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im 14 and wondering if it is safe for me to take lsd

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Greenlighter
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hi i am 14 turning 15 in a couple of weeks and wondering if taking LSD will to any damage to my brain. i have taken mushrooms a couple of times this year i have done pretty heavy dose one being a 4 gram trip that went pretty well. my friends have told me that LSD is a stronger psychedelic than mushrooms so i plan taking half a tab. the tabs i have are around 200 micro grams each i know its real LSD because i had it tested and that was my main concern i also plan do do it with my friend who will be doing the same dosage as me i also have a trip sitter in case things get to out of hand it will also be the first time i will be tripping out side on any psychedelic and i heard that can change the trip dramatically. i don't get anxiety on psychedelics but i get really bad paranoia when smoking weed so i wont be mixing them together and are there any extra precautions i should take before doing the LSD. also i am taking lexapro it is an ssri but from what i have read it does not really interfere with the experience.
 
(Mods, are we allowed to even look at minors here? Believe it's 18 to be a member, right?)

Fourteen is a bit young to start a drug habit, my child. And indeed your brain is going nuts with hormones right now.
You're also on psych meds at a youngish age. Probably for a reason (depression or anxiety?), and you should discuss all this with your doctor.

Sorry, I could share all my wisdom, but minors scare me.
 
You sound very mature, but in my opinion, you're way too young to take psychedelics. Especially if you're on an anti-depressive - I mean, there must be a reason you got it prescribed.

Honestly, I don't know what you expect us to say? No one here can tell you if you will harm yourself with what you are doing. It's pretty much a fact that the younger you are, the greater the risk when taking psychedelics. That said, mushrooms are more hardcore and uncontrolable than LSD - LSD just lasts longer, a lot longer, and can be more insidious that way.
 
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I took lsd around your age and seriously regret it.

It can open doors in your head that cannot close, and you don't want to potentially end up restricting your future for even the best psychedelic experience.

You can have a negative experience with psychedelics that you can work through in your 20's and up, IME if you accidentally fuck yourself up at your age you'll never recover because you can't repeat those years.
 
i mean, if you've already tried mushrooms, cats out of the bag. its not like lsd is a whole new level or anything, it seems that *most* people find lsd easier to handle mentally than mushrooms anyways, myself included.

my first trips were when i was 15 and aside from some scary experiences, for the most part they were a blast and im glad i made those choices.

now, when i was your age, finding ~12 hours of time to be out of contact with my parents to go do acid was a bit tricky. i don't know the details of your relationship with them, but that is a legitimate concern imo.
 
We should index these sorts of threads because there have been so many replies to this question in the past.... enough so that after reading a certain number of replies (especially well worded ones, ones speaking from experience etc), it will probably hardly change the conclusion drawn and decision made up in someone's mind.

LSD is not more harmful or powerful, but it depends on the dosage how it compares with mushrooms which are qualitatively quite hardcore already.

That trips in the past have gone well already does not mean it's fine to trip at 14. There is no damage done but there is an influence on the development of your mind. Psychedelics are powerful catalysts / mediators of change. This means that you are playing the odds and may very well get that development 'off course' in some way that is impossible to predict or understand until much much later. The reason to start not until an age of something like 18 goes beyond being mature enough, maybe even beyond how well-formed an identity is before you start getting really deep and metaphysical etc.... IMO the greatest reason is that because you are still so early in your development there can be much more of a butterfly effect: any significant experiences and changes affecting your development now will mean that you will keep developing for quite a while in "abnormal" ways.

That there can be positive changes is besides the point, at 18 you are still early enough for such changes to affect the rest of your life but at least you will have some more or less stable foundation (if everything goes right)... there will still be so much time (like in your twenties which is when most trippers experiment a lot) that doing it now is just nothing more than irresponsible impatience and a lack of a mature perspective that lets you weigh the relativity of things and the consequences of your actions.

