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Inducing a permanent opiate buzz

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Is it possible to induce a mild, permanent opiate buzz?

What I mean is, are there any psychological practices (meditation comes immediately to mind) that can produce changes in the brain that mimic or closely resemble the brain changes that occur after opiate use?
 
Meditation isn't going to induce a permanent opiate buzz or anything near that, but it does help you to relax, and focus. Channeling your energy will help with all aspects really :P
 
No. You can, however, eat well and excercise regularly and enjoy a properly functioning endorphin and reward system, and that's close enough.
 
After a while it would just become your norm, so you would just feel normal instead of buzzed.

"Without evil, there can be no good."
 
Chakra meditation has been able to produce some vivid dmt like images... even from personal experience..so hell..why not just meditate for your individual self being..
 
I'm thinking that a permanent opiate buzz would end up being permanent opiate tolerance. Anything you ingest that would be "permanent" would probably mean brain damage of some kind. I'm not sure of the wisdom of seeking out something that would cause guaranteed brain damage (MPTP).
 
When you wake up in the morning you take a hit and get your buzz on for the day. Then before bed you take some down regulating pain inducing anti-opiate and then take a few pills to knock yourself out so you don't experience it. Wake up and repeat.
 
When you wake up in the morning you take a hit and get your buzz on for the day. Then before bed you take some down regulating pain inducing anti-opiate and then take a few pills to knock yourself out so you don't experience it. Wake up and repeat.

tolerance to the sleep pills? there isnt a mafig "down regulating pain inducing opiate" that would magically reverse all tolerance. sooner or later the shit would hit the fan, or the floor....in soup form.
 
After a while it would just become your norm, so you would just feel normal instead of buzzed.

"Without evil, there can be no good."

just wanted to respond to this to say that quote isn't true. think about chronic pain patients. they never just feel normal even after the pain has become the norm for them. they are still aware they feel bad. so if i a painful sensation can last indefinitely, why couldn't a pleasurable sensation?
 
No. Mu-opioid receptors will down-regulate in response to agonism. Even without down-regulation, tolerance is still induced.

Dissociation of mu opioid tolerance from receptor down-regulation in rat spinal cord.
Nishino K, Su YF, Wong CS, Watkins WD, Chang KJ.

Department of Anesthesiology, Duke University Medical Center, Durham, North Carolina.
Abstract
The effect of continuous intrathecal infusions of opioids was studied in rats. Chronic intrathecal infusion of the highly selective mu agonist, [NMPhe3, D-Pro4]morphiceptin produced a rapid onset of tolerance to the drug in the analgesic test. However, membrane prepared from the spinal cords of the rats chronically infused with a low dose of the drug showed no statistically significant change in the number of mu or delta receptor binding sites. In addition, membrane prepared from rats challenged with a single high-dose bolus injection of [NMPhe3, D-Pro4]morphiceptin did not produce alterations in the receptor binding number. If the chronically treated rats were challenged with an acute bolus dose of [NMPhe3, D-Pro4]morphiceptin, there was a significant decrease in the number of binding sites. The reduced binding site number was observed for the mu ligand but not for the delta ligand. A similar decrease of receptor binding can also be achieved by chronic infusion of the drug at high doses. Scatchard plot showed a decrease of maximum mu binding sites in the membranes prepared from the combined chronic infusion-acute injection treated rats. Brain tissue from the same rats showed no change in the number of mu and delta receptor binding sites, indicating that the down-regulation of mu receptors was confined to the spinal cord only. Morphine did not induce receptor down-regulation by acute, chronic or combined treatments. These results suggest that in the rat spinal cord, tolerance can be induced without apparent receptor down-regulation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2158554
 
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