Ummm calling it sound is more than a stretch. I can't tell you why it's not going to work because even one step of the synth is against the rules. The birch reaction,however, DOES work, but you start with Annie.. The anhydrous part is pretty important.
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Harm Reduction Injection; IV Complications and Info MEGATHREAD & FAQ III Vs I Want Blood
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Mr.Scagnattie
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Moving this to IV complications.
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I really appreciate all the work that has been put into this guide, but this information is simply incorrect. There are even some pretty large arteries, e.g. the Artt vertebrales that can be chronically obstructed without much consequence. Admittedly the brain is very special in this respect,
Nonetheless there collateral paths to allow for arterial bloodflow usually exist.
Source: http://circres.ahajournals.org/content/99/6/567.full
I agree though that it's not a bad idea to pretend this does not happen and play it safe.
I think he is right, that is how I always bruise up when I IV stuff in a drunken stupor, too. And trust me, it usually looks much worse than in those shots!!! Oh and best don't get worked up over stupid shit like what that guy up there said, man. It ain't worth it and if we are honest, it isn't very clever to shoot shake n bake meth, whatever that may be... You'll probably lol at it in retrospect someday as well.
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FastRaceCarGuy
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Need help shooting morphine saftley
Syringes : insulin syringes ? Or what kind am I supposed to get. Also I have a 300 mg oxy tolerance so how many mg of morphine do I need? Also please give me tips and tricks on how to properly shoot. I have alot of knowledge on how to draw blood. Any advice is appreciated.
Syringes : insulin syringes ? Or what kind am I supposed to get. Also I have a 300 mg oxy tolerance so how many mg of morphine do I need? Also please give me tips and tricks on how to properly shoot. I have alot of knowledge on how to draw blood. Any advice is appreciated.
Psychedelic Jay
Bluelighter
31 gauge 1cc/ml insulin syringes...
Always point the needle in the direction of blood flow... Towards you... Just like you are taught to do...
I would highly reconsider your choice especially if you have anything other than pure powder. It is quite difficult and not worth it to build a dependence shooting opiates.
It is a lot less manageable then oral or rectal administration...
Always point the needle in the direction of blood flow... Towards you... Just like you are taught to do...
I would highly reconsider your choice especially if you have anything other than pure powder. It is quite difficult and not worth it to build a dependence shooting opiates.
It is a lot less manageable then oral or rectal administration...
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
If you know how to draw blood, you know how to IV. The only added step is actually pushing down the plunger once you've registered.. so if you have experience drawing blood, IV'ing should be no problem.
Look into a micron filter if you're going to be IV'ing pills. They are very bad for your veins and overall health.
^ this...
IVing is a little different, but is basically the same thing. when i inject drugs, i load the syringe, then i push the syringe in a little bit, and draw back to create a vacuum so to speak, then i push deeper and when i hit the vein, blood silhouettes into the syringe...or if you dont have good veins the blood will slowly ooze in hahah. then once you get blood, you release the tourniquet if you have one on, re-register, and push plunger so half of the solution in your syringe enters your body. then draw back again to make sure you still have blood, and push the rest of the solution in.
if you miss a little bit, get a rag or towel and wet it with hot water, then hold the hot towel on the site of injection where you missed. you can massage it a little with the rag; make sure you keep the hot towel on the site of injection for a good 5-10mins. also, i advise investing in some hydrogen peroxide and some neosporin. after every shot i wet a paper towl or tissue with the hydrogen peroxide and clean the site of injection, then i put the neosporin on the site to deter any abscess from forming. neosporin will really help if you miss, but i used it every time. it also made me rotate sites because i wouldnt shoot up where the neosporin was.
