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PHD_in_PRT

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I have been a long time grower for many many years. I have always wondered what is better weed grown indoors or weed grown outdoors. I know a lot of people will have their opinions, but please only comment if you have done an actual comparison. I don't mean comparing any outdoor stuff with any indoor stuff. I mean have you ever taken a two clones from the same plant and grew one outdoors and the other indoors.

My opinion is that there is no question that outdoor pot is stronger then indoor pot basically because you can not duplicate mother nature and no HID light even comes close to the output of the sun. A light meter shows that light outside in the shade is brighter then any light indoors.

I based my opinion of some tests I did to my friends without their knowledge. First I gave them all a sample of some weed I grew indoors rolled in a joint without telling them how I grew it and asked them how they thought it was. I then gave them a joint of the same cloned weed that was grown outdoors and asked them the same thing. I gave them pre rolled joints so they could not see how it appeared so it wouldn't affect their opinion. I then asked them some questions about which they thought was better. Before telling them the details of growing it, in every case everyone thought that the outdoor stuff was better then the indoor stuff. When I told them that they were the exact same clones from the same mother plant and they all picked the outdoor stuff they couldn't believe it. They thought the stuff they thought was the best was grown indoors. Not only was the outdoor stuff better but it definitely didn't look as good as the indoor stuff did. I have tested this on 20+ people and the results were all the same.

Even though Indoor pot may look better and therefore appear stronger, it isn't.

If anyone else has done the same thing, grown clones from the same plant indoors and out, please let me know what your thoughts are. You must use two clones from the same plant or else you will be comparing different weeds.

So what do you think?
 
It really depends on where you live. I've grown clones of the same plant years after years and it always comes out better indoors than it does outdoors. The climate overhere simply isn't stable enough to grow good weed. Indoors everything is perfect.

If you live in a place where the climate is suitable to grow cannabis, it might come out better than indoors.
 
blow monkey nailed it.

If i grew my buds outdoors they'd be moldy before they got nice and nug-like.

but i agree that no light can replace the broad spectrum of the sun. the plant simply produces more.
 
Climate ain't bad here for it if you water it enough... hot long summer (bigger plant) and cold nights meaning alot of bud growth. I've never grown weed personally though. But I've smoked good quality outdoor weed, but seen alot of weak bushies too though. Indoor tends to produce much tighter/condensed buds.
 
Blowmonkey said:
It really depends on where you live. I've grown clones of the same plant years after years and it always comes out better indoors than it does outdoors. The climate overhere simply isn't stable enough to grow good weed. Indoors everything is perfect.

If you live in a place where the climate is suitable to grow cannabis, it might come out better than indoors.
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Did you base this on looks and your own experience, or did you disguise it like I did and gave it to several people to try.

When I did my experiment, I showed each of the testers what the buds looked like after I gave them the joints to smoke and every one of them picked the buds that looked the best as being the best. My tests prove that looks does not tell you its strength.

I agree that it depends on where you live but I say below the 40th latitude and lower, it is better outside.
 
Arobskittle said:
blow monkey nailed it.

If i grew my buds outdoors they'd be moldy before they got nice and nug-like.

but i agree that no light can replace the broad spectrum of the sun. the plant simply produces more.
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The mold problem is a direct result of not being able to control the humidity outside as you can inside. Most buds mold at night when the humidity is very high. I have had the same problem.

I agree that it may not always be true depending on various locations and conditions which can be controlled indoors, but if the weather works out right for you when you grow outdoors, I am convinced you will get a better product, although the risks of not getting one or even the theft of your crop does have its down sides.
 
OP, you talk mince.

outdoor better than indoor?
neither is better. there is absolutely no way of knowing this. it is a fallacy of a claim right from the outset.
and besides, on what, and who's merits are these judgements made?
 
I've always preffered outdoor .

It looks like shit but always gets me higher for some reason
 
Ive always prefered outdoor weed(properly grown) In most cases it's better then indoor because of how healthy outdoor plants can get. Although I have seen some strains come out better indoor's then outdoor's and vice versa, so I think it has to do with the strain alot aswell.
 
assuming the 2 plants get all their nutrients, are free of infections, and pests the plant that is outside may not LOOK as good
But

it certainly will have better potency because the THC trichomes are a defense mechanism from UV light.So the outdoor plant would produce more THC gram per gram than the indoor. Also the plant would be able to get more of the light spectrum, and stretch its roots out as much as it wants.

But because outdoors is usually not perfect and shit happens, indoor buds are consistently "better" than outdoor nugs to most people.
They get them stoned and look pretty. the outdoor may get you slightly more high but not look as good so people think the indoor is better even though it may be more potent.


Also the DIFFERENCE that im talking about would hard to detect without a lab.
 
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THCV production is also increased when exposed to uv lighting. Confirmed with thin layer chromatography on another forum I frequent.

The production of terpenes is also significantly greater when a plant is raised in full ground as opposed to in a pot. So that might account, along with the raised thcv & thc production, for the difference in effects observed.

Did you base this on looks and your own experience, or did you disguise it like I did and gave it to several people to try
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So I have to try this out on other people before I can claim that it's accurate? Through my own experience. I think I know what's good bud and what's not. I don't need other people to have to confirm this.
 
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afaik the lamps for growing (eg sodium lamps (hope this expression is right, in german, they're called "natriumdampflampe")) produce UV light. imho, a plant needs uv light to produce growth in the first place.

don't know though, if they get it more from sunlight than from artificial light.
 
