I'm about to relapse

dgriff89

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So there's nothing you can do to talk me out of this I've been off heroin since march 8th. I just want to know one thing before I do. When I use my route of choice is IM or plug. I've been on 80mg methadone since. If I get a sack of california tar will it do anything? Cuz if it won't I'll just use the money on weed and $5 on burger king.
 
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i would suggest you be careful with doing dope on maintenance especially if you haven't before. More chance of ODing. Are you sure there isn't a part of you that wants to be talked out of this to write this post in the first place? Not trying to lecture you or be patronising. Have you looked at the methadone megathread in other drugs? I think you're more likely to receive more advice n support there.

Please stay safe yea? And welcome on the sobriety time :)

Evey
 
i would suggest you be careful with doing dope on maintenance especially if you haven't before. More chance of ODing. Are you sure there isn't a part of you that wants to be talked out of this to write this post in the first place? Not trying to lecture you or be patronising. Have you looked at the methadone megathread in other drugs? I think you're more likely to receive more advice n support there.

Please stay safe yea? And welcome on the sobriety time :)

Evey
Fuck it. I just bought weed and cheeseburgers. I'm going to take a nap now. My dealer was out of town. It wasn't meant to be.
 
Being off heroin for 4 months is something you should congratulate yourself for.

At least you did not use heroin. Delete your dealer's number and don't contact them again.

I moved this to the dark side.
 
Tried to use again today I've been stressed.. Purchased a 20$ bag and as soon as I cooked it and set it down I went to grab some cotton, came back and saw my cat jumped on the counter and knocked my spoon over. I was pissed off bad... Something is looking out for me and doesn't want me to relapse. If it is god then you have one fucked up sense of humor.
 
^ lol, not meant to be man. Coincidentally, i've also been on methadone since feb and after getting forced to attend a 3-week rehab type program by the courts in late april, i've only used twice and the other times i've tried or really wanted to, something happens and i don't get to. I do get stressed/angry about it for like 30 minutes as if I'm going to be dope-sick if i don't cop until I think about me not having to worry about going through withdrawal if i don't get any. Sometimes you just gotta chalk it up to "it just wasn't meant to be this time" as corny as it sounds.
 
i would suggest you be careful with doing dope on maintenance especially if you haven't before. More chance of ODing.

Absolutely untrue. MMT is protective of overdose, as long as you're at a stable, sufficient dose and have been for a couple months.

I'm not here to argue, but I am correct. NIH or SAMHSA, etc...publications (i.e. legitimate sources of info on methadone), and personal experience have demonstrated & documented this in many publications. The same is generally true for bupe, although I won't go too far with that one, seeing as it's a much newer maintenance med, and low doses may not be protective of ODs.

Being on methadone is protective of OD! Please do not spread incorrect info regarding the treatment that has helped me and millions others regain our lives! Stopping methadone for several days and using dope is a great way to OD, but not if you're taking it daily at appropriate doses, the best way to know when you've gotten to the point of being protected from OD is after the "honeymoon" period, when you no longer feel your daily dose as a high, and you're just feeling "normal" when dosing daily.

Don't write "facts" if you cannot support them: http://www.cdc.gov/idu/facts/MethadoneFin.pdf

^^ One of a hundred sources of evidence based confirmation.

Personal experience: one example, I have several more if you'd like: I was stable at 120-mg/day methadone, injected 3 bundles (30 bags) of decent east coast dope. Nothing. Just a nasty histamine reaction, as millions of others have similarly discovered. No other depressants used.

Caveat: insufficient doses of methadone from a clinic may not provide sufficient protection. If you are feeling any signs of withdrawals and are in MMT, using dope may be problematic, including overdose. Super potent fentanyl, and its analogs possibly could cause OD in properly maintained MMT recipients, but I cannot locate a single confirmed case of methadone + fentanyl overdose that didn't also involve a benzo, alcohol or other respiratory depressant.

Here's your challenge, prove me wrong, find a couple toxicology reports to the contrary that state no other respiratory depressant was found. I can't find one, work in harm reduction and haven't heard of one such case just as "street news". "Stories" you've heard aren't enough to overturn the long standing verdict on this fact.

Always have naloxone on you at all times if you're using any opioid. Period. Have friends and family know how to administer it. Again, SAMHSA is a wonderful resource for this info and how to obtain naloxone.

Drs. Dole & Nyswander who developed MMT in the late 1960s noticed this benefit and it was a major reason why the FDA approved its use for treating chronic opioid abuse - mostly heroin and morphine at the time. Synthetic, super potent opioids are capable of overcoming the MMT blockade, but abnormally high doses would be required. Then again, when isn't abusing fentanyl a risk of OD?

MMT is the gold standard for treating opioid abuse and dependency, people reading here need to trust in it, not be suspicious of it. In no way do I recommend trying to use dope while on MMT. Not one bit, but know your "facts" before you write them in a public forum.
 
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I strongly advise against not attempting to use again.. But you're going to do what you're going to do so be safe stranger. Congrats on the time spent sober.
 
80mg is very close to a blocking dose for me. It would have taken way more than 10 dollars to get you high anyway probably. Since I've been on methadone it takes like triple what it took before to get me high.
 
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