In The Dumps

Lustmord

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Hey guys.

I'm just posting this because I don't have anyone that I can talk to about this kind of stuff, except for you.

My life seems to have been going downhill a lot lately. The girl that I thought was the love of my life broke up with me at the beginning of this year to marry another guy, and ever since it has been nothing but self-medication (my entire life has been like this, except for when I was with her). It started with weed and booze, and ended at heroin. Now I'm currently on DXM because it's supposed to help with the withdrawal effects. Heroin was a quick turn downwards, jesus christ. I'm glad I'm getting out of it now, and I know I really fucked up.

Anyways, as always I've spent most of my time not sober. I really need to try for the best because I'm going to fuck up school (again!) if I don't start heading in a positive direction.

I just wanted to ask those of you that manage to survive sober how it's done, that's all. So, how is it done? Or any tips for me in general?
 
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I have to keep telling myself that "I am worthy". I am worthy in this life and I don't have to prove my existence is good...I deserve to be here. I deserve to be guilt free. A few weeks back I felt useless....my head was spinning and I felt so guilty for using my DOC. I stopped....I still want it but I feel so guilty about wasting time on it. I hope that makes sense.....it's like I have been able to forgive myself now.

Tips....establish a routine with your school work and life for the next few months...until the end of the semester. Stick with it and try NOT to procrastinate. If you do, make lists and be proud of anything you get done.

Take long walks to get your endorphins going. Depending on where you live falltime can be the best time to be outside. Enjoy nature and look for the beauty on your walks.

At the same time....

Expect to feel bored and a little empty. Drugs fill that hole...but the hole is normal to have. Reward yourself for little accomplishments....rewards that are drug free and take just a few minutes...an extra few minutes playing a game...a few pieces of candy...browse a thrift store for a cool shirt....sit in a dog park and people watch. Pick out a show and make sure you watch it. But get back to work and pat yourself on the back when you get homework done....get 30 minutes extra sleep!!

Lots of sober peeps ride bikes and say they love it.

Old habits drive us at times...when we actually "think" we will always be a certain way...we might need to realize, "Hey..that'd just a habit ". We can stop the habit...we can change them.


Here is a page I like...

Play the tape through. When you think about using, the fantasy is that you'll be able to control your use this time. You'll just have one drink. But play the tape through. One drink usually leads to more drinks. You'll wake up the next day feeling disappointed in yourself. You may not be able to stop the next day, and you'll get caught in the same vicious cycle. When you play that tape through to its logical conclusion, using doesn't seem so appealing.

A common mental urge is that you can get away with using, because no one will know if you relapse. Perhaps your spouse is away for the weekend, or you're away on a trip. That's when your addiction will try to convince you that you don't have a big problem, and that you're really doing your recovery to please your spouse or your work. Play the tape through. Remind yourself of the negative consequences you've already suffered, and the potential consequences that lie around the corner if you relapse again. If you could control your use, you would have done it by now.

Tell someone that you're having urges to use. Call a friend, a support, or someone in recovery. Share with them what you're going through. The magic of sharing is that the minute you start to talk about what you're thinking and feeling, your urges begin to disappear. They don't seem quite as big and you don't feel as alone.

Distract yourself. When you think about using, do something to occupy yourself. Call a friend. Go to a meeting. Get up and go for a walk. If you just sit there with your urge and don't do anything, you're giving your mental relapse room to grow.

Wait for 30 minutes. Most urges usually last for less than 15 to 30 minutes. When you're in an urge, it feels like an eternity. But if you can keep yourself busy and do the things you're supposed to do, it'll quickly be gone.

Do your recovery one day at a time. Don't think about whether you can stay abstinent forever. That's a paralyzing thought. It's overwhelming even for people who've been in recovery for a long time.

One day at a time, means you should match your goals to your emotional strength. When you feel strong and you're motivated to not use, then tell yourself that you won't use for the next week or the next month. But when you're struggling and having lots of urges, and those times will happen often, tell yourself that you won't use for today or for the next 30 minutes. Do your recovery in bite-sized chunks and don't sabotage yourself by thinking too far ahead.

