Opioids IM medical grade Morphine using 1ml Insulin Syringe

[zdroj]

Hi

I will be soon receiving some medical grade morphine solution normally used for IV.

For my own reasons I will not consider IV so please so not advise as such.

What I would like is if you are able to advise if my plan to IM using such a short syringe is possible? If so where? I was thinking my thigh muscle.

I'd also appreciate any links to guides on how to best conduct an IM injection.

Secondly what would be a good starting dose? I'm 120kg male with opiate tolerance in the way of being able to snort up to 200mg of oxy a day etc.

I appreciate your replies in advance.

 

[bingey]

Im morphine must be awfully itchy.

Why not plug it?Much less of a hassle and risk involved.

what kind of syringe are you going to use? If you are skinny/normal you don't need a long tip IME. It's good for it to be a larger gauge because they are sturdier , but also bigger hole more risk of infection/bleeding. So if you are carefull the 29 will do fine , if you are very twitchy/nervous go for a 27 at less risk of it breaking off.

have you used the search function? When you Im you have to be very carefull with hygiene and sterility , did you get alcohol swabs and or disinfectant? So I guess you should do some research/ memorize the steps cause it's you who are going to do this not me.

 

[smokey_phil]

Normally the question "how do i IM this drug . . .?" sets off alarm bells left right and center, but seeing as you seem to be getting hold of pharmaceutical grade stuff then i would assume it would be ok. (This is an assumption not fact.) As i am not sure if they make a formulation of it for IM injection i would assume that they would have one that would be safe for both as it leaves no particulate matter behind.

As for IM injection you can use the short 1ml needles its best to go in at a 45 degree angle to make sure its in the muscle and do not push a whole 1ml into one site that will cause problems your gonna want to do maybe .1 or even .05 of a ml in each site then move on to the next one about half a cm away from any ones you have done in that session

If you don't want to IV it i would still recommend skin popping it over IM'ing it for the reason that if you are unclean in some way the resulting infection will be closer to the skin and will be less of a hassle to sort out as a abscess a millimeter under your skin is a lot easier to deal with that one that is solidly in a major muscle group.

Whatever you decide to do stay safe and research the hell out of it before hand.

 

[missmeyet?]

Oh geez..

Does it say on the bottle "for iv use only"?

Also if you do I'M it..you can put a whole ML in one spot..don't make a whole bunch of tiny injections. You would be much better off with a longer needle..you may get it into a muscle but it probably won't be deep enough.

 

[Lopez]

not sure about morphine but i used to inject 1ML of testosterone with ease in one area, but i'd bleed after, and you will never be able to do that with an insulin syringe, i used a 25g, 1.5 inch to make sure it didn't bleed out.

stick to IV, i know you asked not to mention it, but really, it's the only way, unless you want to pin yourself at least 4 times.

 

[Flabu]

You gotta be crazy to want to IM liquid morphine over IV. It doesn't make any sense why you would do that. The only people that IM it are ones that cant tap a vein and have given up on it.

 

[zdroj]

What about sub c? The paper work that came with the vial actually lists administration as IV or SUB-C.

Reason i don't want to IV is because i am new to injecting drugs and want to start off slow and low if that makes sense?

Unfortunately it seems with the syringes unless sub c injections are an option i will need to either use it via plugging which hasn't worked for me in the past but that was pills not iv grade solution.

 

[onetwonine]

Yrah do it subcutaneous then. You're just building arbitrary walls though.

Getting the drug sub c or IM is not necessarily "better" than IVing.

IVing can be more compelling and addictive only because it feels better.

I want to feel good but not too good

I'll never understand the sentiment.

But you do you I suppose.

 

[Morphling]

Make sure the vials are sealed. If someone's been stuck a single used syringe in the bottle who knows what you'd end up with.

You mess up an IM or subC shot of morph and you're going to be scratching your skin off, btw. I'd buy some DPH cream, just in case.

The only muscle group you have a chance of hitting properly is the one in your upper arm. Deltoid? Think that's it. Note: They use inch and a half tips to do IM injections on babies. You really need to look this shit up yourself, to do it safely. IV is less of a hazard if you don't know how to administer IM injections properly.

 

[missmeyet?]

Yes, if it says IV or SubQ then I would suggest subcutaneous. This will work even better with your little insulin syrings anyway. Matter of fact even if you had attempted IM with that needle you probably would have ended up more subcutaneous anyways. Just pick a fleshy spot..angle your needle about 90 degrees. After you insert your needle, aspirate (pull back on plunger) a little and make sure you don't get any blood (to ensure that you are not actually in a vein) then slowly inject. Of course make sure you clean the area prior to the injection and keep your needle and syringe and all as sterile as possible.