HPS doesn't give off uv(b). Plasma lights do.

And a small edit in the previous post I made. Apparently John Lydon established that THC is increased when exposed to UV.

The effects of UV-B radiation on photosynthesis, growth and cannabinoid production of two greenhouse-grown C. sativa chemotypes (drug and fiber) were assessed. Terminal meristems of vegetative and reproductive tissues were irradiated for 40 days at a daily dose of 0, 6.7 or 13.4 kJ m-2 biologically effective UV-B radiation. Infrared gas analysis was used to measure the physiological response of mature leaves, whereas gas-liquid chromatography was used to determine the concentration of cannabinoids in leaf and floral tissue.

There were no significant physiological or morphological differences among UV-B treatments in either drug- or fiber-type plants. The concentration of Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ9-THC), but not of other cannabinoids, in both leaf and floral tissues increased with UV-B dose in drug-type plants. None of the cannabinoids in fiber-type plants were affected by UV-B radiation.

The increased levels of Δ9-THC in leaves after irradiation may account for the physiological and morphological tolerance to UV-B radiation in the drug-type plants. However, fiber plants showed no comparable change in the level of cannabidiol (a cannabinoid with UV-B absorptive characteristics similar to Δ9 THC). Thus the contribution of cannabinoids as selective UV-B filters in C. sativa is equivocal
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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1751-1097.1987.tb04757.x/abstract
 
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Bagseed said:
afaik the lamps for growing (eg sodium lamps (hope this expression is right, in german, they're called "natriumdampflampe")) produce UV light. imho, a plant needs uv light to produce growth in the first place.

don't know though, if they get it more from sunlight than from artificial light.
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wrong. good thing it's IYHO
does my walmart T12 produce UV? i think not
does it allow plants to grow? hellz yeah
 
Blowmonkey said:
HPS doesn't give off uv(b). Plasma lights do.

And a small edit in the previous post I made. Apparently John Lydon established that THC is increased when exposed to UV.


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1751-1097.1987.tb04757.x/abstract
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In practice only some strains benefit from UV exposure. Some people have had limited succes with using actual UV lamps. If anyone uses these, please, for the love of god wear goggles!

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I live at 54 latitude iirc and outdoor weed cared for correctly is generally superior to indoor weed.

Weed grown in polytunnels or greenhouse, which I consider to be outdoors, under supplementary HPS lights (you'll find these HID lights were in fact originally intended for the greenhouse industry rather than indoor grow rooms since their orange tinge is complemented well by the blueish sunlight) is superior to indoor grown weed IMO. There is no comparison, especially if the weed is grown in good soil (I mean actual soil in the ground, not compost).

You'll find the soil quality plays a big part. Move a few meters away from a good spot with all the right soil characteristics and the quality can be very different. It's very much like the situation with the wine industry. At the end of the day good soil/earth contains reserves of nearly every single plant mineral/nutrient known to man. Because this is hard to replicate in grow media reliably, soil is often superior and hence produces much better tasting weed. It might not necessarily give a better high, but there's a good chance it will taste better.

Edit: I believe metal halide lights give off a small amount of UV, by the way.
 
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Basically it all comes down to this.... Indoor = better quality and Outdoor = Better quantity.
 
Im not trying to be rude, but it would be good if you could substantiate your reply by saying why, rather than cluttering up the thread with a simplistic response. Or are you just speculating?
 
Artificial Emotion said:
I live at 54 latitude iirc and outdoor weed cared for correctly is generally superior to indoor weed.
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You saying I don't kow how to care for my plants? ;)

I know for sure my Blueberry always comes out better indoors than it does outdoors, I've had the same clone over 5 years.

It depends on strains as well as wise already pointed out. Most indoor strains simply won't cut it outdoors and most outdoor strains are just for outdoors, they do terrible indoors, they've acclimatized. I wish I could grow anything outdoors, but I can't. Mostly all of the strains really suitable for our climate (52 lat) are mediocre highs, selected mainly for flowering times really. It needs to be done before half/the end of september preferably, beyond that and it's hit or miss, mostly miss. Thankfully some of the purple strains are more resistant to mould and other diseases, so my BB usually pulls through, but the high is severely affected. It's just not what it is compared to indoors.
 
Were these plants you speak of grown under glass?

Granted, some people might not class it as outdoor-grown weed, but it makes use of natural sunlight and often soil as well. In my opinion the combination of good soil and natural sunlight can't be beat.

I know you said that injest, but I meant no disrespect towards your growing skills, for the record. I think they're probably better than most growers.

Also, for the record I do believe growing an indoor-bred strain outdoors probably won't be as good as an outdoor-bred strain grown outdoors. I think this is a distinction that needs to be made. But if we're comparing outdoor strains grown outdoors in general with indoor strains grown indoors I personally think outdoor weed is better, in general.
 
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One more thing. If your soil needs to be ammended in any way in order for you to be able to grow decent weed in it, it's poor soil. I live in a part of the UK with the best soil known to man - grade 1a agricultural loam (you can see what quality soil you're sitting on by looking up maps online). This soil is in the top 6% of the country's soil, so I'm luckier than most. Soil quality plays a big part in the quality of your end product. Put glass or polytunnels over good soil and you have the best of both worlds. You can even finish early and avoid end of season mold by covering/blacking out your plants to induce 12/12 light conditions so that you don't need to resort to using autoflowering strains, if you have the time, dedication and resources. Given these conditions there's really no reason for it to be inferior to indoor weed.

So, like I suggested above, your results depend very much on where you live.
 
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