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If you could look into a crystal ball...

TheAppleCore

TheAppleCore

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...and see yourself NOW, as you would be if you'd never crossed paths with psychedelics... what kind of person do you think you'd see? In what ways would he / she be different from yourself?



I'll go first: honestly, the whole concept is pretty mysterious to me. Some of the psychedelic experiences I've had have been so thoroughly transformative (at the time) that I imagine they must have had a significant influence in some way or another, but the exact nature of this influence is not clear to me.

I think the main difference would be that my anxiety disorder would be much less well tempered, and it would have more far-reaching negative consequences in my life, even to the point of irrational paranoia. Perhaps less importantly, my musical tastes and appreciation would not be as rich.

On the other end of the spectrum, I think that I might be a bit more focused on the practical issues of life, and less mental energy would end up wandering into cosmic philosophical musings, the utility of which is debatable.
 
Probably not so much different than I am now. I enjoy psychedelics, but the life changing aspects never seem to last more than a few days. Now, if I'd never crossed paths with drugs in general...
 
Hmm its an interesting one... my life has changed quite a bit since I first did acid about 2 years ago but its hard to say how much psychedelics have impacted it.

Physically I've lost a lot of weight, exercise regularly, eat healthily and am now vegetarian all of which were deinately not the case 2 years ago. Of all of those becoming vegetarian has the most direct connection to psychedelics as I couldnt stand the idea of eating dead animal meat while tripping (it seemed disgusting but also bad karma or something) and that got me thinking that I shouldnt eat it full stop.

Intellectually I think I've become more postmodern: "characterized by the problem of objective truth and inherent suspicion towards global cultural narrative or meta-narrative. It involves the belief that many, if not all, apparent realities are only social constructs, as they are subject to change inherent to time and place." (wikipedia) But I was already heading that way based on my university studies - acid just provided a powerful practical lesson.

One thing that I can be almost certain of is that I wouldnt like psytrance as much as I do now without psychedelics.
 
Good question, sometimes I think that I really wouldn't be as aware or conscious to a lot of things, that I wouldn't have gone soul searching and went through an identity crisis coming out as a richer person than I ever was before.
But to be honest all of these things could have been catalyzed by other factors. If I never tried any drug I might be more care-free and have a finished college degree but I probably would have significantly less life experience.
I really might be just about the same as I am now, only less intensely myself. Instead I feel myself in exaggeration, for better and worse... both.

Some psychedelic experiences are definitely at the top of my life's peak experiences, they are so majestic that I feel thankful to have received such a gift, thankful to have crossed paths with them, so much even that I could die happily at any moment. I'd rather not though because another part of life is realizing yourself and manifesting more tangibly. That's what I am doing now, releasing my creativity big time.
Either way, it's worth every difficult trip for sure. It would be foolish to reject lessons learned the hard way. There were reasons for that.
 
I wouldn't ask so many damn questions thats for sure.

I feel more aware of everything happening around me, less absorbed in my own world.

Psychedelics helped me define who I am to a greater degree. It has helped me appreciate myself so much more.

My decision making is better. Less anxious.

Love
Friendship
Kindness
Purity
Unity
These all have much deeper roots and meaning in my life. Basically everything seems more intense.

Considering my psychedelic career started in my early 20s, much of this could have all been part of my natural maturing process. The richness and depth, I have to think the psyches are responsible for that.
 
Yes it does, but it is hard to maintain that without either meditating or tripping frequently. The reason is that my emotions are easily blunted by rational and intellectual thought.
Frankly I have been diagnosed recently with PDD-NOS, although it means more than anything that I have to learn how to deal with myself in terms of daily structure and not that I am in other ways noticeably limited.

What does it mean to you, if you were moved to asked that question? :)
 
I had an experience with psychedelic drugs many, many years ago, which has stuck with me and not escaped at least a few moments of conscious consideration every day since then. It left with a deep sense of contentment. The feeling waxes and wanes here and there, but in moments of crisis, there is a steady satisfaction, a knowledge that my existence is good, and that all existence is good, an acceptance of things how they are.

How would I be without it? Eh, probably outwardly about the same. Inwardly quite different. Chop wood, carry water, all that nonsense.
 
if i wouldnt have discovered weed id be a drunk, violent, self-destructing stealing piece of shit. I believe ive learned more from weed then other psychedelics, maybe cuZ ive been doing it for so long.
 
Yeah I agree, it does seem hard to maintain unless I am tripping frequently. For me it is where a lot of the therapeutic aspects come from. I get this feeling that washes over me and its full of love. I can just simply smile back at the complexity of the universe. Empathy for all that is.
 
I definitely wouldn't be the same person I am today, and in a way may not even be here.
My "pre-psyche" mentality was that the world revolved around me, had no compassion for others whatsoever, trusted no one, every day of my life was hell- lived every moment of my life in self pity. I even got to the point of wanting to harm others including myself. I carried a gun around at the age of 13; with suicide as a viable option.
Came from a single family home with a hard working mother who did everything she could to provide for me and my sister - I would steal from my own mother for my personal greed. My father was struggling with his own demons at the time, mainly alcoholism, infidelity, anger - and just not being there for me and my sisters; and I held that over his head at the time- again for my own personal benefit! Self destructive sociopath was the road I was leading. Many of the people I associated with at the time are either locked up or are no longer here.
My "Post-psyche" mentality has helped to change me for the better. The night my dog got shot by my friend with my pistol at my moms house while she was sleeping when we were tripping hard on mushrooms was a turning point, but not entirely, looking back at it now I understood during that trip that I was living a life that was so harmful that it almost cost a human life, at the time my poor feeble mind couldn't comprehend the message to the fullest until now, Thanks OP for creating this thread!!
I am now thankful for every moment of life that I have been given, after losing my father to alcoholism I have re-evaluated my life and the meaning behind it all with the aid of psyches. I have learned that all the emotional baggage one endures through their life can severely weigh them down to the point of not living a happy life or worse becoming ill, unfortunately such as my fathers case. In my case I have struggled through debilitating migraines and developed 'graves disease' somehow (no family history). Now, I havent had a headache in almost a year (longest it has ever been) my thyroid levels have improved. Being blessed with a daughter this spring, things have only gotten better for me. I will always be grateful for these tools!
 
I fear that I would be dead.

There have been a couple occasions now where psychedelics have elevated me from depression, I feel that if this had never happened or nothing else drastic happened, I would have killed myself a long time ago.
 
Just glad I got to experience a few longlasting full blown acid trips and came out smiling :) It certainly impacted my way of looking at life but to be sure I'm a better person...? Don't know...

I just hope people can continue to explore themselves without hurting themselves.

I think psychedelic drugs and drugs in general and even maybe life, made me more humble.
 
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