INSANE MDMA DOSE 600mg+ (3 Teslas) TRIPPING on MDMA

[Chaacliff]

Over the past year or so i have been using MDMA very responsibly spacing my uses out to at least a minimum of one month, usually leaning more towards two months most times using mdma. i was always cautious with dosage and never went above 250mg as a 220lb male. I know for afact that these pills are genuine pure tested MDMA as they were sourced through reputible means,and re agent tested as well. the first pill went down no problem. your usual high quality roll. music imploding the essence of your being when it hits you,love so much love, and dancing.

+t4h we decide to head to an afterparty at a local club. i have never tried to extend my roll past this mark as all my reading has shown that without available serotonin these large redoses will do nothing but add to the stimulating effects. well let me tell you something...an entire second pill had me in an entire new zone i have never been to before. i was completley enebriated..the mdma clarity vanished and i was strait knackered. touch felt like an explosion of nerves firing through my body. it felt as if i was radiating energy. now as the night wore on i ended up taking a third tesla.

t+7h at this point it is mainly stimulating still some loved up feelings but nothing compared to the first drop. now this is were things turned strait up facinating and really made my night. im umder the assumption that enough mdma was converted into mda to make for some extremely vivid halucinations. these hallucinations are unlike classic psychadelics. peoples faces would morph and shift shapes into a completley new person. the overlying theme of the night and my halucinations was haloween. everyone apperared to take on such menacing and disturbing appearancrs. people would grow large fangs, extremely vivid and detailed whiskers and horns growing from there faces as well. at first this struck my by surprise, but while still under the mdmas comferting blanket i was not phased. after realising the amount of pure mdma i had consumed over the night i finally put two amd two together. the rest of the night was literally spent dancing my ass off with diabolical creatures and a dja head that would contstantly change into the jason character mask from haloween. sorry if the reports a bit scattered typing this on my phone amd well lets face it after anyone takes 600mg of mdma there not going to feel right after.


taking a LONG break from mdma...psychadelics will have to hold me over

 

[Kaleida]

Hey, thanks for sharing. Sounds like you had a fun night.

I don't know anything about these Teslas, but I can tell you for sure that people are always underestimating the psychedelic potential of MDMA. And yes, I mean MDMA itself; you can trip off of an amount that won't even metabolize into half a threshold dose of MDA, if you treat it right. MDMA has all the same binding at 5-HT2A as MDA and other psychedelics as well, it just happens to even more potent as an empathogen, so people overlook it.

Many years ago a friend of mine knew someone who was making MDMA for themselves, and he managed to get some good doses off of him while it lasted. What he did not tell us is that they were dosed at 350 mg each! We just happily took two capsules each and then divided up and insufflated another. What followed was a few hours of an extremely strong roll, and then about seven or eight hours of full-blown psychedelic tripping. While it's true that there likely was a decently active dose of MDA created in my body at that point, this was way above what I would expect from it still. There were strong patterns, tracers, distortions, and all that, and then also the delirious types of hallucinations you describe, except to the point that I was breaking into complete dream worlds every thirty seconds or so. Smoking cannabis only made it like ten times more intense as well.... Those were still the strongest open eye hallucinations I have gotten to this day, things that seemingly broke the logic of the real world around them.

It is in no way recommended because that much MDMA is not good for you, but it was a crazy experience. For future reference, even if you just take like 100 mg or so, if you start meditating and smoking cannabis around four hours in you should be able to bring out this psychedelic side again. At least, that's enough for me.

 

[inner ear]

MDMA starts breaking down into MDA toward the end of a trip so you start seeing tons of morphing and shadowplay and vibrant colours and trailing

 

[Kaleida]

Barely any of the MDMA dose is converted to MDA, like 10% or less according to most studies. That means you'd need at least 500 mg of MDMA to get a barely active dose of MDA on a good night.

 

[inner ear]

You are correct but 10 percent might still be enough depending. MDMA is very psychedelic and on its own can cause lots of warping and distortions but at a dose like this it's possible that it could be enough for threshold MDA effects as it converted. I've had multiple 500+ mg trips and even a 1.4 gram trip were I had very fun 'spooky' type hallucinations and they were of separate distinctions than those i've gotten from mdma. A lot of 'unraveling' type hallucinations and complex ones, not just mdma's general semi lsd-like visual enhancements. Weed on mdma is extremely pleasant and stoning and very +++ psychedelic!! Love taking deeper and deeper hits while getting the wobbles. I feel like weed is also very neuroprotective for any sort of stimulant highs, could be wrong on that though..but it doesn't feel like that theory is wrong, at all

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[Kaleida]

Well, to be honest though, it really can't.... I was mostly being generous when I said 10%. Here is a link to a study which just came out a couple weeks ago, which detected MDMA metabolites in humans after a 125 mg dose. If you look at this chart they have here...

