safest and are significantly helpful.

I used both to come off 1,200mg of oxy daily which I boosted with 60mg of oramorph every 4 hours.

Personally if I can tame the anxiety and Insomnia then the rest is bearable if one just chills or sleeps it off.

In saying that I relapsed again recently and can't get any opioids bar heroin so I'm quitting.

I'm doing one line of racemic amphetamine sulphate every 4 hours and so far no troubles or negative symptoms.

 

[pnillyg]

Everytime I need to sober up after an opioid relapse I take 5 grams of kratom thrice daily for about 10 days.

I use olanzapine to fix my insomnia.

You could ask you doctor for lyrica.

300mg of lyrica twice per day really helps.

Honestly weed and kratom are the safest and are significantly helpful.

I used both to come off 1,200mg of oxy daily which I boosted with 60mg of oramorph every 4 hours.

Personally if I can tame the anxiety and Insomnia then the rest is bearable if one just chills or sleeps it off.

In saying that I relapsed again recently and can't get any opioids bar heroin so I'm quitting.

I'm doing one line of racemic amphetamine sulphate every 4 hours and so far no troubles or negative symptoms.

Thank you for the advice… what does the Lyrica help you with (it’s basically strong gabapentin right)? And I’ve never heard of olanzapine what would that be helpful with? It seems similar to Seroquel but more like an benzo no? Also when you dose the kratom are you able to get off of that or is it used more of an MAT kind of situation?

 

[9Bar_of_Jenkem]

Well you know how there's uppers, downers and all rounders?

Well lyrica is an all rounder and has many attributes similar to many other drugs.

It's kinda like drinking two beers, taking a valium d10, painkiller, muscle relaxer, mild dissociative, non tweaky stimulant, etc

It just makes me feel great and I work like an unstoppable machine on 600mg of lyrica.

It has literally zero side effects bar one.

After binging on it for days my left eyelid twitches which is pretty irratiting and undesirable in a social setting as its pretty obvious.

Yeah it's like gabapentin on steroids but more stimulating.

AFAIK olanzapine is remarkably similar to seroquel.
I just keep taking 5gram doses of kratom till I run out after 7-10 days and then go fully sober. I get practically zero withdrawals.

Maybe some fatigue, mild flu like symptoms and a hint of anxiety but it's so mild I'm able to keep working and not need a detox or to be locked In a room to withdraw.

Easy peasy.

 

[pnillyg]

Wow ok good to know and thanks for the help. Assuming you build tolerance to Lyrica or have to taper? Also what’s the reason somebody typically would be prescribed it for? Would love to get my hands on some. As far as insomnia goes any advice there? Current nightly dose has been at 2-3mg Lunesta (eszopiclone) along with 25-100mgs of Seroquel as I’m in the process of getting off of my sleep meds (trying to rid my body from any physical dependence). Tonight Doctor has me dropping the Lunesta to 1mg, staying the same with gabapentin but increasing the seroquel to s steady 100mgs. The goal is to go down on Lunesta then taper gabapentin and seroquel once I’m on a good schedule. Wish me luck for tonight. Already feel the RLS kicking in.

 

[pnillyg]

Anybody have advice for my insomnia now that i take just kratom im considering Lunesta or gabapentin or both depending if i have RLS that night with the sleepless mind???. Can’t do remeron or trazodone right now it’s too numbing,,, seroquel works but also makes me a zombie. Any suggestions would be epic

 

[pnillyg]

Let me know fam. Been dealing with chronic pain and would love some suggestions

 

[ovo1024]

Anybody have advice for my insomnia now that i take just kratom im considering Lunesta or gabapentin or both depending if i have RLS that night with the sleepless mind???. Can’t do remeron or trazodone right now it’s too numbing,,, seroquel works but also makes me a zombie. Any suggestions would be epic

Bro that's freaking crazy that despite taking 2-3mg of Lunesta, and upwards of 100mg of Seroquel, you're STILL having difficulties getting enough sleep each night.. Like I totally understand the part about detoxing off a heavy oxycodone addiction, because I've withdrawaled off a decent daily IV heroin habit once, and two separate times had to basically cold turkey a moderate Fentanyl addiction as well. And every time i went through that I couldn't sleep hardly at all. Even after over 2 months being completely clean, I was only averaging 4-5 hours of sleep throughout the night. But I had NO sleep aid medication like you do. And the ones you are on, are some pretty heavy meds lol

 

[pnillyg]

Yea I need sedatives for a large animal unless I have ganja which I can’t use right now…

 

[daturetard]

Seroquel is a stronger sedative the lower dose you take. Try going down to maybe 25 mg over a few days and see if it helps. (I wouldn't do this if you're dependent, it would take weeks to taper down that far comfortably)

 

[Coffeeshroom]

If you can get scripted any benzo or have access to them. Then I suggest the following combo

20mg temazepam
.250mg triazolam

 

[pnillyg]

Seroquel is a stronger sedative the lower dose you take. Try going down to maybe 25 mg over a few days and see if it helps. (I wouldn't do this if you're dependent, it would take weeks to taper down that far comfortably)

Dependent on what? Eszopiclone?

If you can get scripted any benzo or have access to them. Then I suggest the following combo

20mg temazepam
.250mg triazolam

im prescribed clonazepam and diazepam…. But they last like 2 days for me (they be having me feel like a zombie)

 

[negrogesic]

Anybody have advice for my insomnia now that i take just kratom im considering Lunesta or gabapentin or both depending if i have RLS that night with the sleepless mind???. Can’t do remeron or trazodone right now it’s too numbing,,, seroquel works but also makes me a zombie. Any suggestions would be epic

Take the seroquel sublingually, right before bed. Crush in mouth and hold under tongue. Reduces next day hangover.

 

[Henry69]

Zopiclone doesn't make you feel crap the next day...

 

[daturetard]

The antipsychotic

Dependent on what?

 

[garygroundwork]

seroquel..best sleep
but you are compleyetly fucked the next day

zoplicone
fine in the morning

mealtonan
not strong enough

tamazapam great but hard to get