Make relaxation part of your recovery. Relaxation is an important part of relapse prevention, because when you're tense you tend to do what’s familiar and wrong, instead of what's new and right. When you're tense you tend to repeat the same mistakes you made before. When you're relaxed you are more open to change."
 
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I had over 3 years sobriety from a monstrous booze habit, and I achieved it through exercise and constant positive reinforcement. Switch up your routine so you dont have idle time on your hands. I used to come home from work, fire up the Xbox, and pour me some liquor everyday like clockwork. If I came home and turned on the Xbox, I would naturally want to drink. So I started coming home and swimming everyday for about an hour instead. Torturous at first when all you can think about is using, but I started to get immediate results.

Create oppurtunities to occupy your time so you dont have so much time in your head to dwell on depression. Start playing tennis or basketball or something at the park , stay active, take care to surround yourself with positive influences whenever you can. NA or similar support groups can be wonderful for some people, when everybody is trying to stay sober around you, its much easier to be sober. I made it a point to go out and meet new people and try new things, even at a time when my energy/motivation/mental outlook was running on fumes.

Time heals all wounds eventually. In the end you will probably be able to be in a room full of junkies using right in front of you, without much of an urge to use. Sure it would be great to get high for awhile now, but is a life in shambles worth a few hits? Fuck no.

Good luck. I fell off the wagon in April and just started back on the path to recovery yesterday. I set myself so far back in just a few short months, my life is becoming a wreck again. It is a little easier now that I know what to do and how to handle it properly, at least. If you ever need to talk to someone give me a PM, I can give you a number to reach me at anytime if you need someone to talk to or going through some moments of weakness. Going through this process with like minded people is critical for success in my experience.
 
Create oppurtunities to occupy your time so you don't have so much time in your head to dwell on depression.

Sound advice. There are things that we just don't have any control of and it is up to us to be able to fight it off. We all have different problems but I always believe that there's going to be a resolution to any problem with patience and time. Your SO left you because she may not be the right person for you and this will give you opportunities to meet the right person for you. Give it time and be patient and I am sure you will find love again it may not be right now but in the near future and the least you expect it.
 
I'm broke and I need a job, but I absolutely do not think that I even have it in me to search for the next few days.

Been sleeping about two hours every night. Have no money to see a doctor for meds that might help, save for the last of the Loperamide that I just took, and Benadryl for sleep. (Doesn't really help.) Wish I could get on Bupe but I like I said, no money.

I just went for a short walk then took a hot bath. I can't wait until this is over.
 
Fuck it I went out and did it. I have a job interview as a delivery driver at Pizza Hut on Saturday.
 
Fuck it I went out and did it. I have a job interview as a delivery driver at Pizza Hut on Saturday.


FANTASTIC!!! Took me forever to find something....but I live in the freaking middle of no where....


Stick with it!! That is sooo fantastic....money soon!
 
Good stuff man, youll nail this interview, and a job occupying your mind all day is excellent for staying sober. Hell maybe there might be some cute sober chicks working there. : )
 
Thanks for the support guys. I had trouble sleeping again last night, and I couldn't stop thinking about my ex. I guess I never got the chance to get over her since all I did was get fucked up when she broke up with me. She was even in my dreams when I did sleep. Fuck me.

Wrote her a message this morning. Nothing like "I want you back", but just apologizing for my behavior during the last year of our relationship. I had started drinking again and I was super depressed, I guess she finally had had enough. I was super clingy and dependent, and she said that made her resent me because she really appreciated her alone time. So it goes.

So yea, I just said sorry for being clingy and dependent, and I told her of my opiate use and problems because I feel she's still a friend and the only person I can really talk to (my parents would cut me off allowance in a heartbeat if they found out that I had a stint with drugs again). I wished her all the best and that I hope he makes her the happiest girl on the planet, and that she can still call me any time she needs someone to talk to. She's troubled as well.

I'll try not to think of her anymore, but it's very hard.
 
