Injection; IV Complications and Information MEGATHREAD and FAQ II - show me the blood

[phatass]

i slipped out of the vein the other day, towards the end of the plunger going in, it swoll up, became red, and painfull to the touch...

i called my doc and he said to put a 60%proof alchohol on a cotton or whatever, and wrap it round where it hurts

 

[Korn3x]

^^
dam u must have a really understanding doc lol

 

[John_Burrows]

Actually I think most docs would be happy to help you out with a problem, but after that they'd want to try and get you REAL help by getting you off drugs. And if it was a doc that was prescribing you the meds you were abusing, kiss them goodbye!

ABOUT MISSING SHOTS/SWELLING: First of all, if you miss a shot you will have clear signs long before you finish injecting. With me, if I've unwittingly missed a vein, the skin where I'm shooting starts to swell up immediately, usually the size of a dime or nickel (which later turns much much bigger). Anyway the point is, if you inject slowly and in a well lit room and pay attention, you'll know you've missed before you get halfway through injecting, so just pull out at the first sign of trouble! You'll minimize the damage and, of course, save most of your shot for the other arm

If you missed and begin to swell, they say to apply a warm compress, which does work, but I recently found that running your arm under hot water (hot as you can take without burning yourself) is much more effective. The problem with the compress is it cools down so fast, you have to keep reheating, so the amount of time the affected area actually keeps warm is minimal.

I leave my arm under the tap for 3-5 mins, take a break for a minute or two, then go back under the tap. I do this 3 or 4 times and within a few hours the swelling dramatically goes down. The few times this has happened to me, if I follow these instructions, by the next morning I'm nearly back to normal.

And I also hit on a GREAT way to cut the amount of time it takes for track marks to heal IN HALF. I just posted it to this thread, so take a look:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=8565673#post8565673

Basically, use some vitamin E under a warm compress after every shot - injection spots will heal much faster.

One way I think I can tell if I'm in a vein is it seems to hurt more when I actually press the needle in. Is it my imagination? Do veins have nerves? Because I can swear that when I inject and i properly register, the poke hurts a little more than when I've missed.

 

[linzlandexpress]

Blood in Shot

Here's the basics of my question - Does blood dilute your shot to the point of making it almost none effective? I had a 1cc syringe, 16 units of water. Put the water on my dope (ice/meth) and it made 30. It just about doubled up, so I thought that meant I had good stuff. I have never done that much, so I put 5 units in another syringe for later. That left me with 25 units. I am too nervous to hit myself so my friend does it for me. He started on the backside of my arm. Registered once and filled the syringe with blood.....I wanna say to the 40 units line. Started to inject, it started burning, so I told him to stop. He might have got 5 units in at the max. Changed into a new syringe, blood and all. He hit me, registered making it about at 45 units, and proceeded to inject. Stopped half way thru, registered again, and finished. I got a slight burn/rise in my chest (classic sign of a good meth-amphetamine hit) during the first half of the injection. But after the second half I didn't really feal anything. No rise, no cough, alittle light headed, kinda dizzy. That was 3 hours ago. I'm still not very high and could prolly take a nap right now......This was my fist shot in about two days. Slept well last night, ate today. What happened? Was it too diluted? How could I have filtered the blood out?

 

[Georgie25]

Here's the basics of my question - Does blood dilute your shot to the point of making it almost none effective? I had a 1cc syringe, 16 units of water. Put the water on my dope (ice/meth) and it made 30. It just about doubled up, so I thought that meant I had good stuff. I have never done that much, so I put 5 units in another syringe for later. That left me with 25 units. I am too nervous to hit myself so my friend does it for me. He started on the backside of my arm. Registered once and filled the syringe with blood.....I wanna say to the 40 units line. Started to inject, it started burning, so I told him to stop. He might have got 5 units in at the max. Changed into a new syringe, blood and all. He hit me, registered making it about at 45 units, and proceeded to inject. Stopped half way thru, registered again, and finished. I got a slight burn/rise in my chest (classic sign of a good meth-amphetamine hit) during the first half of the injection. But after the second half I didn't really feal anything. No rise, no cough, alittle light headed, kinda dizzy. That was 3 hours ago. I'm still not very high and could prolly take a nap right now......This was my fist shot in about two days. Slept well last night, ate today. What happened? Was it too diluted? How could I have filtered the blood out?

I've never noticed having the blood sit in with the dope for a long long time having any effect on the shot...it can sometimes take a half hour + trying to find a vein and having the blood sit in it and see no difference. Idk why you didnt't feel it though. You cant take the blood out once it's in unfortunately. But if it starts to coagulate then you can re filter that out at least.

