IN, Indianapolis - Every Tuesday Night - Juxtapoze @ The Melody Inn

for fucks sake! seriously?!?!?!? YOU CAN NOT HAVE A SUCCESSFUL ONE GENRE NIGHT IN INDIANAPOLIS. When iQ had the night "we" brought serious fucking DnB heat through there and you so called junglists didn't support the music because you had your own stupid "beefs" with Geek. You're not a junglist then, you support the music not the promoter by coming out. It was no secret Geek was losing loads of money trying to appease you "all jungle all the time" guys/gals. Same shit that happened to Therapy, you all wanted to bitch about what you'd do different and lost sight of the fact that NO support at all means NO club. DnB isn't a genre that's gonna put 400 people in the Mel with all locals that everyone has seen 584,978 times. If you wanna do DnB you better come with a big name that the MASSES will recognize. Quit bitchin and enjoy what we have.
 
I just found it very interesting, since the more diversified lineups are what got me to finally start coming out this summer....and bringing several other 1st-timers with me over the months.

I'm sure I'm not the only one.

And while coming to see [insert random house DJ here], many of us were introduced to quality DNB and Dubstep, that we may not have heard otherwise.


I think some people fail to see past the front of their nose sometimes.
 
G-9 Collective said:
I just found it very interesting, since the more diversified lineups are what got me to finally start coming out this summer....and bringing several other 1st-timers with me over the months.

I'm sure I'm not the only one.

And while coming to see [insert random house DJ here], many of us were introduced to quality DNB and Dubstep, that we may not have heard otherwise.


I think some people fail to see past the front of their nose sometimes.
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yessir, too many to be honest. I have everything but Trance in my collection. I like playing music. I like music. I can't see how anyone can be closed minded in a small market for EDM we HAVE to support one another or it'll turn to shit.
 
hardly anyone was left for it, but chris kindly allowed jahba to throw down the last half hour of the night. so for all you junglists who wanted more jungle, you missed it!! :-P the five of us left rocking out on the dance floor thoroughly enjoyed it :-)
 
It is a bit weird for the crew to be complaining/talking down about other genre's music, but it doesnt really suprise me. Its not exactly a secret that most of the crew/staff have long been into DNB/dubstep/jungle. Everybody knows you have to get the elusive decoder ring, know the secret handshake, and find a unicorn to be let into that club. Very exclusive ;)

Not a very good PR move if people realize the promotors that pride themselves on having a wide-variety of talent and tunes on their night actually dislike doing so. It kinda goes against what the night is supposed to be in the first place (large variety of great talent from all walks/types of EDM).

I imagine someone was drunk or expressing an opinion that should have been kept in private. If you are gonna contradict the nights goal publicly at least do it in the backroom or somewhere where nobody can hear you.

I'll be coming to the 16th show, looking forward to some banging electro! (or whatever brad is calling it these days)
 
Actually... it wasn't a complaint of the genre being played. Obviously we have opened up our doors to multiple genres in an effort to make this a community affair.
The complaint was more about the lack of a juxtaposition of styles. i.e. two house/tech-house dj's back to back.

We're obviously not trying to run a one genre night... but I know I heard complaints of same style sets back to back.
 
And I would say a lot of the frustration is due to jungle/dubstep/dnb not having an outlet in this city other than Tuesday nights... we opened up the door to other genres, but now it seems a lot of the line ups have become more focused on house and techno.
Us junglists only get to hear a small amount of our music in this city compared to house and the like... so when we get marginalized and basically left out of our own night, there tends to be frustration.
Especially from those of us who are signed producers and are taking this to a level of career and not just hobby/fun thing to do... yet repeatedly get overlooked in Indy.
It's demoralizing sometimes :)

And lets not act like a large part of the four on the floor crew isn't quick to hate on anything with a two step beat and some real bass.

But it's whatever... 'cause Juxtapoze is still the hottest weekly in indy EDM!

dealwithit
 
tha-Doc said:
Actually... it wasn't a complaint of the genre being played. Obviously we have opened up our doors to multiple genres in an effort to make this a community affair.
The complaint was more about the lack of a juxtaposition of styles. i.e. two house/tech-house dj's back to back.
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Yeah, I can see this.

One of the things that I talked to George about was that Juxtapose could be the place DJs go to do things they don't normally do . . . it hasn't quite happened that way (and I've little room to talk, considering I played tech-house when I played there, despite having some . . . other stuff to play).

And I still stand by my assertion that, if the night could continue to push the idea of Djs doing the unexpected, or experimental, or whatever, it'll put that night into the stratosphere.

But it can't be easy, programming a night designed for maximum diversity. Repeat styles is bound to happen.

Still, I think Juxtapose is quickly becoming a staple, or in the very least, a staple du jour.

