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I'm Scared to Roll, and im Pretty sure i shouldn't.

Mr_Fluffykins

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I'm Scared to Roll, and im Pretty sure i shouldn't be.

Well, i don't really know how to explain it, but i guess i can give it a shot. around 6 years ago i had a period of exstacy abuse.

This was a very volatile time in my life, grade 11, and my emotional state in high school was fragile. That summer i went on a drug called strattera, for adhd. It changed me, and basically created states of extreme social anxiety, from this point on i couldn't even consume caffeine, without anxiety, sweats, and such.

Now i don't know is my abuse of exstacy led at all to this social anxiety or not. by the time i was done using E, i would have to take 5 pills in one mouthful, for an hour long high, it was a weekly to 3 times a week thing, varying from 5- 27 pills a week. (the 27 is the extreme and very rare, i was a member of bluelight at the time, just a risky stupid kid thats all. after this summer cannabis started providing me with extreme anxiety, and basically a very reduced tolerance to the effects of cannabis, thats slowly getting chopped away at, now i can smoke a decent amount compared to what i could after 2 years of several times daily smoking, and its still very easy to smoke to much(ie, more then .1 in a pipe)

I tried exstacy a few times, afterwards, but the setting wasnt right i was with my ex( who was my girlfriend at the time) and she had cheated on me the night before, and ending up telling me, leaving me with that horrible feeling when your forced to feel bad on exstacy.

Later i had begun gaging in conversations about fucking E, and noticed the thought of it had made me uncomfortable, now i have even stoped knowing what it feels like, and can only remember the shitty feeling of that night.

its been 4 years since ive done it, and ive been someone doing it their first time, and sorta remembered how it feels because, people basically act the same, and i was anxious around them and had to drink about 8 beers before i felt better. but lately that anxiety has faded, more and more, and i dont gag when i think about it, im not in my horrible relationship, im back to working, about to start school again.

I do psychedellics almost weekly, but had been taking a few weeks break, because, long 2c-trips, leave my body worn out, and its hard for me to get enuff sleep that week end for going back to work, the past weekend that just passed, i was just going to buy DMT from the dealer, but she was all out of that, when she listed off the chems she had, mdma was one of them and i was going to buy a pill but she only had grams for sale and thats not something i was going to commit to , if i were to do it, it would have to be only a 100mg dose, i did snort a line of pure shard mdma with my cousin a few months ago, without negative effects, but i didnt feel much maybe a little euphoric, maybe a little energized, a very low dose.
besides that i have never tried pure MDMA, and have been wanting to, because i dont know if the pills i had been getting were clean or not, i had heard, back in thoose days (before the big piper and shit boom) that most pills in my area were clean.

Should i try mdma? is it to riskey? sorry its a long read but i had alot to say about the situyation and im sure ive missed some.
would 75mg be a suitable dosage to start with, is there like a statistical number that has been proven of likely hood of "loss of magic" being permanent
I am also diagnosed borderl-line, possibly bi-polar, with social anxiety, general anxiety, and ocd,
i know my ocd,had benefited from the E i had taken, as while on it i could lie on any bed sheets not just my own flece onces where you couldnt see all the little dead skin, and dirty specs that acumulated, and are less likely to feel it, on E i just wouldnt care, and it felt good.
Nut my borderline, had there been any interactions between borderlines, and mdma, what about bipolar?
i was on lamtrigine for about three months, and on risperidone for about 2 months(low dose 1mg), but i have been off medication since march.

I guess The bottom line is, as i used to say, when i a was a little grade 11er, should i reunite with my ex-stacy(noo, i dont wanna do pressed pills i wanna do pure mdma )
thanks for your time, its been awhile since i posted in ED, ive been using other parts of the site.
 