 

[tythefly]

IV Roxi 30 cant move hand/fingers!! so scared

i have injected about 20 roxi's over the past week in my left arm... above elbow. i did my last one and i woke up and my hand was numb. i couldnt move my fingers and my thumb is completely numb! sry typing w one hand now. i wont ever shoot oc's! does ne1 know what is going on? its been 2 hrs and i still cant move fingers.... help plz!

 

[Keif' Richards]

go to the hospital!

 

[ektamine]

1st subject:

Here's the basics of my question - Does blood dilute your shot to the point of making it almost none effective? I had a 1cc syringe, 16 units of water. Put the water on my dope (ice/meth) and it made 30. It just about doubled up, so I thought that meant I had good stuff. I have never done that much, so I put 5 units in another syringe for later. That left me with 25 units. I am too nervous to hit myself so my friend does it for me. He started on the backside of my arm. Registered once and filled the syringe with blood.....I wanna say to the 40 units line. Started to inject, it started burning, so I told him to stop. He might have got 5 units in at the max. Changed into a new syringe, blood and all. He hit me, registered making it about at 45 units, and proceeded to inject. Stopped half way thru, registered again, and finished. I got a slight burn/rise in my chest (classic sign of a good meth-amphetamine hit) during the first half of the injection. But after the second half I didn't really feal anything. No rise, no cough, alittle light headed, kinda dizzy. That was 3 hours ago. I'm still not very high and could prolly take a nap right now......This was my fist shot in about two days. Slept well last night, ate today. What happened? Was it too diluted? How could I have filtered the blood out?

"Holy jesus!" Are the first words that come to mind after reading this. I would say the majority of intravenous harm reduction information given out is about ELIMINATING blood-to-blood contact, and thereby reducing disease and infection spread. I really hope this is one of your most trusted friends, and that you are both have up-to-date health records showing you as being major-blood-transferred-disease free. Even then, when regarding intravenous injection, blood should NEVER be shared. Not to mention *sitting* blood can accumulate all kinds of bacteria and nasties of the sort. Even your own blood should only be recycled when fresh (i.e. immediately). Only do when needed (for example registering a shot with a plume of blood but then slipping out/through the vein and having to start over, preferably with a new needle, immediately.


2nd subject:

Does anyone have any information / personal experiences / warnings about regular IV use of MDPV? I'm currently enduring an on-and-off binge, been going for weeks now with 1-3 day rests (mostly to control stimulant psychosis, ahhh!). The only 'severe' (and not more so than many other stims) side effect I notice so far that seems pretty dramatically different with IV use is the vasoconstriction, mostly in the site / surrounding areas of the injection. And of course addiction potential. But thats the needle not the drug.

 

[skoat]

You hit an artery. Go to the hospital or sit around and wait until your hand turns black and starts rotting.

You cannot fix this.

 

[tlks2Angels]

GO to the ER! that should have been common sense as soon as you couldnt move your fingers ...thats def. not normal...ive been IV-ing heroin and OC's for a while and never had paralysis....go get some help asap!

 

[Foul Play]

Get to the ER. Go yesterday. The chances of your body overcoming this on it's own are slim.

 

[blackjesus]

while we're on topic of this artery thing, im always worried about hitting an artery in my arm as well, i thought there werent any major arteries located in the body around the arm (with the biggest worry being in the femurical artery and i dont shoot up in my leg)

i get paranoid that im going to hit an artery and especially a valve because i cant grasp the concept of what they look like and how to find them (the whole run your finger up your veing looking for spots that turn white method)

 

[Keif' Richards]

while we're on topic of this artery thing, im always worried about hitting an artery in my arm as well, i thought there werent any major arteries located in the body around the arm (with the biggest worry being in the femurical artery and i dont shoot up in my leg)

i get paranoid that im going to hit an artery and especially a valve because i cant grasp the concept of what they look like and how to find them (the whole run your finger up your veing looking for spots that turn white method)

There are arteries everywhere, to simplify it, where there are veins there has to be arteries right? Hitting an artery isn't really a maybe I did, and maybe I didn't thing. It's extremely painful. Vein's are a lot easier to find then arteries, especially on your arm. It's when you run out of good places that you go deeper and risk finding an artery. It's nothing to be paranoid about just be careful, and if it happens it happens and you're gonna need medical attention. Rotating spots is common sense that will help prevent this

 

[blackjesus]

right but do arteries exist inside veins, beneath them? im trying to understand how (and yes i rotate) i could be trying to enter my vein and strike an artery...

