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Harm Reduction Injecting IV - "Drone" shooting

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Tony Williams

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I've done it a few times sucessfully but was wondering what you'se all think. I coined the term drone shooting and no it's not mepheDRONE IV. This ONLY works with syringes that you can retract the needle. basically I've £30-£40 worth of drugs in a syringe and it can beeasy screwing it up hitting a dud or blown vein meaning the needle needs replacing or at least blasted clear with water (still not advisable) rather than run that risk you do this:

Get your shot but replace the syringe with clean, clear water - my tolerence is high and our heroin is dark so the lunar (the bit that holds the needle and sits on the syringe) must be clean so you see the draw back proper.

So basically you match the sides of the lunar to the bevel (this is the end of the needle) so when in you look at the sides to see where the bevel it is as the bevel is not visable inside you. and basiclaly you find your vein - once it's a gooden maybe pull out a tad but then switch the barrel with the drug one. It has to be done quick before it clots. Ideally it's a two person job and the drone shot (water and needle) should be not too tight.


Don't go n do this obviously it's just an idea and I'd like feedback. Important the needle is held right while the barrel swap is done
 
You must be somewhere outside of the US, or you're using very large needles, 3cc or higher because the most commonly used needles here, you can't unscrew the needle from the barrell
 
Sorry I am from the UK. I get 1ml inshulin ones (one piece) then 2ml'ers however todays pack they were 2.5ml anyway we get 2 needles:

1 is 25g x 1" ORANGE
1 is 21gx 1.5" GREEN

years back we had blue which were in the middle. My problem is my veins aren't very visable however just after this thread I push down on them boucey to "feel" them, I tie, etc only thing is it's cold so maybe boil a kettle and pour over a flannel (let it cool obv) and hold that on inj point.

What I just did was a £30 shot which fucked up due to collasped veins now only 1/3 went in I watched the needle while shooting and then noticed a bubble forming - make it short I now have £15-£25 worth still with blood added. That's money down the drain only reason droning seems a good idea. I'd probably have to get my shot in a mo and load into 2 syringes w/ water which isn't smart I know.

The idea of droning shots was insted of risk your hit/shot you use water, once your in you switch the barrel - if it's in the vein then blood may come out the top so maybe if it regged just as you went into the vein, go back out swap re-reg and fire?

This isn't advise only an idea. When I've done it it's either worked or clotted
 
Tony Williams said:
Sorry I am from the UK. I get 1ml inshulin ones (one piece) then 2ml'ers however todays pack they were 2.5ml anyway we get 2 needles:

1 is 25g x 1" ORANGE
1 is 21gx 1.5" GREEN

years back we had blue which were in the middle. My problem is my veins aren't very visable however just after this thread I push down on them boucey to "feel" them, I tie, etc only thing is it's cold so maybe boil a kettle and pour over a flannel (let it cool obv) and hold that on inj point.

What I just did was a £30 shot which fucked up due to collasped veins now only 1/3 went in I watched the needle while shooting and then noticed a bubble forming - make it short I now have £15-£25 worth still with blood added. That's money down the drain only reason droning seems a good idea. I'd probably have to get my shot in a mo and load into 2 syringes w/ water which isn't smart I know.

The idea of droning shots was insted of risk your hit/shot you use water, once your in you switch the barrel - if it's in the vein then blood may come out the top so maybe if it regged just as you went into the vein, go back out swap re-reg and fire?

This isn't advise only an idea. When I've done it it's either worked or clotted
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Honestly what is this thread even about, Other Drugs isn't a diary where we all come to listen to peoples minute by minute live injecting story. Also, I'm not even sure what you are talking about for the most part...
 
^ I know what he's talking about....there's syringes that you can get that the actual needle piece unscrews from the syringe, kind of like pulp fiction, if you've seen that....He's merely saying that if you have bad veins and are worried about possibly losing your dope, you can find a vein using a syringe filled with water, leave the needle in your arm, unscrew the bottom part filled with water, and then screw a new syringe filled with drugs into the needle already in your arm. At least thats what I think he means....Sounds like it could get messy
I've only ever used a 3cc syringe with a screw on top, they mostly come with a fixed needle and syringe, although I;m sure we have them here, they're just not common...
 
that sounds rediculous. i have trouble loosening a tourniquet without the needle falling out let alone taking apart needles
 
This sounds messy, unhygienic and troublesome, unless I am completely misunderstanding it...but surely it must take some effort and force to remove the syringe from the needle? Wouldn't this risk slipping out/tearing up the vein? Especially when you're hanging for a shot, haha...I am nervous and shaky enough as it is!
 
In the US we do have syringes with disconnecting tips.. However, this idea seems like it would be more difficult than just shooting the regular way. Why not just practice registering with sterile water and a clean syringe in those hard to hit veins and once you get your technique down, go for that??

I mean, like down508 said, it seems like you would have just as much trouble slipping out of the vein doing this (if not more) than when using a tourniquet. There is also something known as a "butterfly" which you might look into if your IV'ing in this fashion. Is it impossible to get tips smaller than 25g? I can't imagine using something that big, even 28g tips are uncomfortable for the veins I need to use if I IV.
 
A 25g is basially a fuckin' hole punch.... You are going to mess your shit up big time if you're sticking yourself with a rig that huge. Like Z said, (by the way...what up man, long time!) 28 should be the biggest anyone goes and that's only for your bigger veins. You need to switch to 30's or 31's if you start going in your wrist and hand veins. Although, my last run really fucked those up too even with good technique and 31 G short tips... :\
 
BlueHues pretty much said in English what I meant. I did do this yesterday in the "croook" vein, the big fucker - infact I was able to replace the syringe shoot, then cooked another shot, booted the old (prevent cloting) swap and worked ok. However that big vein I find is slow and takes time to cloton the sides where there are more veins I found they clot VERY fast yet hit fast.

ok I am thinking maybe more along the lines of a picc or iv line, I had in hospital when I was young a needle into my vein then plastic string tubing threaded through that sat in the vein it was secured/taped then hooked upto saline solution. However on the other end of the tubing would be a syringe, draw and shoot, cap.

The idea is I'd obviously clean the area, etc attach and I'd have it attached over the day. I would never have to worry about wasting time finding a vein however the downside would be the cost (can afford xxx h then can afford this :P) and acid / corrison like heroin might burn overtime the, vein so dialute it more maybe.

sorry if i make poor sense.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
^ This.

A 26G to 27G should only be used when you are plunging multiple milliliters in a single shot. Otherwise, I would never use these for intravenous purposes.

anything bigger than that is just asking for veins to collapse IMO.
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I was doing 2ml+. My shots are too much FOR THEM little 1mlers as you fit 2x 200mg bags roughly when I perfer the 2ml ones well 2.5 now maybe buy a set of pins that are super small yet long. Orange ones seem good though.
 
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