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Harm Reduction Injection; IV Complications and Info MEGATHREAD & FAQ III Vs I Want Blood

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out of a 3 year IV habit I may have missed 5-10units total. it amazes me to hear people missing such large amounts. I have nice veins though so maybe that's why.
 
You really need someone experienced to show you. It's the best way to actually learn what you're doing. 80 units is a lot of liquid to miss.. how do you not realize you're missing way before that many units? If it hurts/burns when pushing down the plunger, you are missing. Immediately take the needle out and try again. Also, you should be re-registering mid shot, maybe even more until you figure out what you're doing.

Yes, a lot of people have had tons of missed shots and been fine, but you never know when one will get infected and cause a serious problem. If you keep up like this, you're going to really mess yourself up.

You are completely right, unfortunately I have no one that I know of IRL who shoots up.

And perhaps a bit ironically, this more recent miss (that I was 'not as concerned about') is actually a little painful now, about 20 hours later. Re-applying a compress and hoping for the best.
 
I'm a clean addict today, to be honest if you lived near me I'd spike you myself so you can learn from a pro (I spiked probably 15-20 people my first year using socially before I became a dope hermit).
 
hey guys im an everday oxycodone user for years now on average 8-10 30mgs a day, for the past couple days i have not been able to get my regular fix and could only get my hands on diladuds (4 mg). I snort everything. ive snorted in the past 3 8mg ds and no effect the only time i have gotten affect is when a iv using friend banged one and a half up for me. Unfortunatlly we are no longer friends and i cant call her to help me out. i have all the tools i would need but i just want some tips and steps as a first time iv user for being on my own. my biggest fear is not being able to hit a vein myself and deff need some much needed words of wisdom and steps with this. Thanks for any help!
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hey guys im an everday oxycodone user for years now on average 8-10 30mgs a day, for the past couple days i have not been able to get my regular fix and could only get my hands on diladuds (4 mg). I snort everything. ive snorted in the past 3 8mg ds and no effect the only time i have gotten affect is when a iv using friend banged one and a half up for me. Unfortunatlly we are no longer friends and i cant call her to help me out. i have all the tools i would need but i just want some tips and steps as a first time iv user for being on my own. my biggest fear is not being able to hit a vein myself and deff need some much needed words of wisdom and steps with this. Thanks for any help!
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IV'ing yourself isn't something you can learn from a few quick steps via someone on the internet... I would hold off until you can find somebody to show you first hand or you can end up really hurting yourself. If you are determined to still just do it yourself, this thread, and many others on this site (use the search engine) go into detail on technique.

The most important thing is to use the right needle and make sure it is clean. Use a micron filter if you're injecting pills as well otherwise it's very bad for your veins and overall health.
 
Z take your time and read what thees fine people are talking about. I gathered as much knowledge from reading tons of posts as I could and even watching some medical videos from google. When my sister was in med school I remembered they used to use sterile water to practice on each other, so I did the same to make sure I was in the right area before I put a drug into my body.
If I read correctly you have done a shot before but it was given to you by a friend. I would hope you watched. Mimicking what they did would help but I do not think it is the answer to your question. It is going to be a scary experience the first time you stick a needle in your vein.
If/ when you decide to do the deed by yourself remember go light on your dose and be clean. wash your hands, use sterile gear, swab with alcohol, and take your time. Good luck and if you are not sure what to do don't do it. Maybe IV drug use is not for you.
 
Who deleted my post? Why? And why were you such a coward about the way you went about it? I'd PM a mod, but nobody sent me PM with an explanation......

you wanna compare notes and experiences about IVing drugs, shoot me a message, whoever you are!
 
yeah wtf!? no one fucks with my homie bluehues! junkies unite! we are the new foundation of bluelight. Generation H!
 
^Thanks for havin my back Sero!

Maybe that bitch got cancelled accidentally, it's possible!...in which case I'm sorry....I was just tryin to give some straight up advice on how to use the needle! If it never got posted, I'm sorry! But nothing I said went against HR! If it didn't go through, my bad.....but I wish the nitpicky MF that cancelled my post would give me a heads up!

Edit:Actually, there's not a single mod in ODD that would just remove my post without saying anything, so it must be me! I'm sorry, I'm not right in the head.....I did spend like 15 minutes on a post, but I probably fucked up!
 
^Thanks for havin my back Sero!

Maybe that bitch got cancelled accidentally, it's possible!...in which case I'm sorry....I was just tryin to give some straight up advice on how to use the needle! If it never got posted, I'm sorry! But nothing I said went against HR! If it didn't go through, my bad.....but I wish the nitpicky MF that cancelled my post would give me a heads up!

Edit:Actually, there's not a single mod in ODD that would just remove my post without saying anything, so it must be me! I'm sorry, I'm not right in the head.....I did spend like 15 minutes on a post, but I probably fucked up!

It was def you Hues. Haha. I checked the last couple pages and there is no deleted post from you so something must have went wrong on your end.

Check the picture: http://i.imgur.com/n8PoXEf.jpg

Somewhere around there on my left hand's wrist goes a nice fat, quite visibie vein. Can it be used for IV?