 

[toastedpanda]

Sounds like you hit a nerve to me, I've slept on my arm wrong and pinched my radial nerve, top of hand/thumb was numb. I could grip, but not lift my wrist or fingers. At first I thought it was from a shot I did before falling asleep but the damage was on the "bottom" of my bicept (the tricept?).

I think I was so buzzed I slept the whole night in a bad position/on my arm, you can do some real damage when passed out on yourself.

Not sure of this is the case for you, could be worse or better. But you need to see a doctor ASAP, it took alot of expensive diagnostics and nuerosurgery to get it fixed for me. So if you like being able to work/independence or even want to shoot up in more than one arm, talk to a doc.

I would go to an urgent care place now incase. it is an artery o something worse.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

right but do arteries exist inside veins, beneath them? im trying to understand how (and yes i rotate) i could be trying to enter my vein and strike an artery...

The femoral vein is right above the femoral artery.

Arteries are not inside veins.

Closer to the extremities, the veins and arteries run closer together for the most part.

i have injected about 20 roxi's over the past week in my left arm... above elbow. i did my last one and i woke up and my hand was numb. i couldnt move my fingers and my thumb is completely numb! sry typing w one hand now. i wont ever shoot oc's! does ne1 know what is going on? its been 2 hrs and i still cant move fingers.... help plz!

Everyone told you to go to the ER and I will too, please get some medical assistance. Best of luck.

-> IV Complications...

 

[Fuzati]

Sounds like you hit a nerve to me, I've slept on my arm wrong and pinched my radial nerve, top of hand/thumb was numb. I could grip, but not lift my wrist or fingers. At first I thought it was from a shot I did before falling asleep but the damage was on the "bottom" of my bicept (the tricept?).

I think I was so buzzed I slept the whole night in a bad position/on my arm, you can do some real damage when passed out on yourself.

Wow.
The exact same thing happened to me when i passed out drunk on my desk and slept with my head on my arm.. I "crushed" my radial nerve, couldn't move my arm and my thumb (all the arm, but especially the fingers) was numb. I went straight to the hospital.
It took me months (about 5 if I recall) of réeducation (sp?), going to the kinésithérapeute daily (don't know the name in english sorry, but they send electric shocks in your arm to revive your nerve) and now my arm is perfectly fine, but it scared me so bad.

 

[Rhisper]

Sounds like you hit a nerve to me, I've slept on my arm wrong and pinched my radial nerve, top of hand/thumb was numb. I could grip, but not lift my wrist or fingers. At first I thought it was from a shot I did before falling asleep but the damage was on the "bottom" of my bicept (the tricept?).

I think I was so buzzed I slept the whole night in a bad position/on my arm, you can do some real damage when passed out on yourself.

Not sure of this is the case for you, could be worse or better. But you need to see a doctor ASAP, it took alot of expensive diagnostics and nuerosurgery to get it fixed for me. So if you like being able to work/independence or even want to shoot up in more than one arm, talk to a doc.

I would go to an urgent care place now incase. it is an artery o something worse.

I had pretty much the exact same thing happen to me; shot up, nodded out and fell asleep, and then woke up and my hand was useless. I guess I was luckier though, I went to the ER and got like a fabric and metal cast for my hand to hold it in place, and the nerve seems to have healed without any surgery or anything, and I can now use my hand again.

If this was your issue and not something worse, for me it was completely absent of pain or any noticeable inflammation. If you have anything but numbness and cannot use your hand, you're in trouble and should hit up the ER real quick. If you hit or damaged a nerve, the ER probably isn't a bad idea either.

 

[tythefly]

I had pretty much the exact same thing happen to me; shot up, nodded out and fell asleep, and then woke up and my hand was useless. I guess I was luckier though, I went to the ER and got like a fabric and metal cast for my hand to hold it in place, and the nerve seems to have healed without any surgery or anything, and I can now use my hand again.

If this was your issue and not something worse, for me it was completely absent of pain or any noticeable inflammation. If you have anything but numbness and cannot use your hand, you're in trouble and should hit up the ER real quick. If you hit or damaged a nerve, the ER probably isn't a bad idea either.

how long did ur healing take?

they gave me batrim, keflex mortin, and a splint to hold my wrist straight. they said its 'common' in south florida. they said it will heal but cant say how long... ill keep updating progress.... typing with one hand!!! UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!

look up drop wrist... i hope this doesnt last long, this sucks. im never shooting up oc's again.

 

[gibby_420]

Result of bad IV technique:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZGkO2xYcEU