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If I ate ambien 10 mg 3 times a day would I be less of a worthless piece shit?

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So heres the deal I take it to sleep but one of the side effects is it makes me real ambitious like I want to up and move to alligator/craw fishing in LA next week b/c that will make me happy and I could see myself happy living this life. In theory if I took this drug 3x a day would I get this ambition enough to actually change my predicament. I just need to for a bit to get me out of this dead inside; opiate slump. Lol its heavy but some thoughts would be helpful 8(
 
It would get you high for a few days, then just like all other benzos/z-drugs, get you less and less high each day, and in a couple-few weeks that dosage will be useless and you will be physically dependent on Ambien, which could lead to being an even more "worthless piece of shit."

Moderation is the key to life.
 
Ambien is for sleeping. Why in the hell would you use it for anything else?

Take it, stay awake for a good 30 minutes, trip balls, pass out. Only use I see in it.
 
It is like a benzo (non-benzo z drug), so I'm sure there's some anxiolysis and sloppy drunk feeling to the high. I've personally never tried Z-drugs since other things like Melatonin, Doxylamine, Magnesium, and Metoprolol work for sleep. If I want to trip, I'll drop some acid ;)

I'm curious about the high, but it can't be good for you, tripping that hard just to get to sleep on a regular basis. Also, it sounds like it could mess up your tryptamine tolerance if you abuse it or use it regularly, since it works on 5-HT2A, iirc.
 
Well, here are some of my thoughts. I think you should do what you want with your life. If you truly want to move down to LA, and hunt alligators and fish for crawfish, why not? I say, if that is where your heart is, go for it. Hell, even if you aren't completely sure, why not try it to help get you out of this "slump" you are going through. I see the predicament you face, though, if I am reading this right. You lack the drive/motivation to actually do anything that would change your situation, and this is a symptom which has a name in psychiatry - avolition. I do not know how opiates relate to this, but this "slump" does need fixing for better quality of life. I assumming that you are an (ex?) opiate-addict, or are currently in the throws of a troubling addiction. If you are really suffering due to problems with opiate addiction or lack of opiates after the acute wd's, I might suggest buprenorphine maintenance such as with Suboxone or Subutex. It can help heaps with opiate addiction, providing a nice opioid mood-lift (esp. at lower doses), and helping to keep satisfied with less cravings or desire for other opiates. It also has a blockade effect which make most other opioids inactive upon taking them, however at lower doses this is not always the case. I will say for opioid-maintenance therapy, I'd recommend buprenorphine in most cases before considering methadone.

Another type of drug I might suggest would be amphetamine (pharmaceutical), and in low doses daily or as needed, trying to use as little as possible, overall. Drugs like Adderall (XR), Vyvanse, and Dexedrine (Spansule) are all amphetamines, and can help with avolition and depression in general. They, in fact, can help reduce cravings for drugs while on them due to the fact that they already provide a "high" of sorts, even at lower doses, however this is not the case for everyone, and amphetamine use in people who are/have been addicted to other drugs can worsen their condition, usually causing amphetamine addiction. They are serious drugs, like most with addictive potential, but can be of use depending on individual circumstance.

Benzodiazepines, which are very much like z-drugs such as Ambien (zolpidem), may have a similar effect on you as the Ambien does, however, I am not sure I would advise the use of these unless significant anxiety or panic is present and causing these issues. They can be used daily or as needed, for these purposes. I think what you are taking from the Ambien more than anything is the disinhibtion it provides you, esp. with regard to your judgement. This effect is not always bad as benzos can help with those who worry to much over what they do, for example. With regard to using Ambien during the daytime for purposes other than sleep, I would caution you a few things. First, do NOT take the Ambien daily during the daytime everyday. Taking it in this fashion could land you in a nasty z-drug addiction which would be very like a benzo addiction, and the Ambien would lose this effect it has on you I would guess. If you want to use it during the daytime, I would suggest starting with a very low dose, perhaps even as low as 1.25 mg as needed for this temporary purpose. If you can function w/o trouble on this dose, but it is helping you, stick with it. If you are fine with the dose, but it is not helping, go up to 2.5 mg. At the maximum I would suggest 5 mg during the daytime as needed, and would not go any higher than this. Even this would be a high dose during the daytime, so like I said start low and go slow. If you really want to use these therapeutically, do not seek to get "high", only help you along a little in helping with what it seems to help with. So, do not increase the dose to a point where you are not fit for daytime functioning, just because you want to feel the recreational effects better. Also, make sure you are VERY cautious in doing anything requiring attention such as driving, for example. I would avoid such activities completely with the Ambien, even at very low doses. You may not think you are impaired while you are taking it, but this is because it can be subtle and it does impair judgement, but serious impairment in attention, motor skills etc. is very likely. I would not recommend continuing with the Ambien during the daytime, unless you only use it ocassionally when you feel you need to. I would not use it at all during the daytime, if you have no tolerance.

There are other things that can help with your troubles such as psychotherpay and different sub-varieties, as well as other therapies. Hope you get out of this slump. Do not take 10 mg Ambien 3 x daily, this is a BAD idea.
 
IME Tolerance rises far to quickly with Z Drugs for me even faster than straight Benzos but that is probably becuase they are so short acting compared to the Benzos I tend to take.

Even for sleep I found them pretty useless after a week and even before that they only give you a very short window wheer the drug helps you drop off.

I've taken allot more than you are stating daily due to pure stupidity and TBH was very much underwhelmed especially after a couple of days when the tolerance kicked in and I got no effect at all. WDwas not very pleasant after longer term use at just 10-20 per day. Vicious insomnia and a general feeling of agitation.

I'd leave the stuff well alone, I'm not entirely sure what kind of enhancement you are seeking but I can be pretty sure you won't find it with Zolpidem (Ambien as you guys call it over the pond:))
 
I think you need to work on your mental health yourself rather than expect Ambien to magically help you. And I highly doubt it would help you anyway. Maybe try reading some self-help books, find some hobbies or things you like to do, get more exercise, try yoga, things like that. I know those things take more work and time, but drugs don't solve anything, they just mask the symptoms temporarily, and taking a drug that you were not prescribed that is not even meant for the purpose is not going to help you in the long-term, it will likely make things even worse. Maybe you should see a good doctor and therapist and find out if you have depression or ADHD. I know how hard it is having trouble with feeling un-motivated, I have that a lot myself, but self-medicating with Ambien is not the answer.

Also you are NOT a "worthless piece of shit". You need to learn how to have compassion for yourself. Feeling worthless and guilty are just making things much worse.
 
Im sorry, I didn't read one word of this thread. I just wanted to say that the thread title made me LMAO for real.
Carry on.
 
See a therapist or psych and get the source of your feeling like a piece of shit problem fixed. Drugs are like putting a bandaid on a gash that requires 30 stitches. Helps for a bit then you get and infection on your open wound and even more shit hits the fan.
 
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