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Harm Reduction Injecting heroin and methamphetamine together?

Morphling said:
You can put the heroin and meth in the same syringe, yeah. You're going to have to use more water than you use whilst shooting up the meth alone. That's part of the risk factor, missing part of the shot due to vasoconstriction from the meth, I do believe. Missing is bad enough with meth, let alone with whatever cuts are in the heroin, so I'd dissolve the heroin and neutralize it with a bit of baking soda and let the cuts precipitate out before adding in the meth, at least if you're using BTH and not EC powder.

I know you don't want anyone to preach at you, but if you think meth addiction is bad, take it from someone who was hooked on heroin for a long time...it's even worse. You don't want a co-addiction, speed-ball style. It'll be much more expensive, and the withdrawals from heroin are horrible. I only shoot meth once or a few times a year, as I really don't need another problem like that. My sister's boyfriend shot up meth and heroin together, and ended up having to jump state due to owing some really bad people a lot of money due to both addictions. Sure it's a blast, but much riskier than shooting one or the other, and it's not going to end well if you end up hooked to heroin as well as IV meth.

What else...people puke from taking too large a shot of meth, and that happens as well with shooting too much heroin, so you might take a smallish dose of benadryl or promethazine prior to shooting up, it should help with the nausea. Let us know how it goes, and please stay safe!

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Thank you so much! I don't know when I'm going to do it. It could be tomorrow, or it could be a month from now. I'm not sure which it'll be yet :)
 
The fact that you just started doing heroin and are already considering speedballing with meth is a really bad sign man... you're falling fast.

Anyway, like any speedball, you want to make sure you cut down the dosages of each drug. It takes a little while to find that perfect harmony of heroin to stimulant, depending on what you're looking for from your high.

The main danger of speedballing is that it makes it easier to OD from each of the drugs, as they mask the effects of each other. For example, one who is very high on meth can do a lot more H than usual because the high is being severely masked, however respiratory depression can still be occurring.

From a psychological standpoint, many peoples addictions have gotten much much worse after they began speedballing. It has a way of taking a present addiction and making it worse than you can imagine..

Be careful.
 
Used to do it regularly, like.... many times a day. I know tons of people who are still caught up in that struggle. Eventually your shooting so much meth that if/when you are ever not delusional enough to be thinking somewhat rationally and decide to give it a break and quit, you'll likely find yourself in a deep fucking hole that you've been digging without realizing it, harboring addictions to two of the most powerful and fat soluble drugs out there. Methamphetamine withdrawals can range from non-existent for some, to extreme lethargy for others.

Heroin/Opiate withdrawal however, I don't know anyone who just.... slips in and out of heroin addiction, it is essentially a guaranteed problem. It sure doesn't seem like it as you inject it to calm yourself down from otherwise nearly or actually overdosing on the amount of ice you eventually will be injecting. It's like, I'm not sure which drug you get addicted to harder, or quicker, especially when you're shooting them both in the same shot/syringe.

You'll notice that ball of tar or that bag of powder get bigger and bigger, and that rock of crystal, even the best of glass, will eventually be so thick that less and less light passes through it....it's not perfectly clear and transparent, as good ice should be when in the form of small shards.

From what I've seen and lived.....I'd say that the vast majority of people who find themselves doing this, they don't survive this combo and/or the lifestyle that will inevitably come with it.... unless of course, you're one of the type of fool people who thinks that they won't or couldn't ever POSSIBLY get to that point... Because you think that you're so different from the MILLIONS of other lives these drugs destroy on the daily. But of course, as soon as you push the plunger, these problems, AKA your reality, fades to black. But do they go away? No, your problems usually multiply and breed like rabbits.... Ignorant and Blissed Out

. Ignorance may be bliss, but in the real world....which WAY too many find themselves spending every waking moment trying to escape, enhance, or otherwise finding a way to "flip that switch" and go from caring to not caring... It becomes a vicious cycle, of Lethal Procrastination... "I'll get clean _______ tomorrow/after this sack/when I run out of needles/on a certain date/insert some reason here that allows you to keep using for now, doing NOTHING to change your reality but expecting a different outcome. I recall this being applicable to the definition of insanity, Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome.