Keep it up, folks!<3<3<3

Oh, and who else would bring a jazz fusion band to a mostly-edm night?!? Do more shit like that! That was awesome. (I could have done without Russel, tho' . . .)

tha-Doc said:
And lets not act like a large part of the four on the floor crew isn't quick to hate on anything with a two step beat and some real bass.
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If it ain't Bootsy, Larry, Jamerson, or Les, it ain't real.
 
tha-Doc said:
And I would say a lot of the frustration is due to jungle/dubstep/dnb not having an outlet in this city other than Tuesday nights... we opened up the door to other genres, but now it seems a lot of the line ups have become more focused on house and techno.
Us junglists only get to hear a small amount of our music in this city compared to house and the like... so when we get marginalized and basically left out of our own night, there tends to be frustration.
Especially from those of us who are signed producers and are taking this to a level of career and not just hobby/fun thing to do... yet repeatedly get overlooked in Indy.
It's demoralizing sometimes :)

And lets not act like a large part of the four on the floor crew isn't quick to hate on anything with a two step beat and some real bass.

But it's whatever... 'cause Juxtapoze is still the hottest weekly in indy EDM!

dealwithit
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So we're crews now? Like a gang! that's awesome! lol



I really don't follow your logic on "being left out" of your own night, when you guys play every week, typically every other DJ.

What about last month, where it was mostly DNB/Dubstep (I don't know your official crew/gang affiliate title) every week?


Regardless of all that mess.....I'll continue to support, because that's what I do.

I love what you guys do down there. Just don't make me wear gang colors to identify myself. (Unless it's green or blue, cause I can pull those off)
 
tha-Doc said:
And I would say a lot of the frustration is due to jungle/dubstep/dnb not having an outlet in this city other than Tuesday nights...
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I would say this assertion is bullshit.

we opened up the door to other genres, but now it seems a lot of the line ups have become more focused on house and techno.
Us junglists only get to hear a small amount of our music in this city compared to house and the like... so when we get marginalized and basically left out of our own night, there tends to be frustration.
Especially from those of us who are signed producers and are taking this to a level of career and not just hobby/fun thing to do... yet repeatedly get overlooked in Indy.
It's demoralizing sometimes :)
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Well... when it comes down to it. The people who were bitching about the line up are members who don't put the line up together.
Everybody also knows that the two individuals are straight junglists and uninterested in other styles.
But the point of Juxtapoze is multi genre. That's not going to change.... that's been the major reason for our success in such a short period of time.
Obviously we can't please everybody all the time... but I think we do a good job of pleasing most of the people most of the time.
There's going to be complaints no matter what we do.
Everybody can get irritated with the opinions (often drunken) of people or they can accept that Juxtapoze is a night full of different people, styles, and mindsets.

The boat may rock, but that shit's gonna keep moving forward.


You guys know you love the reason to bluefight anyway =D
 
G-9 Collective said:
So we're crews now? Like a gang! that's awesome! lol
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great, does that mean Crash is "The Generic Dudes" from River City Ransom? :-P

honestly, i never did quite understand why some people who are big on one electronic genre HATE other ones. every DJ has their own preferred style, but really, every genre has it's own unique feeling and flavor to appreciate. the best shows i ever went to were almost always the most diverse. Juxtapose, IMO, is one of the best DJ nights in town to get a decent mix of everything, and i do feel that their guys give a lot but end up under-utilized on other events.
 
Jin-XS said:
great, does that mean Crash is "The Generic Dudes" from River City Ransom? :-P

honestly, i never did quite understand why some people who are big on one electronic genre HATE other ones. every DJ has their own preferred style, but really, every genre has it's own unique feeling and flavor to appreciate. the best shows i ever went to were almost always the most diverse. Juxtapose, IMO, is one of the best DJ nights in town to get a decent mix of everything, and i do feel that their guys give a lot but end up under-utilized on other events.
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that's a lot of the complaint to be honest. "We've" opened our doors to just about everyone in the city to come and play and there's only a few people willing to give back gigs.

I do hate trance though. I mean I can't stand the shit. I honestly feel the trance movement was the final nail in the rave scene's coffin. Go to an Oakenfold show at Talboot and look at the room full of hipsters fucked up out of their heads on ecstacy. That was what the govt was seeing in their heads when they were passing laws IMO.
 
gizzmo said:
that's a lot of the complaint to be honest. "We've" opened our doors to just about everyone in the city to come and play and there's only a few people willing to give back gigs.

I do hate trance though. I mean I can't stand the shit. I honestly feel the trance movement was the final nail in the rave scene's coffin. Go to an Oakenfold show at Talboot and look at the room full of hipsters fucked up out of their heads on ecstacy. That was what the govt was seeing in their heads when they were passing laws IMO.
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not sure when and if i'm ever gonna be doing another show of my own, but i fully intend to use some of the Jux crew if i do

agree on trance, (though some of the harder stuff, like Goa and hardstyle, is okay in my book). i just can't get into most trance, or the guys like Oakenfold, Van Dyk, and such who spin it. ironically, a lot of the industrial-dance/ebm/futurepop i listen to and spin has similarities to trance (albeit the harder stuff), but never has allowed itself to be ruined/de-purified by the mainstream.
 
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