Injecting H without cooking it?

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

I always thought heat was necessary to dissolve tar.

It seems odd to me that your tar would completely, easily, and readily dissolve without heat. But it's your money.

As for sterilization issues, not really. Just use a filter - even something like a cigarette filter or cotton do filter out quite a bit, as you can se by the particulate clumped up at the end when your done using it.

 

[johnnyb420]

tar will dissolve without heat but adding a little heat makes it go into solution a lot faster. i always use heat it seems to make the final product a little bit clearer. if you dont add heat it seems to be more opaque. the heat is not for sterilizing you would have to boil it for to long to do that ,i think it would break down the drug if you put that much heat to it.




edit :you should not use cig filters they can put tiny particles of fiberglass in you veins which is not good for you(correct me if i am wrong)

 

[Weebl8bob]

Eh.. idk.. the #4 east coast H i have seen seems to be pretty damn pure.. dissolves on contact.. i doubt filtering is gunna get anything out.. im pretty sure your just wasting by doing that.. whatever its cut with is pretty water soluble so the filter wont trap it

 

[PIC]

Actually cigarette filter isn't a good idea at all because of some particulates that the filter contains so go with cotton.

 

[Psychubus]

"A few types of heroin will require heating to break down, although often the gunk left after mixing heroin is not the drug at all, rather adulterants. Some forms of heroin are also alkaline, and require an acid to be broken down. Lemon juice should not be used as it can contain a dangerous fungus, so white vinegar is far safer. Alkaline dope is quite rare in Australia at this time."

^^ that was posted on erowid's heroin FAQ section, i'm assuming heroin alkaline is tar? just cause i heard black tar is supposed to be free base... somebody please correct me if im wrong

 

[johnnyb420]

correct me if i am wrong but most tar heroin is acytelated opium or "homebake" it is a crude form of heroin. the east coast powder is a more advanced form some heroin does indeed need an acid to break it down but tar does not

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

Cigarette filters do not contain fiberglass, I believe that's a myth. I tried looking this up but the best I found were various articles on the contents of cigarette filters and not mentioning fiberglass at all as a part of the filter.

So I'm not 100% sure, but I would venture to say that there is no fiberglass in cigarette filters. For other reasons though, I would prefer cotton balls or q-tips.

Tar heroin is still heroin, it just hasn't been processed completely. It is not a "crude" or "homebake" form of heroin - first of all it is still actually the genuine diacetyl, secondly it still requires quite an extensive effort. Tar is made intentionally for many reasons, which may possibly include cheaper production costs, lack of certain but unnecessary resources, and distribution. This process skips a few things other production methods do that aren't necessary. The final product of tar does contain higher levels of other materials in it though, and not as "pure" as more refined methods - such as (obviously) higher levels of morphine.

I wouldn't call other forms more "advanced" but that isn't a far cry if you look at it that way.

I haven't heard of any "east coast dope" that required acid to be broken down. All of the tar I've ever heard of actually, dissolved much easier without heat - although it wasn't really necessary, it was preferable. Just from what I've read online I figured the heroin that required acids to be broken down were in England.

 

[Gum Base]

can you guys respond and say yes you heat your herion or no you don't and what type of H you got.

I don't usually heat mine ever.. seems no need. I got some nice tan powdered stuff that disolves with no heat at all. (NICE soupy/cloudy stuff) can't see through that shit %)

 

[g0d of 0D]

can you guys respond and say yes you heat your herion or no you don't and what type of H you got.

I don't usually heat mine ever.. seems no need. I got some nice tan powdered stuff that disolves with no heat at all. (NICE soupy/cloudy stuff) can't see through that shit %)

sure.

I don't heat my heroin but I get good tan powder.
If I have to buy tar which I prefer the powder over the tar b/c it seems like w/d from the tar is worse and plus if you miss a shot of tar that's not good. So I heat tar heroin do get it fully dissolved. Don't let it boil and destroy your dope.

 

[itsjustme]

ive done it lots of times and im alright as far as i know. never by choice though, only if im stranded somewhere w/o a lighter

im in denver also so its tar

 

[ktx49]

the DOPE in the ENTIRE USA does NOT require an acid...
its either tar or #4(east coast)

all the heroin ive gotten(tan/grey powder #4) dissolved instantly without heat just some gentle stirring.

basically i cold-shook it...didnt even filter cause the solution was so clean looking.

goddddddddddddd what a fucking rush.

 

[rachamim]

Tar is, as Johnny says, simply acetylated opium. Homebake is something else altogther, which in the end look identical to Tar. Homebake originated in the 1970s, in New Zealand due to shortage of heroin there. It is made in most cases from water extracted codeine that is converted to morphine with pyridine. The morphine is then acetylated without any reflux device and comes out looking and acting just like Mexican Tar.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

can you guys respond and say yes you heat your herion or no you don't and what type of H you got.

I guess I wasn't clear. I only heat it up if I find it necessary, meaning that the heroin does not dissolve easily, readily, and quickly. All of the tar I have come across, which includes powdered tar and the sludge, did not require heating necessary but did make it alot easier to dissolve, and so I heated. All of the "east coast dope" I've seen did not get heated.