IVing is a little different, but is basically the same thing. when i inject drugs, i load the syringe, then i push the syringe in a little bit, and draw back to create a vacuum so to speak, then i push deeper and when i hit the vein, blood silhouettes into the syringe...or if you dont have good veins the blood will slowly ooze in hahah. then once you get blood, you release the tourniquet if you have one on, re-register, and push plunger so half of the solution in your syringe enters your body. then draw back again to make sure you still have blood, and push the rest of the solution in.
if you miss a little bit, get a rag or towel and wet it with hot water, then hold the hot towel on the site of injection where you missed. you can massage it a little with the rag; make sure you keep the hot towel on the site of injection for a good 5-10mins. also, i advise investing in some hydrogen peroxide and some neosporin. after every shot i wet a paper towl or tissue with the hydrogen peroxide and clean the site of injection, then i put the neosporin on the site to deter any abscess from forming. neosporin will really help if you miss, but i used it every time. it also made me rotate sites because i wouldnt shoot up where the neosporin was.
tricomb
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Always be sterile. Isopropyl Alcohol the injection site PRIOR to injection, and keep EVERYTHING that comes in contact with the solution that you are going to put into your body bypassing EVERY defense mechanism the human body possesses, you're also going to need the right kind of filters. Cotton is insufficient, especially for pharmaceutical injection.
Invest in sterile micron filters, you can easily find them via searching the internet. I would highly recommend the 0.2um micron filters as the final filter, and if you can afford it, also get some .45um or 1um micron filters to use as a pre-filter because there is so much junk in pills and street drugs.
The only needles you should ever use should be needles that are still sterile and in their wrapper, always inspect the syringes before using them. NEVER re-use or share a needle. USE ONCE AND DESTROY.
Invest in sterile micron filters, you can easily find them via searching the internet. I would highly recommend the 0.2um micron filters as the final filter, and if you can afford it, also get some .45um or 1um micron filters to use as a pre-filter because there is so much junk in pills and street drugs.
The only needles you should ever use should be needles that are still sterile and in their wrapper, always inspect the syringes before using them. NEVER re-use or share a needle. USE ONCE AND DESTROY.
dopemegently
Bluelighter
I wish I'd have read this years ago; poor injection technique and education butchered my poor veins.( haven't done it for years though).
If I'm ever tempted, I just remember the time I shot into an artery, and hit a nerve there once (Christ, the stupidity!) blinding pain. Arm like a balloon, as red as a lobster.
If I'm ever tempted, I just remember the time I shot into an artery, and hit a nerve there once (Christ, the stupidity!) blinding pain. Arm like a balloon, as red as a lobster.
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
^^
Yeah, tagging an artery is not fun.
Yeah, tagging an artery is not fun.
dopemegently
Bluelighter
When you can feel the crap burning into the tiny capillaries in your hand...it's not good. The dumb thing is that I knew it was an artery, but there were no veins left. If anyone asks me "should I shoot", I tell them it's not worth it.
lukeyluke216
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Please help!!!
HELP PLEASE!!!! hello, i am new to this site and i was wondering if someon can give me information? i have been shooting in the vein that runs along your forearm by your hand and 4 days ago i noticed a hard bump in the crease of my elbow? i dont know why its there because i dont shoot there. could it be cause because the vein in my forearm runs up there? please help
HELP PLEASE!!!! hello, i am new to this site and i was wondering if someon can give me information? i have been shooting in the vein that runs along your forearm by your hand and 4 days ago i noticed a hard bump in the crease of my elbow? i dont know why its there because i dont shoot there. could it be cause because the vein in my forearm runs up there? please help
leiphos
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My friend has an issue where when he IVs, some clear liquid - presumably part of the dose - leaks out of the site during or immediately after administration. He does not remove the tourniquet until after the shot is in, otherwise he misses. Is this the cause? And if so, how are you able to remain in the vein after releasing the tourniquet? Thanks for help.
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
It could be the cause, yes. IV'ing with the tie on is bad because you're injecting against all of this pressure caused by the tourniquet. You can blow a vein like that, as well as or at the same time, have some leakage.
The easiest way to IV and loosen the tie before hand is to create a slip knot, that way you can just pull the slack with your mouth and you don't have to move your hands.