I did not trip until I was 18 or 19 myself and I was happy about that because of how psychedelics have affected me (in many ways ranging from very bad to very good to immeasurable) over the years.

Having had good trips thus far does not guarantee anything about trips yet to come, regardless of whether they are on mushrooms or LSD... just as the countless trips I have had thus far do not make me immune to going into some drug-induced episode (just as an example). That mushrooms are heavy for a lot of people does not mean either that therefore you can handle anything. For some, LSD is much heavier... it varies.

These are not toys and it has nothing to do with how mature you are or aren't for your age (well I mean, that's only a small part of the matter).

@SSRI's:

Do not assume that there is no interaction. The effects you notice directly from the interaction vary between people, per SSRI and there are various other factors.

SSRI's may in part work because after having taken them for a while (usually some weeks) action of the SSRI on 5-HT1A autoreceptors in your brain cause your synaptic serotonin levels to increase. Suffice to say that the effects on psychedelics are related closely enough that there may be influence on how effective the SSRI is... something you may not notice directly, is not well researched and is again unpredictable.

Lastly: while SSRI's get overprescribed, the reasons leading to you getting them prescribed may also indicate that psychedelics could be risky in other ways.

14 is not an age to fuck with your brain in unforeseeable ways. Damage like how we normally think of damage, is not the right way to think about this. This is about disruption of your developing brain and the risks you take with what will be the natural baseline state of your brain when you are an adult.
My ex took an SSRI since when she was quite young and now she basically can't off them anymore decades later.
 
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For most people SSRI's will diminish the trip heavily, to the point of almost blocking it. The fact that you are even prescribed them at such a young age suggests you have issues that should be solved before trying powerful mind altering drugs.

If you are only 14, you are not mature yet, your brain and personality is still evolving. Basically you are in puberty. Lot's of hormones and your body and mind is still adapting to those changes. I suggest you wait. Let your body and mind go through the changes we all have to go through when moving towards adulthood. There's plenty of time for you to trip on both LSD and shrooms later, they won't magically disappear from earth.

I was 18 when I first took MDMA and LSD. In hindsight, that was borderline. I couldn't have been any younger to handle a powerful LSD trip. It can change your perception of reality and consciousness permanently. What I experienced on my first LSD trips still affect my perception of reality and my mind today, 16 years after. Psychedelics are not toys to play around with. They should be treated with respect. You're not able to undo the changes of perception and reality afterwards, they will stick with you. Do you want or really need that at age 14? Ask yourself that question.
 
I was gonna do acid when I was 13, but I stopped caring by the time I got someone. I think it changes with taste in music. Like if you're into the Grateful Dead and shit you'll probably wanna do acid more than something like heroin or speed, but then you start listening to the Velvet Underground and that kind of thing you want something that just makes you feel different and not something that makes you 'awakened' or whatever. Anyway yeah you're old enough, and you've done mushrooms, too, so you'd be fine. I did mushrooms when I was in Amsterdam before I did acid so I guess it's always a good starting point (they weren't really mushrooms they were just chunks of organic material laced with synthetic psilocybin). Anyway I didn't really even trip do I guess it doesn't count and I can't remember anything that happened before February anyway. So yeah don't worry about it. Just stay safe, stay with a close friend who you trust, don't go into restaurants (like McDonalds and shit like that) because that killed me. I got proper tunnel vision and everyone sounded so loud. Maybe a quiet cafe wouldn't be as bad. I remember I went to a take away but there was no one in there so it wasn't too bad. Anyway just don't be an idiot
 
For most people SSRI's will diminish the trip heavily, to the point of almost blocking it.

For some (people and pills) maybe? not from my experience though. Definitely not "heavily" in any case. I find they pair well, at least subjectively (sertraline + LSD). (For all I know I'd be even more handsome today if only I hadn't mixed the two.)

(Given LSD's action at HT2a (burrying itself inside and closing the door) you wouldn't expect much interaction (it does have affinities for other receptors, but I would argue most of the effects really are due to HT2a--circulating LSD is gone long before the trip is over.)
 