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I think stratera is known for causing depression and anxiety in itself isn't it? I think the abuse of mdma + stratera at the same time would have lead to unwanted side effects. I could be thinking of something else but I think it is stratera.
If you were to go nback and try mdma again I would go for a threshold dose for your first time, maybe 30-50mg? Just to test it and see how you would react. If you get any bad effects then you will know not to increase the dosage and stop taking it.
In the end you are the only one who knows your own body and its best taken as your own decision. Go with your instinct and just make sure to keep your rolls at least a month apart.
Good luck with that
 
my strattera use came afterwards, because, i did 18 meth bombs in one day, and started puking up black shit(my friends my a thread about it on bl, and i made an account to reply in it and thats how i started blueligjht, my friends called my parents cuz thats what bluelight told them to do, and to get out of shit i said id be tested for adhd, and since i had used a "stimulant" before they put me on strattera
 
bro if i was in ur shoes i would have stayed away from all drug use until i feel mentally stable u say u have social anxiety ,ocd and general anxiety which all are triggerd by psychedelics even weed for gods sake why do more damage ?? no pun intended im just curious on why u keep on pushing the limits ur mind is not a toy and mdma is a powerful drug ... stay safe
 
I would somewhat agree with PLURIL4... though I don't think trying Molly one time could do much damage (though I may be wrong). But I would suggest laying off drugs for a while.

Like... totally clean for a good amount of time and see how that works out. When you feel yourself starting to come back down to Earth, then send yourself back to Heaven :)


HOWEVER... if you're much fixed on the idea of rolling again, I would suggest going for 100mg. No more, no less. You said you already sniffed a mild dose with your cousin and you had no negative effects. I would go for the roll this time. 100mg isn't too much so you won't be poisoning your body beyond repair, yet it's enough to get you pretty high especially after 4 years without any MDMA intake.

The decision is up to you, but if I were in your shoes, I'd go completely sober first...

Whatever you end up doing, though, I wish you the best of luck!
 
droped 1.5 at midnight, 1.2 at 12:30, and 1.2 at 1:20 boy did i have a good time , and i havent felt a bit anxious for the past day or so, immmm back, now i jsut gotta be careful

Follow harm reduction advice, space your rolls out by 4-6 weeks, take 5-HTP for the week after each roll. Test your shit. Don't redose too much.

If you feel you need to take a lot to get the same effect, there are a couple of things that some people claim to help get the magic back. Piracetam for one and also there's a thread on bluelight about Dark Chocolate making rolls more intense without the need for higher doses.

Don't fuck about mate it's too risky for you.
 
I agree w pluril4 u seem to have a lot of problems in that lil head of hrs. Drugs may not be the right thing for u. Adhd, bipolar, anxiety dude u need to get ur shit together first not being a Dick or anything but I'm just saying there's to much going on onside ur brain that needs to b worked out before u start using any kind of drug.
 
I d say if you got good ex then get off all the pharms cause doctors dont care anymore they get paid to hand out scripts. just my two cents and yeah dont do mdma too much space it out and take lots of 5htp
 
dude how in the fuck could u be scared from taking mdma but not psychs??? on md, i have zero anxiety, whereas on psychedelics i am paranoid as fuuuuck.
 
First off why no offense would you do psy. Drugs. I don't get them and I never will. I get where your coming talking abuse wise but do you miss the feelings of not being able to sleep urinate and feeling like a truck hit you. Your post was too long to read it all. But I will say this I do not care what anyone says. E takes a toll on your brain and first off your memory, I use to be sharp as a wip in a way I still am but I can be sitting in the library reading and 20 minutes later I forgot what I was reading , you can say and my fiancé can say that it dosent but it's horse shit and yeah I had the best times of my life. But now in school I have to pay extra close attention and try extra hard. And if your already suffering from anxiety and depression and what not try some cognitive behavioral therapy first because I feel the drug will only heighten the anxiety and nervousness feelings, meaning the day after rolling
 
yeah dude i used to take stratera as well but i've never mixed it with molly but i remembered that Stratera alone did nothing but bad for me. anytime someone mentions stratera I gag just because i remember all the horrible shit it caused; extra stress, anexity, lack of appetite with already 15.6 BMI, killed all emotion.

It's probably causing your rolling problems that and how often you use XTC, slow down. anything more than once a month isnt good from your brain

My advice you're better off without the meds, either ask for an alternative or working with someone to improve your ADHD, I grew out of mine.

Best of luck to you and i hope you get everything sorted out
 
I'd suggest not doing it if your that worried. I'm not to familiar stratera but i know amphetamines don't mix well with MDMA anyways
 
glad to hear you had a good time OP.. I have anxiety/ocd issues as well (don't take meds though) and have no problem with mdma - even the come up, I enjoy the whole experience it is one of true relaxation and enjoyment

take care :)
 
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