Hiya,

I am sorry to hear of your break up. That's not good n I know how that can be. You can do this. Keep posting. I'm new here myself n I must say the support here is ace. People are really friendly n care. This has to be the nicest, friendliest, supportive forum I know. Lots to educate yourself on n many different forums to discuss whats best for you.

I'm on suboxone myself after a codeine addiction. Not really sure I am the best person to give you advice re tapering / detoxing. However, I am willing to be a friend n a means of support if you want someone to vent to. Feel free to PM me anytime.

Evey :)

Would like to add (sorry do not know how to multi-quote n do not want to keep p***g the mods off so will here) that I think the advice given to you is ace n please read them a few times. Im not trying to patronise you it's jusr I often read a comment once - perceived it the wrong way - then read again n perceived it differently.
 
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Sorry you're hurting so much. Love really fucking hurts and you have to find coping mechanisms whilst you still can. Do something that gets your adrenaline pumping and get sweaty and stay as busy as possible, because believe me, your life depends upon it. How you recover from this and you will recover if you take a leap of faith, will be the difference between the rest of your life being utterly shit and miserable, or being fantastic and filled with new opportunities.

Take the first job you get and treat it as a stopgap if needs be, but whatever you do, DO NOT sit around moping and get off the opiates as soon as you possibly can as it is a road to nowhere and gets so much harder with more time and getting older. You are still young enough to turn this around and break free of this demon.

Tough stuff happens in life, it is how we get back up that makes the difference. Find new coping mechanisms that do not involve opiates. Another thing is, if this girl was not prepared to support you, although it may not feel like it now, you've had a lucky escape before you were stuck and committed to someone that is not going to have your back 100% through good AND bad.

Start over. A day at a time.
 
Were you jealous acting or controlling or did you just want to be physically close to her? I'm an independent type myself so when someone wants to be with me all the time I do get resentful too. I congratulate you on being able to recognize this about yourself.....I know you don't want to rehash that stuff but I'm really glad you know what the problems were.

Hopefully you'll get the pizza jon....and some good looking chickie tips you well!
 
Were you jealous acting or controlling or did you just want to be physically close to her?

Yes. I was emotionally insecure.

She is a model, she is beautiful, and she truly loved me. I really loved her too, but I still managed to fuck it all up. So I'm simply filled with regret at this point. This is why it is so hard to let go -- it was mostly my fault.

I would give everything to have her back -- but it is simply too late, and I can't stop thinking about her.
 
You have to move on no matter what. It is done and there is no turning back. You have to get your life together first focus on yourself and make yourself better then you can go for a new relationship. You have to love yourself first before anyone else. What's done is done and you have to learn from it.
 
Firstly, you lay off the drugs that it a good way to start. You live a healthy lifestyle and focus on your career. She broke up with you but are you going to let that ruin your life? That one girl? There are other girls you are going to meet, and they may not be super beautiful or look like a model but they will love and accept you even your flaws so get up and pick yourself up <3
 
Yeah, once you get your addiction under control you can enjoy your life. There will be plenty of time for new relationships.
 
Yeah, you can't start dealing with your emotions and growing as a person until you stop getting high entirely. I would strongly suggest some type of support meetings such as LifeRing, SmartRecovery, NA, AA, whatever - Something where you can meet people that you relate to and can give you support.

Second, continue to get clean from the heroin and attempt to get clean from everything else as well. Getting off heroin is *almost* pointless if you are still using other substances to get high. You did great getting a job interview so quickly. Definitely give it a shot, but beware of doing too much too soon. You don't wanna overload yourself and relapse because of it. Just take what you can handle, one step at a time, as long as you aren't using and starting to progress in life.

Feelings about your ex and the break up are going to be strong right now. You haven't really had any time to deal with them if you haven't dealt with it sober yet. Beware of this, but also beware that like someone already said, it's in the past. Whats done is done. You said it yourself, the girl you *thought* was the love of your life. If it didn't work out, then she wasn't your soul mate. I know it's painful but someday soon you will wake up and realize how free you are. Just keep doing the next right thing, and things will keep getting better.
 
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