Yes, it's all explained in the initial post. Your veins are a low pressure system. The blood moves through them towards the heart because the heart sucks it out of them while pumping it out into the arteries, creating higher pressure there. If you cut off your veionous blood flow by applying pressure to them with a tourniquet, the system doesn't work that way anymore and blood is caught up in the veins while more is supplied to them from the arteries. Pressure rises and blood will leak out if there is a hole somewhere in the vein. This would usually not happen because the blood is always subject to being sucked further upstream towards the heart.
I don't see why he would miss the shot when removing the pressure. His technique should've lead to a considerable amount of bruising and pain already due to fluid leaking right back out when attempting to force even more volume into the vein.
SpinningFree
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To heat or not to heat?
Question on heating before drawing the solution through a filter (I have a micron). I'm using dilaudid and I crushed enough, added enough water to make it a decent consistency and I am about to draw the solution through the micron filter into the syringe. Then I'll change the tip to get a much finer gauge and screw it on before shooting. Anyway, say I'm using a spoon that has been cleaned with soap, water, then alcohol.... should I flame the solution? The person who "taught" me to shoot said to do it, although I didn't do anything until I read most of the information on this site. Still having a hard time on the idea of heating your solution.... and if so, do you flash-boil it? Just heat it a little, bubble it for a count to ten? Again, I'm using Dilaudid pills and have access to clean syringes, alcohol pads, and micron filters. I'm just still confused on this one point..;
Thank you for your help
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NVR---> it seems everyone out there is very much against heating.
Unless someone has a different answer, i'm going to NOT heat...
Question on heating before drawing the solution through a filter (I have a micron). I'm using dilaudid and I crushed enough, added enough water to make it a decent consistency and I am about to draw the solution through the micron filter into the syringe. Then I'll change the tip to get a much finer gauge and screw it on before shooting. Anyway, say I'm using a spoon that has been cleaned with soap, water, then alcohol.... should I flame the solution? The person who "taught" me to shoot said to do it, although I didn't do anything until I read most of the information on this site. Still having a hard time on the idea of heating your solution.... and if so, do you flash-boil it? Just heat it a little, bubble it for a count to ten? Again, I'm using Dilaudid pills and have access to clean syringes, alcohol pads, and micron filters. I'm just still confused on this one point..;
Thank you for your help
-Spin
NVR---> it seems everyone out there is very much against heating.
Unless someone has a different answer, i'm going to NOT heat...
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
^^
Do not ever heat your pills shots. All you're doing is dissolving inactive filler ingredients that you don't want in your veins.
You're making a smart move using the micron filter, you don't need anything else.
Do not ever heat your pills shots. All you're doing is dissolving inactive filler ingredients that you don't want in your veins.
You're making a smart move using the micron filter, you don't need anything else.
Hi there 
First of all, let me preface my question by saying that I have checked the forum rules, and can find nothing prohibiting this query/rambling, but I have been foolish before so please Mods, if there is anything wrong with it, let me know so I can edit it, rather than lose the query altogether! As I say, I have double-checked, but I wanted to say anyhow, just in case! (I'm a timid being at heart lol).
Also, sorry if this is a bit long - I have no-one in the 'real world' I can talk to about this!
So, many years ago, for not all that long (though I don't know how long), and ending around 5 years ago, I went through a stage of IV'ing. It started with a desire to try heroin, and then I got what I guess would be called 'needle lust', and when I lost touch with my dealer, I started injecting all kinds of things. My favorite were huge doses of crushed up diphenhydramine pills. I shudder at the thought now - the amount of pain they sent through every vein and just how full of bits the shots were... Crikey. I never shared rigs, but my goodness did I re-use them, and I let things get dirty, too. I also think that almost all of my needles were way too big, somewhere around a 24 probably. I finally stopped when I accidentally hit an artery (I think... it certainly seemed like it - intense pain, profuse bleeding, all manner of bad things), and then got an abscess, from two different shots. I hadn't injected since, until about a week ago. I was watching a TV documentary on legal highs, and did not expect to see people shooting up methoxetamine - it was just the most ridiculous trigger. Suddenly, I couldn't stop thinking about injecting, anything. It was on my mind constantly, and every night I was dreaming intensely about shooting up. I didn't even care what, I just wanted a rush! I tried play piercing, other legal drugs, booze, sex, distraction, discouragement, but to no avail. I even (super weird) started toying with the idea of removing blood, since I had the equipment to do that, and like I say, needle lust. So, as I say, about a week ago, I cracked, and I IM'd something (I shall not say what, but not heroin, and I IM'd rather than IV'd purely because I had the equipment). It was okay, but it didn't give me the buzz I was looking for.
