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IM DPT+K - Inexperienced/Experienced - Living in Song

Sturnam

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Last night at about 00:37 I decided to IM 10mg DPT and 30mg of (I think) S(+) ketamine.
This was my second time ever IM’ing something; the first time was the night before this of 30mg ketamine. It is also my first time trying DPT, but I am very experienced with lower doses of ketamine, but have never K-holed myself.

It may have not been the best setting; I have some homework to memorize for a presentation tomorrow as well as a test, but I decided that I NEEDED to try this out. After all I had heard, I don’t know how I could pass this opportunity up. It is the one day that I don’t have to wake up early, so I figured I would have more than enough time to finish my homework in the morning. The other factor was that I’ve had some minor problems with opiate use in the past, and I recently got some 8mg dilaudids. I’m in a very stressful place with school right now, and hoping that the experience, although mild, would help me control my use a little bit more.

After I injected the DPT+K, I went and I laid in my bed and listened to music. It’s what I generally find most comfortable to do while tripping. This is probably due to my lack of experience with psychedelics in general, as well as the fact that I’m not used to the strange body sensations, so I often get uncomfortable and anti-social with other people around. I listened to The Decemeberists “The Crane Wife 1” which is an absolutely amazing songs that just gives me shivers every time I hear it. It was the first song I listened to though, and at that point I felt the ketamine much more than the DPT, so I think next time I need to have it later in the playlist. However, while I was listening to a part where they had little bells going off in the background is when the DPT starting kicking it, with tiny blue dots started appearing in time with the bells.

The next thing I listened to was Andrew Bird, and this was where most of the trip took place. Each song was a story, that was played out inside my head, almost like a conversation. Several times I had to stop myself from responding to the music, or trying to shout out arguing against it. I wanted to tell the people the right decision to make or talk to them about their problems, but then they continued on without me. The only way I can describe it is that it was much more than music. I was completely involved with what was going on and surrounded by it. Each instrument played more of a role than simply making music; each instrument was its own person, and through their notes I could see their feelings, passions, and issues. But the songs were never depressing because there were always the other instruments there supporting each other, and helped each other through it. It felt like the end of each song was somewhat akin to the end of a great battle, where you could let out a giant sigh of relief that everything had worked out so well.

I went to the bathroom around 02:00 and was able to sleep shortly after then. I woke up this morning at 11:30 feeling very refreshed, although I had not gone as deep as I had wished. There were several things I had tried to think about during the trip, but the music seemed to grab hold of the experience and control where it went. This dose might be good for a somewhat more recreational experience, maybe a good movie-going dose. You seem to get extremely involved with any media you’re engaged with.

I think the combo of psychedelic+K I really like in general, since I dislike the strange come-up and general uncomfortable body feelings psychedelics give me. The ketamine provides a numbing and calming effect, so that I don’t notice the amphetamine-like qualities of psychedelics (I HATE stimulants) and also so the strange body sensations are lessened. It also seems to make the experience more immersive, and more “full” which is one characteristic that I really enjoyed.

This is a combo that I will definitely try again at a higher dose in the future.
 
nice report, kudos on starting small. are you not interested in trying DPT on its own?
 
well, actually the reason i chose a DPT+K combo this first time is because i have the DPT in a self-sealing vial, but unless i heat it in water for a good 20 minutes, not all the DPT is dissolved. so that means to get an accurate measurement i would have to spend lots of time heating it, which isn't a problem, except for the fact that i live in the same room with someone who probably wouldn't like the idea of needles very much. so the K provided extra volume for the DPT to be dissolved it. this way, i made the shot earlier in the day when he was gone, and then injected later when i wanted to trip.

but i did like this combo a lot. i'm sure i'll try DPT by itself at some point, but as for right now i think the ketamine helps smooth out the rough edges of psychedelics for me. i'm just getting back into psychedelics, so i want to take it slow this time.

plus, it's the substance of the month. i have to do it.
 
Sturnam said:
Each song was a story, that was played out inside my head, almost like a conversation. Several times I had to stop myself from responding to the music, or trying to shout out arguing against it. I wanted to tell the people the right decision to make or talk to them about their problems, but then they continued on without me. The only way I can describe it is that it was much more than music. I was completely involved with what was going on and surrounded by it. Each instrument played more of a role than simply making music; each instrument was its own person, and through their notes I could see their feelings, passions, and issues.
If the ketamine/DPT/indole combination is revealing its immersing narratorial side to you at these low doses, I'm sure you'll have an amazing time when you dive in deeper (for DPT/K I do 50mg of each in the same barrel.) I play a lot of the same songs over from past k/psilocin playlists, and at this point I'm noticing that certain somatic hallucinations actually anticipate the coming sections of songs; they presage the melodies in a different sense modality. It's especially prevalent with songs that go through heavy structural changes as they play through (for me, this is most noticeable during "Alligator," by Grizzly Bear.)

So, have you noticed any of these qualities on K alone? Some people, myself included, don't get the ketamine hay wagon ride through the outre realms at any dose. But even at just 50mg in combination with psilocin or DPT, my experiences are much more inline with people's descriptions of full-on "k-hole" experiences than when I do even 150mg (IM) of ketamine alone. I'd recommend the combo to anyone of firm psychological footing, though especially to those for whom ketamine is little more than like being encased in styrofoam and sunk in deep sea of oil--DPT or another powerful tryptamine might just provide the spark that lights that oil ablaze... in good way.
 
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