Any veins can technically be used for IV. The ones in your hands are very delicate though so they require smaller gauged needles and a gentle technique.
 
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I recommend not hitting that particular vein , for me it's one of the rolliest in the entire body (slips if you catch my drift) also since it's big puncturing it too much will make your hand swell up like a balloon
 
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I recommend not hitting that particular vein , for me it's one of the rolliest in the entire body (slips if you catch my drift) also since it's big puncturing it too much will make your hand swell up like a balloon

Really? For me that vein is the only one on my hand that doesn't roll. I hit it on my hand, not down on my wrist because on my wrist it's too close to whre I can feel a pulse. But it works amazingly for me personally. It doesn't even bruise much, but I am very diligent about putting pressure on my iv sites.

So to the OP: as long. As you use a small gauge needle and a gentle technique, and make sure to steer clear of anywhere on your wrist/hand that you can feel a pulse, you can definitely use that vein to iv. Keep in mind that you may not be like me , and it could be a rolly mess prone to a lot of swelling.
 
It's best if you can get the needle all the way in as far as it goes and then register, when you get in a situation where the needle is only half-way in it doesn't take much to jolt it out when you're pushing the plunger down....but it always seems to happen where I have to pull it back out a little bit to register.....I've hit a lot of people with small, thin veins over they years. I hate the 5/16 length needles but they're the best ones to hit the hand veins...I hate using my hand, it hurts and it seems to always leave marks!
 
It's best if you can get the needle all the way in as far as it goes and then register
I disagree. The needle really doesn't need to go in that deep and that's a good way to pierce through the vein (or other complications, for example I once saw someone manage to break the needle off in the vein doing that). Also the best technique for registering IMO is to draw back on the plunger a bit as soon as the needle is a little ways into the vein and if no blood enters you can slowly push it deeper, or gently alter the angle etc, then as soon as blood enters the syringe stop moving it, then draw back a tiny bit more to make sure it's still in and then depress the plunger to inject. The good ol' "vacuum method" as people around BL call it (which I originally figured out by sheer intuition and trial and error of perfecting my IV technique so I'm not just saying this based on what other people say). I don't understand the reasoning behind putting the needle in as far as it will go. You think it makes a missed shot less likely or something? I am skeptical. Unless you have very shaky hands and are only putting 2 mm of needle in it's not that hard to keep the needle steady without putting the entire needle into the vein.
 
I disagree. The needle really doesn't need to go in that deep and that's a good way to pierce through the vein (or other complications, for example I once saw someone manage to break the needle off in the vein doing that). Also the best technique for registering IMO is to draw back on the plunger a bit as soon as the needle is a little ways into the vein and if no blood enters you can slowly push it deeper, or gently alter the angle etc, then as soon as blood enters the syringe stop moving it, then draw back a tiny bit more to make sure it's still in and then depress the plunger to inject. The good ol' "vacuum method" as people around BL call it (which I originally figured out by sheer intuition and trial and error of perfecting my IV technique so I'm not just saying this based on what other people say). I don't understand the reasoning behind putting the needle in as far as it will go. You think it makes a missed shot less likely or something? I am skeptical. Unless you have very shaky hands and are only putting 2 mm of needle in it's not that hard to keep the needle steady without putting the entire needle into the vein.

It's because if you put it all the way in, whilst you apply pressure to the plunger, you are less likely to push it in further and then pierce through the vein, resulting in a missed shot. In my experience.
 
The vacuum method is for those having trouble but personally I don't' like it - encourages digging
 
If you go on an angle so that the needle is completely in the vein instead of partially in, you don't run the risk of the needle coming out mid-shot....It's actually a very simple concept...If the needle is in the vein, but only partially in, slight movements can cause it to go too far or to come out. Having the needle in all the way to the end, provided that it's in a vein, is the best way....

If you have to keep a constant depth while injecting yourself, you have to be much more careful that you don't accidentally apply pressure and go through the vein, or accidentally yank back and pull out...Of course, in my 16+ plus years of IVing heroin, maybe I'm wrong....maybe going straight down with the needle awkwardly halfway out is the way to go!
 
for me, using the short tip 31g pins worked best for me. literally I would poke nearly straight or any angel really into the crook of my right arm all the way in, and I'd be good to go. perfect junkie veins. never had to rotate sites in 3 years either (bad HR I know) and was left with about an inch long purple track. not very noticeable actually. I faired pretty well. back when I was getting high. the time it took to cook, draw, poke, and plunge was about 30 seconds or so. I'd be nodding before others could enter a vein. :cool:
 
A lot of the time, I have to adjust the depth of the needle....I don't mean to give SD a hard time about this either.....It's just, if you can visualize where the end of the needle will be in the vein and put the needle in all the way, it really has no chance of going anywhere...Especially if you're trying to go into a very narrow vein, a slight movement can screw it up....A lot of the time though, you have to push it or pull it out a little....I always at least try to get it the whole way in while in a vein though...

I can understand not trying to do it like that, but I can't think of a downside to it....Of course, you're better off adjusting the needle once you've already poked a hole in yourself than you are starting over again and poking somewhere else....
 
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