After reading online, I discovered that ethylphenidate (totally legal at this time in my country) has been rumored to give an amazing IV rush. Not into stimulants, but thought I'd give it a go.
I went to a needle exchange, got some rigs of the right size, weighed everything out, got everything sorted, and then... couldn't hit a damn vein to save my life. Now, I am not medically trained, I'm just a bit of a junkie, and an extremely out-of-practice one at that. This could be entirely skill (or rather, a lack of). But I tried all over both of my arms. I tried lifting some big weights, to get the veins up, tried a tourniquet, tried flexing, bending this way and that. I tried at a whole bunch of points from my wrist up just past my elbow, trying to hit veins I could see through the surface, but... *throws hands up in the air*. At the 'best' point, the bend in the elbow, you actually can't see or feel veins at all. There is some slight white scarring from many years back, and a few black pin-prick tattoos (flame+needles+dissociatives+incompetence), but no veins to view or touch. Further down my arm, towards my wrists, they just seem way too deep and small. I even tried registering in the only veins in my entire body that stick out, on the front of my hands, but I missed once and I swear to God they seemed to recede into my hand!
In the end, I got incredibly cross, and just IM'd the damn stuff. But I know myself and I know lust - I'm not gonna be able to let this go until I get an IV rush (and yes, I know that's a terrible thing to say/feel/do).
I'm not asking for advice on how to shoot up - it's everywhere, and I know how to use the search function. I'm just a little lost in the strange urges that have overtaken me in the last few weeks (like I said, it'd been years, and I had no desire whatsoever for injecting... wonder if I should message whoever broadcast the documentary and recommend a trigger warning should they broadcast it again), and not sure what to make of my veins.
Should I assume, if I've put in an hour this time and I try again in a week or so, and I can't hit one, that I am done for mainlining unless I'm willing to look beyond my arms (which I currently am not)?
I am familiar with the concept of junkies and addicts losing all the veins in their arms and having to use other ones, but I guess I figured that in time, they would heal. I am also a major fatty, which I know is going to make it harder to hit a vein, but I'm assuming, not this hard - fat people give blood samples and get IV lines! Should I be willing to try a longer/bigger needle, or is that just asking for trouble? (Currently at 30g 1")
Could this really mean IM-only for injecting? Is it possible that a combination of being fat and an idiot in my youth can really have rendered all my usable arm-veins (vis-a-vis drug-taking) defunct?
Again, sorry this is so long and rambling, I guess it all builds up in one's mind. I tried mentioning needle drug use to just one friend, and he pretty much ran away, so I've never really discussed any of my vein/drug/needle queries with people, save for what I read on BL!
Many thanks for any help you can give and congratulations and thanks to anyone who read this far through my rambling nonsense lol.
Akerman
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First of all, let me preface my question by saying that I have checked the forum rules, and can find nothing prohibiting this query/rambling, but I have been foolish before so please Mods, if there is anything wrong with it, let me know so I can edit it, rather than lose the query altogether! As I say, I have double-checked, but I wanted to say anyhow, just in case! (I'm a timid being at heart lol).
Also, sorry if this is a bit long - I have no-one in the 'real world' I can talk to about this!