...it is clear that literally almost none of it metabolizes into MDA.

I personally think that MDMA's activity alone is completely sufficient to account for its psychedelic effects. This older study, for example, shows (R)-MDMA and (R)-MDA to have nearly identical affinity for 5-HT2A. And talking about the unraveling and complex hallucinations you speak of, I can get those even on 100 mg in the right setting.

 

[inner ear]

Oh awesome!! Thank you! Learning something new then! Long time ago I read that anywhere from 2-20 percent was left as the psychedelic metabolite. Constant topic of debate. Figured ten sounds about right. Ah well maybe my hallucinations had a lot to do with just the high doses of mdma consumed but towards the end of the roll the hallucinations would get stronger and stronger. Lot of shadowplay honestly. But not shadow people or psychosis setting in. A really cool filter to the world, felt very distinct. Maybe it was all the metabolites at once? Probably not. Like the walls were waving like ocean waves curling and looked wine coloured and the shadows kept dimming like slow undulations and then looking like dark colours, purplish black and blues and mauve. Like a long dress billowing on the walls that was the walls. Very lsd ripple like but distinct. Was sure it was MDA!! Like 5-6 hours in after dropping it would begin. Standing in a garden felt very cool and I knew I was having a second trip basically. None of the paranoia or peripheral flickering or delusional thoughts. A little strung out however..that could be it..felt very magical though

 

[Kaleida]

I totally understand your mindset. Allow me to drop a thought on you.

These psychedelic amphetamines...

...all take three to six hours for their psychedelic effects to kick in. Why should this one...

...be expected to be any different?

Maybe the empathogenic effects are just more noticeable early on because they're stronger and they drain our neurotransmitters more quickly, but that wouldn't stop the rest of its activity from slowly building up in the background.

 

[inner ear]

Yes they're very similar indeed. Which ones on top are those? Makes me want to take a refresher course on molecules again. These structures are simply magical! Everything being a great pattern and certain chemical patterns that we can create are like perfect fitting keys of blissful activation!! I always forget how there's tons of processes running in the background. Stuff is really complex and beautiful

 

[Kaleida]

Those ones would be DOB (top left), bromo-dragonfly (bottom left), and DOPR (right). And yes, I agree that it is quite amazing. There's really nothing that fascinates me more than the way that different psychedelics (and drugs in general) interact with the brain.

 

[Chaacliff]

thank you for dropping that knowledge on me. I was always under the assumption that a percentage of MDMA converted into MDA over time as well. Interesting ! On a side note, i feel almost 100% back to normal.

This was the first post MDMA experience were i experienced classic ecstacy comedown symptoms. Clearly related to both the very high dosage and frequency of use.

 

[Kaleida]

No problem, and yeah, it's been a pretty common assumption until recently. We haven't really had much data against it until lately either. I personally had some suspicion though, especially because of how I said the doses effect me.... These days I honestly kind of think of MDMA as just more of a mescaline-like drug that just has a strong come up, and then a very relaxed trip.

Yep, those high doses will get you! Just take some time off though and I'm sure you'll be fine. I really don't think they're anywhere near as bad as people make them out to be, just a sign to slow down really.

 

[Chaacliff]

Always nice to talk to someone well informed on the subject for a change ^^ Ill let this fade into nothingness now. Will be posting an experience report in 2-3 months time for my sisters first "rave" and mdma experience. Absolutley cant wait for a family bonding experience that many will go to the grave not experiencing..sad world we live in. I can pop perscription pills and drink myself to sleep everynight with no reprive...but god forbid i want to share the mdma connection with my loved ones...lol at society

 

[Kaleida]

That sounds very interesting, I would definitely like to read that when you do post it! I have some experience with family & MDMA myself, but not quite like that. I don't have any siblings, and I have to imagine that relationship allows an extra dimension to the experience. It is indeed a strange world we live in, but I think there is still hope for the future with the amount of underground and research popularity that MDMA still has!