I'm all alone, there's no one here beside meee...

[teh1buck]

Please shut up. Alcohol is fucking amazing.

and then you go on to say

Fair enough man. Each person will have their own belief with when it comes to their own use. You summed up my personal point completely. Of course you don't have to agree with it.

Take your own advice, damn.

 

[skillet]

^ and ^^, I figured that was a joke, I mean, it has to be, right!?

I agree with the people that have said it's best to hide drug use from all but a few trusted people though, sadly.

It was funny the other day...a new colleague and I were talking about her finding a 'sugar daddy' and whether that would ultimately be a boring way to spend a life (too little challenge). I said, you can always do drugs with all that extra time, slow your brain down a bit. Then she mumbled something about DMT. And I'm like...did you just say DMT ? She is the only random person I've met in the nearly 20 years I've spent in this outpost who has brought it up. She talked about the scarcity of acid here, never mind DMT. I suggested this needs to be 'our little secret'..and we haven't mentioned it since. I didn't tell her I had some DMT stashed in the freezer.

Well, DMT is probably the worst thing to try to slow your brain down with, so maybe that was a good call!

 

[CDiddles]

Well... I've read and thought over what you's have said.. I might just keep quiet about the psychs for a while and forget trying to convince people.. It's a real shame that some will never experience the wonders of the psych world :/

peace :D

 

[SpinOutOfControl]

I'm here!

It does feel a little lonely sometimes. I can usually find enough people to party with most of the time, but most of my friends who I grew up with are in disagreement with my psychedelic use. They just don't understand. They think it's kid stuff i'm pretty sure. I try not to bring it up much around them anymore but the second the topic comes up they have no patience. Honestly I feel like a few of them could use a good trip. They seem to be getting more stubborn and closed minded and it makes them sound like real assholes.

 

[malakaix]

The transformational cycle in which psychedelics can invoke is truly awe-inspiring if your willing to let go of everything and pursue the horizon of infinity.

I went through so many stages of transformation over the course of three or more years;

From trying to explain my understanding to all who i considered important people in my life, to realizing that they can never truly know my experience and through understanding this i remained silent, struggling with my inner conflicts of what society and others value and what i value, realizing that these people i believed were crucial pillars of my life couldn't be further from where i was heading and in understanding this i removed them from my life.

Spent much time alone as i traveled further along my spiritual path, endured intense depression, psychosis, and manic episodes coupled with extreme loneliness.

Integration became key and was only clear to me after taking a year long hiatus from all psychedelics and drugs in general. As i began to re-assemble the pieces over the course of the next year.. my perspective of those who i removed from my life began to change, i was able to accept and love them for who they were without feeling obligated to change their views.

The humble silence that accompanies you along this path is not your enemy, but your friend. You can look around you and smile at all you see, endowed with a sense of peace and calm understanding that what your experiencing is divine.

 

[kingme]

Ive been lucky enough to have met some similar minded people in real life, and have been really grateful for all those on these here forums as well.

I guess everyone that starts using psychs has this period in the beginnings, when your eyes are first opened and you feel like sharing it with everyone you love, and thinking some would benefit so much from this viewpoint. I think it is great, but you have to remember, most people are educated in a whole different way, and have set rules about what is moral and socially acceptable. The older the people, the more fixed the ideas. Thats also why i think people will tolerate mild drug use in teens, because they think "they dont know any better" / "they will grow out of it", but then frown upon adults use.
So, Ive given up trying to convince others after the first few tries, when all my tangent remarks fell on deaf ears. Eventually, likeminded people have found me, and i was happy to be part of a group, but really, I feel trips alone are more productive, and stimulate more growth.
Ive also grown out of the "i use, therefore i know more" phase. I am now in the "i use, and am thankful for the experiences" phase.

i wonder whats next

 

[Issac Sinclair]

I think that people should try them them at least once.
But after a while my enthusiasm for them isn't as strong as it was before. I've accepted some people don't care and don't want to try it.

No one really finds them very fun to take daily, at least I hope not. They are the drug that stays with you forever, and changes you.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

I hear what you're saying it was like that for me for awhile when I was a teenager and first starting to trip.

There were other kids in my highschool that were into tripping but they just kept it to themselves or kept it on the down low like I did. I eventually met and became friends with one of them and we shared a trip experience together.

Most of my friends mainly just drink and some will smoke herb if someone else has it or they're at a party and they're offered it there. Some have tripped but it was on a low dose of mushrooms and they just saw brighter colors and didn't really get a full blown mushroom experience.

 

[Survived Abortion]

You don't have to evangelize, but it doesn't mean that you need to keep everything a secret. I don't see anything taboo about what I do; others may feel that way, but that is their problem to overcome. I talk about my passions equally. You wouldn't hide your love of base-jumping or bird-watching.

CDiddles, you don't need to resign yourself to solely sharing your passion for entheogenesis on forums like this or other; there are ways to get involved with like-minded people. There are numerous events taking place very frequently where people share very similar passions and open-mindedness. It's easy to get chatting and become aquainted. Also, don't be afraid to bring such things in to the sphere of discourse with your everyday peers. It isn't something that anybody should be treading on egg shells trying to avoid, especially if people want the matter to become an issue for serious open public discussion about legal policy reform. It will never get anywhere if people remain cowardly in the shadows.

You can't expect others to be open to a lifestyle which is illegal and dangerous at times. You're in the minority and you need to accept that. Do what you want and don't worry about it.

Such a dumb counter-argument. You don't see a difference between BEING somebody and having a choice of what you do and put into your body? Don't expect the rest of society to cater to and accept your actions when they are still illegal under federal law. It's better to keep to yourself and not let anybody know about what you do with your free time. When people find out, it all goes in the shitter. Sad and unfortunate, but true. If you don't want to be looked at as a druggie, then don't do drugs, or do a better job of hiding them. Nobody should be open to drug use in the first place. Knowing people that are or having family members that are is very fortunate.

There are people who choose to discuss these things openly who have far more public reputation to lose than most. You're not going to gain anything by skulking away in the shadows, paranoid that anything you say may alienate people. If that's your attitude, then you are going to lead a very dark and solitary path in a pusuit that is supposed to be filled with light and wonder.