I'm so confused, and obviously pathetic, I need help, please...

Here is how I see it. I doubt I will regret it. I want to do it, and if it leads to something more, good. If not, its expected.
What concerns me the most is when I do get a girlfriend that I like a lot, will I regret then that I gave it up to this girl instead of my girlfriend.
Its almost like a present, and if I unwrap it too soon, I might regret not giving it to someone I really care about. Then again, if I open it now, maybe I can get a better present in the future...weird anology, but sorta makes sense to me. For all I know I won't have time to see her and all this thinking is for nothing. I'll see...
 
alright guys.. the cat is outta the bag.. I have hooked up with like maybe 10 guys from off the internet, and the last one, the one that i spilled my guts too and fell in "love" with before we met, ended up being a dreamboat... I mean we met, i live 2000 miles away, it was akward as all holy hell, then it just got cool.. i was way more experienced than him and i knew it going into it, and like we when we talked we used to just be like makin plans to get freaky in the parking lot of the airport. but it was weird, we were all nervous cause neither of us looked like freaks.. anyway long story short, just have fun, dont plan the fuck cause yer plans wont work out, if it goes there, then she prolly wont care either way if yer good or not cause she knows yer past.. if someone tell you they're a banana you wont expect it to taste like orange.. shes not expectin you to be porn star. just fuck her if you want.. hehee.. god i am nasty.. btw Stepper with all those details, when are free? heheee... much love to you all
 
No offense, but you really do sound confused...
The impression I'm getting from your posts is that you're unprepared for this. I may take some heat for this, but I strongly suggest that you don't do it. I just have a feeling that you'll regret it later.
You say you have difficulty telling if it's love or lust. Here's how you can tell the difference: lust has a very strong "body component". You think of a girl's hair, her smile, her body, how she might be in certain situations. It's all speculative, and you're
high on all these hormones that keep screaming "Go for it!" With lust you're entranced with the body first, the person second. Sure, XX may have a fun personality and some interesting ideas, but that's less important than the fact that when she's near you get all "warm and fuzzy". I'm not trying to belittle your feelings; Lord knows I've grappled with them.
Love is something else entirely. True love takes the person first, the body second. Someone who truly loves you will give you respect, patience, space when need and counsel when asked, and will be ever faithful, no matter how wrecked you are on the outside. With love, it's the richness of the personal interaction that's rewarding, not just the being together. THAT's rare.
So if you want to know if you're in love or in lust with this girl, I think it's the latter. It's easy for a guy in your situation to get led around by his winkie, and when this happens you regret your shortsightedness later. I'm not being stuck-up; this has happened to me many times, in minor situations.
My point is, is that your situation could be a liability that others can exploit if you let them, and in the end they'll leave you out to dry. A sad truth of this world is that presumed "love" is war.
Not to say that this girl will do this at all--but think. You say she lives far away from you. You'll only see her once. You could have this fling, and later feel like a "man", at least for a while. However, the occasion probably didn't mean as much to her as it did to you, and the distance component will only make her feel increasingly distant as time goes on. A relationship based on love can survive across that distance. One based on lust cannot. Yet, the damage will have been done--you may mentally "latch" onto her after the experience, and find it very difficult to let go. In other words, become obsessed. Having experienced this as well, I can tell you that it's mentally and emotionally draining, and when (and if) it ends, you feel only one thing--regret.
Now this has all been hypothetical. I don't know your situation personally, but from what I've read of yours I strongly suggest you think twice before going through with this.
 
Did I love the first guy I had sex with?
No
Do I regret it?
No
Were there guys who I cared so much more deeply for that came after the first?
Yes
Do I feel bad that I didn't wait?
No
I felt that this was a guy that I will enjoy having sex with. I don't know, experiences and relationships with people depend on both people and where they've come from and what they've experienced. Sex is like anything else, you teach the other person what you know, and learn from them what they are willing to teach.
You share your experiences, you each bring yourselves to each other. I don't know you, but I don't think you'll regret it.
 
SpeedmE made a good point....
not that it's totally comparable, but i was a virgin until i was over 18 and when i lost it i was quite inexperienced....and i've yet to have a boyfriend..only now am i makng my first real guy friend (platonic, but jsut haveign guy friends will help alot, i think)...also, i lost my vriginty in a fling, and i am SO glad i lost it when i did...even though we weren't in love, he was gentle and sweet and the whole situation jsut felt incredibly right..you will deifnitely KNOW when the time is right, trust me....
if it makes you feel better, the guy i slept with was absolutely gorgeous (like a 9 out of 10), great body, lots of friends of both genders....and he didnt' lose his virginity till after his 20th birthday, b/c he wanted to wait for the rigth moment. and so i totally commend you and your decision.
check out the girl and just trust your feelings and intuition, and it will work out. it is far better to find out that it's not goignto work out than never try and regret not having tried. you'll never know what you missed.
also, losing yur vrigintiy is not as big a deal as you think it is. you can have a less than perfect experience and still be ok. you won't be scarred for life (within reason, of course)..and boy will the expericne build your confidence up!
good luck!
 