So, many years ago, for not all that long (though I don't know how long), and ending around 5 years ago, I went through a stage of IV'ing. It started with a desire to try heroin, and then I got what I guess would be called 'needle lust', and when I lost touch with my dealer, I started injecting all kinds of things. My favorite were huge doses of crushed up diphenhydramine pills. I shudder at the thought now - the amount of pain they sent through every vein and just how full of bits the shots were... Crikey. I never shared rigs, but my goodness did I re-use them, and I let things get dirty, too. I also think that almost all of my needles were way too big, somewhere around a 24 probably. I finally stopped when I accidentally hit an artery (I think... it certainly seemed like it - intense pain, profuse bleeding, all manner of bad things), and then got an abscess, from two different shots. I hadn't injected since, until about a week ago. I was watching a TV documentary on legal highs, and did not expect to see people shooting up methoxetamine - it was just the most ridiculous trigger. Suddenly, I couldn't stop thinking about injecting, anything. It was on my mind constantly, and every night I was dreaming intensely about shooting up. I didn't even care what, I just wanted a rush! I tried play piercing, other legal drugs, booze, sex, distraction, discouragement, but to no avail. I even (super weird) started toying with the idea of removing blood, since I had the equipment to do that, and like I say, needle lust. So, as I say, about a week ago, I cracked, and I IM'd something (I shall not say what, but not heroin, and I IM'd rather than IV'd purely because I had the equipment). It was okay, but it didn't give me the buzz I was looking for.
After reading online, I discovered that ethylphenidate (totally legal at this time in my country) has been rumored to give an amazing IV rush. Not into stimulants, but thought I'd give it a go.
I went to a needle exchange, got some rigs of the right size, weighed everything out, got everything sorted, and then... couldn't hit a damn vein to save my life. Now, I am not medically trained, I'm just a bit of a junkie, and an extremely out-of-practice one at that. This could be entirely skill (or rather, a lack of). But I tried all over both of my arms. I tried lifting some big weights, to get the veins up, tried a tourniquet, tried flexing, bending this way and that. I tried at a whole bunch of points from my wrist up just past my elbow, trying to hit veins I could see through the surface, but... *throws hands up in the air*. At the 'best' point, the bend in the elbow, you actually can't see or feel veins at all. There is some slight white scarring from many years back, and a few black pin-prick tattoos (flame+needles+dissociatives+incompetence), but no veins to view or touch. Further down my arm, towards my wrists, they just seem way too deep and small. I even tried registering in the only veins in my entire body that stick out, on the front of my hands, but I missed once and I swear to God they seemed to recede into my hand!
In the end, I got incredibly cross, and just IM'd the damn stuff. But I know myself and I know lust - I'm not gonna be able to let this go until I get an IV rush (and yes, I know that's a terrible thing to say/feel/do).
I'm not asking for advice on how to shoot up - it's everywhere, and I know how to use the search function. I'm just a little lost in the strange urges that have overtaken me in the last few weeks (like I said, it'd been years, and I had no desire whatsoever for injecting... wonder if I should message whoever broadcast the documentary and recommend a trigger warning should they broadcast it again), and not sure what to make of my veins.
Should I assume, if I've put in an hour this time and I try again in a week or so, and I can't hit one, that I am done for mainlining unless I'm willing to look beyond my arms (which I currently am not)?
I am familiar with the concept of junkies and addicts losing all the veins in their arms and having to use other ones, but I guess I figured that in time, they would heal. I am also a major fatty, which I know is going to make it harder to hit a vein, but I'm assuming, not this hard - fat people give blood samples and get IV lines! Should I be willing to try a longer/bigger needle, or is that just asking for trouble? (Currently at 30g 1")
Could this really mean IM-only for injecting? Is it possible that a combination of being fat and an idiot in my youth can really have rendered all my usable arm-veins (vis-a-vis drug-taking) defunct?
Again, sorry this is so long and rambling, I guess it all builds up in one's mind. I tried mentioning needle drug use to just one friend, and he pretty much ran away, so I've never really discussed any of my vein/drug/needle queries with people, save for what I read on BL!
Many thanks for any help you can give and congratulations and thanks to anyone who read this far through my rambling nonsense lol.
Akerman
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