Ignorance KILLS. Please check out this thread if you're a regular meth/amphetamine user, and do EVERYTHING YOU CAN to protect your body from the filth your contaminating it with. Micron filter EVERY shot or research then buy some if you don't know what micron filters are. I'd recommend you get them in bulk, like at least a pack of 25, and idk what the quality of product your working with, Tar vs. East Coast Powder Heroin are VERY different when it comes to how they boil down.... (NO PUN INTENDED....SEEING AS THERE IS ZERO REASON ANY AMERICAN HEROIN SHOULD BE HEATED, IT ONLY INTRODUCES MORE CONTAMINATES AND MAKES NONSOLUBLE CUTS SOLUBLE TEMPORARILY, ONLY TO RESOLIDIFY IN YOUR VEINS. AND METHAMPHETAMINE IS ONE OF THE MOST WATER SOLUBLE DRUGS I HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHY ANYONE SHOULD APPLY HEAT TO SPEEDBALLS OF ALL THINGS...
 
I have written a trip report on the combo. I do advise to reconsider this option. Although enjoyable, it is a risk that could potentially be dangerous. I mean, I can't deter you from using it, especially if it makes me sound like a hypocrite. Just some friendly advice. As great as it feels, when I have both, I tend to use both quite often and it's pretty damn addictive. I've gotten into some legal troubles because of it. Just please proceed with caution and arm yourself with a lot of knowledge before experimenting and administering two substances into your veins.

I have a tendency to have destructive drug combinations and that is my flaw. Right now I'm trying to get my shit together, but if you were to experiment, take a look at your life first(not trying to preach) and see how your current situation is, study your health and body, and make sure you are psychologically strong enough to not make it into a destructive habit or a bad decision that you made in life.

That is all I'm going to say, the rest, I leave up to you sir.

The last trip report I wrote was describing how quickly my life was getting out of control. Although, not a junkie or a tweaker like I used to be, I felt that I was close to becoming an addict again, but this time with both drugs.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/655262-Meth-Heroin-IV-Approx-70mg-30mg-Experienced-Ahh

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...h-Approx-bump-of-Heroin-and-a-line-of-cocaine

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...ne-Heroin-Alcohol-Experienced-Various-amounts
 
tricomb said:
Tar vs. East Coast Powder Heroin are VERY different when it comes to how they boil down.... (NO PUN INTENDED....SEEING AS THERE IS ZERO REASON ANY AMERICAN HEROIN SHOULD BE HEATED, IT ONLY INTRODUCES MORE CONTAMINATES AND MAKES NONSOLUBLE CUTS SOLUBLE TEMPORARILY, ONLY TO RESOLIDIFY IN YOUR VEINS. AND METHAMPHETAMINE IS ONE OF THE MOST WATER SOLUBLE DRUGS I HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHY ANYONE SHOULD APPLY HEAT TO SPEEDBALLS OF ALL THINGS...
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I never understood why some people in my social circle would heat up a shot of coke and heroin. East coast powder and cocaine just about dissolve instantly in water, same goes for meth. Shit, even when I did speedballs with heroin, cocaine, and hydromorphone (always used a micron with that combo), I never ever heated it up.

By the way tricomb, I like the way you run Other Drugs. You have a no bullshit approach, tell things like they are, and don't hesitate to call out stupidity.
 
UPDATE:
I did it! I injected about 0.2g of meth, and 0.1g of heroin, and it went fantastically! I came down without a problem, and it all went fine. Thank you to everyone that gave me tips to help me instead of telling me not to do it and calling me stupid!
 