For some (people and pills) maybe? not from my experience though. Definitely not "heavily" in any case. I find they pair well, at least subjectively (sertraline + LSD). (For all I know I'd be even more handsome today if only I hadn't mixed the two.)

(Given LSD's action at HT2a (burrying itself inside and closing the door) you wouldn't expect much interaction (it does have affinities for other receptors, but I would argue most of the effects really are due to HT2a--circulating LSD is gone long before the trip is over.)

Yes, this varies quite much from person to person. E.g. for me mirtazapine actually potentiated psychedelics (though mirtazapine is not an SSRI). Generally, SSRI's diminish the effects of serotonergic drugs, while tricyclic antidepressants can actually potentiate the trip. So this varies, duly noted.

Anyway the point of this thread was a 14 year old teen on antidepressants wanting to take LSD, which I and most others disadvise at this point.
 
Really? OP brain is in the middle of development.

In my opinion he's old enough, and although his brain is definitely still growing, he's been doing mushrooms already and acid isn't really the most neurotoxic drug in the world. If something were to happen and he had a bad trip it was always a risk with mushrooms anyway.
 
I don't accept the notion of a 14 year old teen who is already prescribed antidepressants to use LSD or mushrooms. Nope, I'm not conservative. I honestly think his mind and body should go through at least puberty before indulging in powerful mind altering drugs, that can change your perception of life and existence permanently.

On the other hand I think every adult with an open mind could benefit from a psychedelic trip. But messing with psychedelics when your mind and body already is busy with adapting to the changes on puberty, just no. Simply no. I have given my reaons already in this thread. No, LSD nor shrooms are neurotoxic, but that's not the point here.

If Bluelight honestly is about HR, I can't see how you would recommend powerful psychedelics to the OP.
 
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I agree with the above posters, especially Cyanoide. Take it from people that have been down your path.. there is plenty of time later to try some things if you want to.. and its hip to be a contrarian! Throw out the electronic music and blast some GWAR for God sake!!!
 
. . . although his brain is definitely still growing, he's been doing mushrooms already and acid isn't really the most neurotoxic drug in the world. If something were to happen and he had a bad trip it was always a risk with mushrooms anyway.

Well, he asked if it was "safe" to take LSD. And the short answer is no. The longer answer is the rest of the thread, which is "pretty much no" and then, we have the most "correct" answer, in your post, even if it sure seems like it's ethically wrong.



And I can help but think the shrink is what put him on that road.
Unrelated: Ritalin, the gateway drug?
 
LSD and Mushrooms are the safest drugs you could do. No one saying "dont do drugs" to a teenager is going to prevent them. Whats key is harm minimisation.

When I was 14 I was smoking weed and drinking alcohol. Alcohol is actually far worse for your developing brain in a strict physical sense, but also behaviourally (associated with far more risky behavious, injury, assult etc). Cannabis also impacts the developing brain.

The posters here are primarily concerned with your psychological wellbeing. Which is the major issue here.

When you are an adult you have far more access to resources to help support you. You have far more stability mentally. Your brain is fully developed. Its hard to understand what that means at 14. I certainly didn't. But dealing with problems when the mental shit hits the fan is far easier when you are older.

My advice, given you are already on an SSRI (As mentioned don't assume it wont impact LSD), But also make sure you have some psychological support in your life. A counsellor or better yet a psychologist. This is vital. Given the potential for ongoing and inforeseen psychological ramifications if you want to reduce risk you must be sure to have support in place.

But, I am also unaware of the physical impacts on LSD on a developing brain. So you cannot take my, or any other persons advice on this thread as gospel. Speak to your GP. If they shut you down and say "just dont do it", find a GP who will actually give you the information about the impacts, safe use, harm min and link you in with some psych services..

Do you good support at home ? Parents, a trusted adult?

Developing effective strategies of self care is an important part of growing up. And a major conern here.

All the best
 
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