Firstly, Casper, thank you. Stepper, this is a drug board, not a sex board. Confusion did not ask for a graphic despcription of your technique on going down on a girl. I'm no prude but it embarrased me. I don't come here to be embarrased by graphical sexual explainations. All I asked was that you tone down your post. I did not personally attack you, there was no need to personally attack me.
Now to the topic. Confusion, I lost my virginity to someone I'm not proud of. But I don't regret it. Shortly after it happened I started going out with the boy of my dreams. he was a virgin and although I had had sex before, we waited 12 months before we finally got around to it. When we did, it was the most amazing, magical experience of my life. I now think of that night as my first time. it was the first time with someone I loved.
My boyfriend was not upset I wasn't a virgin. Nor that I hadn't waited for him. In fact, he liked the fact that I had some experience! I'm sure a girl would feel the same way if it was the other way around. I didn't mind the fact he was a virgin either. In fact I loved the fact I had some experience cause I could show him what to do. I loved knowing what he was in for when he has no idea. It's like I was teaching him and guiding him. It was great fun to have so much control!!
I'm not suggesting you go ahead just to get some expereince. but you obviously like this girl. I undertand how you can get to know someone, and fall in love with them, over the net. It's only natural you will meet, and yes, it is almost inevitable what will happen. You will at least kiss anyway. If this girl knows you as well as she seems to, you already have a firmer basis for a relationship than most other people who enter into a sexual encounter. It's not like this is some girl you met in a nightclub. This girl knows you intimately and has done for 6 years now. Who else do you know who had a relationship with someone for this long? Forget the internet thing. It was just a means by which you met. you're both still people with thoughts and feelings which you both express to each other, regardless of how it's done.
If you do decide to go ahead....don't be so concerned with technique and how you do it. this will only make things worse. Don't decide beforehand exactly what you're going to do and when because these things aren't planned. if you plan, and things don't go according to your plan, you will be more lost than if you hadn't had a plan in the first place. Go with what you feel. Go with how she feels. Ask her what she wants to do!!! How she wants it done. you've said she has more experience than you...take advantage of it! Let her lead the way. This way she gets exactly what she wants and you don't have to stress. She'll probably enjoy teaching you like I enjoyed teaching my boyfriend!
Don't romanticise it and think it will be the most amazing earth shattering thing. If you have such high expectations, there's a high possibility those expectations won't be lived up to. The first time is awkward, messy, fumbly. Lots of 'ooops sorry', 'no go there', 'ooh you're lying on my arm' sort of stuff. It's embarrassing but that's half the fun. Relax. Laugh a bit. Have some fun. It's nothing like the movies. By thinking about this so much you've built it up to be something bigger than what it actually is.
There are lot's of don't in here which comes across as quite negative. But my advice is to go for it. If it doesn't happen (which it may not for any number of reasons) it's not your fault. Just enjoy your night with her. enjoy the fact that you've finally met a very good friend.
Don't know if this has helped you but I hope it may have in a small way.
Good luck when you finally meet her. I hope you enjoy the night, whatever happens. let us know how it goes!
miss apple
[This message has been edited by miss apple (edited 20 January 2000).]
 
Hey Confusion,
I think you got into my head and typed this post. All of it is exactly the same for me, background wise that is and the virginity thing doesn't count for me either.
I don't really know what to say, i am the last person that should be posting a reply, so I will just encourage you to do what you think is right, but don't forget you can only lose your virginity once.
d.
 
Confusion, you're not pathetic. There is nothing wrong with being a virgin. There is nothing wrong with being a virgin in your 20s. Just because you didn't sleep with some high school sluts and college girls, doesn't mean you're pathetic or abnormal. I think before you can fall in love, have sex, have a healthy relationship, you need to go to a psychiatrist or have a nice long talk about your feelings/situation with your mom or someone you're very close to and trust. It will help you a lot and will clear your mind. You will see from that point on what has to be done. Make a little plan for yourself.
For example:
To fall in love I need to do this...
a) Talk freely about my feelings
b) Open up more to your family
c) Get more self confident
something of that sort, once you complete each step you'll be much closer to what you want. Remember the journey is more fun then the destination.
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confusion, what's going on with you? any updates to share with your cyber pals?
 
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