*edit*

Above post hit at same time as mine so I didn't see it til after I posted but Morphling is absolutely correct. If that vial is not still sealed then I would NOT inject at all. If someone else stuck a used needle in that solution then it could be contaminated with anything!

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

Just stick it on the top quarter of your ass cheek...

1ml is not a lot to pop... I have popped up to 5ml of liquid... It does hurt at that amount...

You are really skin popping with a needle that small...

Still works much the same.

 

[zdroj]

Thanks. So do others confirm about sticking it in my ass cheek?

Also I can confirm this vial has never been Opened as its a glass vial I must snap the top off.

This is actually my next question. Where can I get the vials that are resusable? I mean the ones that have the rubber centered cap that I can transfer the liquid into as I don't know if I can keep the glass vial open?

Obviously I would seal it with something but what ?

Please note the vial is 10ml and is 50mg/ml so 500mg total hence why I havent opened yet as I won't come across these very often is ever again!

Thanks in advance.

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

look on google to find sterile sealed empty vials.
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[opiatekrzy]

if ur gonna consider Iving drugs, don't even justify and "start of slow" the point of IVing drugs is to IV it, not IM it, for the instant relief/rush/euphoria, unless your using steroids. not to mention missing shots of whater ur doing, meth heroin cocine, is bad and can cause health problems....once u go to the needle, its equally as bad whether you IM it or IV it..if u wanna start of slow..IV a tiny amt, inject half the drug in, wait 10secs, if u don't feel much inject the rest in...

 

[zdroj]

if ur gonna consider Iving drugs, don't even justify and "start of slow" the point of IVing drugs is to IV it, not IM it, for the instant relief/rush/euphoria, unless your using steroids. not to mention missing shots of whater ur doing, meth heroin cocine, is bad and can cause health problems....once u go to the needle, its equally as bad whether you IM it or IV it..if u wanna start of slow..IV a tiny amt, inject half the drug in, wait 10secs, if u don't feel much inject the rest in...

After all the replies and time to think I have come to the conclusion that as I have and see myself remaining touse drugs via the intransal route that the best option with this extremely rare item would be to either a) find a half decent roa which doesn't involve needles which seems unlikely as its morphine or b) arrange a way to exchange it for a drug that suits my roa etc better.

I'd like to thank each and everyone who took the time to reply. Your honesty, experience and feedback have been invaluable.

Cheers to all!
Zdroj

 

[Fuzati]

Thanks. So do others confirm about sticking it in my ass cheek?

For what it's worth, I recommend it as well.

Admittedly I'v never used a needle, and most likely never will. It's just not my thing.
But plugging, morphine vials, I have my share of experience with that procedure, and it's way better than oral/intranasal.
The high comes pretty quickly and you don't need to use a needle.
Now if people with experience with both precedures could compare plugging morphine vs IM, it would certainly make it easier for you to make a choice.
But the biodisponibility is almost the same if I recall correctly, so in theory...

Keep us updated!
Fuz

 

[zdroj]

So say I want to try and plug 20mg once the vial is open how do I store it?

Obviously it will be in a spot where it safe from dust,kids etc but I'm worried of it degrading I'd left open from the top.

For those who just tuned in its in a glass vial with a blue/yellow line on either side of the scoured line which I hope it crack cleanly.

Thanks again

 

[missmeyet?]

As a nurse for 20 years who has given (to others and myself) it is not necessary to do a subq injection in your ass cheek. You can pretty much do it anywhere, upper arm, thigh, abdomen, side..as I said above..anywhere that is a little fleshy. A whole ml is not very much to inject this way at all.

*Edit*

I just noticed what you had written in the above post. Are you saying that it is in the glass vial that is thin in the middle where you break it open? All this time I thought you meant one with a rubber stopper where you place the needle in and aspirate that contents. If you have the glass vial that you break open and you plan to do any type of injection with a needle then you must use a micron filter!!. This is because you can get miniscule pieces of glass into the syringe and it is bad news to inject this into yourself; doesnt matter if it is IM, IV or SQ...you do not want to inject glass into your body!

 

[Morphling]

^^ Always listen to her, she's awesome.

Last thing....

If you do inject it IM, rub the spot gently afterwards. It helps the drug disperse which will help it hit you faster and help prevent muscle soreness....

Don't keep hitting the same spot either, you can fuck yourself up.

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

The type of needle he is using he is indeed skin popping...

His needle isn't even hitting any muscle.