So how was it compared to the crystal alone? Could you feel the smack with that? Im extra sensitive to stims for some reason, prob bc of years of opiate dependence and so forth, but when id do a speedball the shot would be mostly dope, just a little coke would make my head ring and pour sweat. Im sure crystal and smack is intense. I dont think i could everget hooked on meth, all the times ive done it its been too tweakey and made me feel the need for strong downers.

Glad to hear you were safe and saught advice first, at least thats a dose of hr.
 
'medicine cabinet' said:
So how was it compared to the crystal alone? Could you feel the smack with that? Im extra sensitive to stims for some reason, prob bc of years of opiate dependence and so forth, but when id do a speedball the shot would be mostly dope, just a little coke would make my head ring and pour sweat. Im sure crystal and smack is intense. I dont think i could everget hooked on meth, all the times ive done it its been too tweakey and made me feel the need for strong downers.

Glad to hear you were safe and saught advice first, at least thats a dose of hr.
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It was amazing. I could definitely feel the crystal and the smack. They blended together like a new drug. It was pretty fantastic. Can't say I'll make a habit out of doing it, though. I'm going to save the speedballs for special occasions.
 
TweakerBirdie said:
UPDATE:
I did it! I injected about 0.2g of meth, and 0.1g of heroin, and it went fantastically! I came down without a problem, and it all went fine. Thank you to everyone that gave me tips to help me instead of telling me not to do it and calling me stupid!
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I'd say congratulations but... there really isn't anything to celebrate here. You're on the fast track to serious trouble.

Good luck, man.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
I'd say congratulations but... there really isn't anything to celebrate here. You're on the fast track to serious trouble.

Good luck, man.
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It's serious trouble to use speedballs on special occasions? We're talking a few times a year, here. I just want to understand why everyone is so against using drugs here. Please explain your opinion and why I'm on the "fast track to serious trouble" to me?
 
well, i think i can safely speak for just about everyone that has walked the razor and been sliced by it, that using such powerful substances in a way that your body is able to get 100% of the drug(s) in a matter of seconds, that planning on using just here and there just wont work. its that easy to say. those two drugs shot together produce so much neuronal release of your brains pleasure chemicals that its like sticking a fork in a giant nuclear reactor. overload baby. it floods every synapse, reaches every receptor, gives your body such a blast to the reward pathways that after a while of here and there, you consciously dont even realize you want it. your body lets you know it NEEDS it. it will wake you up, it will become your alarm clock, your job, your habit, your life. ive just seen too much, i dont mean to come off as totally dreadful and terrifying or anything here, but you literally are playing with fire. you WILL get burned. maybe not next month, maybe not 2, but if you keep doing it, the whole act beginning to end, from txting or calling, then doing whatever you have to do to get $$$$ (remember your tolerance just increases) picking it up prepping the shot and slamming it home it will own you.
 
'medicine cabinet' said:
well, i think i can safely speak for just about everyone that has walked the razor and been sliced by it, that using such powerful substances in a way that your body is able to get 100% of the drug(s) in a matter of seconds, that planning on using just here and there just wont work. its that easy to say. those two drugs shot together produce so much neuronal release of your brains pleasure chemicals that its like sticking a fork in a giant nuclear reactor. overload baby. it floods every synapse, reaches every receptor, gives your body such a blast to the reward pathways that after a while of here and there, you consciously dont even realize you want it. your body lets you know it NEEDS it. it will wake you up, it will become your alarm clock, your job, your habit, your life. ive just seen too much, i dont mean to come off as totally dreadful and terrifying or anything here, but you literally are playing with fire. you WILL get burned. maybe not next month, maybe not 2, but if you keep doing it, the whole act beginning to end, from txting or calling, then doing whatever you have to do to get $$$$ (remember your tolerance just increases) picking it up prepping the shot and slamming it home it will own you.
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I see. Thank you very much for explaining. It's much appreciated, and I think it helped me understand Mr. Scagnattie's response a bit more.
 
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