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If I admit to my dr I'm an addict...
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cj
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I doubt it its gonna end up her word vs his and shes on probation so who will be believed? The boys in blue protect there own we should take that lesson to heart.
whippa craka
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I don't think you see the potential in this. Suing government for wrongdoing is CRAZY profitable if they broke the law.
BabyGurl3171
Bluelighter
I asked for them back, he said no and took 'em. He's a probation OFFICER, wth else could I do??
BabyGurl3171
Bluelighter
I will! And thanks for all the advice, all of you!
I'm currently waitin on a "gift" of oxy's to show up
I sure as hell am not gonna risk SS or kidney failure.Looks like this could be 2 suits bc I told this dick po that Tramadol would be the only other option and explained the Effexor/Tramadol risk. His reply? Well, quit the Effexor (I've been on it for almost 4 yrs) or take the "leap". I wish sooo much I could get a new po but I'm on this hope program bc it's my first charge and there's one po that handles it.
Wth! I'll call my atty tmrw and just nose around to see if I've got anything.
Brian242
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I will! And thanks for all the advice, all of you!
I'm currently waitin on a "gift" of oxy's to show up
Looks like this could be 2 suits bc I told this dick po that Tramadol would be the only other option and explained the Effexor/Tramadol risk. His reply? Well, quit the Effexor (I've been on it for almost 4 yrs) or take the "leap". I wish sooo much I could get a new po but I'm on this hope program bc it's my first charge and there's one po that handles it.
Wth! I'll call my atty tmrw and just nose around to see if I've got anything.
By the way you sound, he has no reason to be treating you like this. it's not like you robbed a store for a balloon of Heroin or something! Best wishes with your attorney!
radiationman
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Wow... I just finished reading that entire thread. That is some crazy shit babygurl. If the judge ordered you to keep taking all prescribed meds and this PO just drops in and "confiscates" your medicine, then I hope he gets whats coming. After all who doesn't like to get a little high, albeit alcohol, benzos, whatever.
Best of luck to you and I hope this situation turns out in your favor!
Best of luck to you and I hope this situation turns out in your favor!
BabyGurl3171
Bluelighter
Thank you! I sold 5 freakin demerol pills to (unknown at the time) a cop's "baby mama". Personally I think it's a waste of tax payers money to even mess with lil people like me but whatever.
I told dickhead I understood he probably gets lied to and what not everyday but since July I have done NOTHING wrong. Hell, I call to get permission to go to my psych's bc he's in a diff county. Not to mention I'm on Ambien and diazepam, both which aren't allowed, but he never asks to see those.
radiationman - Thank you very much. I am a lil scared he'll start fuckin with me bc I called his boss. Then again, he may end up not bein my po...a po anymore.
nAON
Bluelight Crew
Kidney shit can be a symptom of SS, you should stop taking either the tramadol or effexor like, now. In severe serotonin syndrome, your muscle tissue starts to break down and so much protein enters the bloodstream that it cannot be filtered by kidneys properly, which causes the problems.
Hopefully you can get this shit sorted. Who was it that recommended Tramadol? If it was your PO, he's certainly not in a position to give any medical advice, particularly if it's actually causing you harm. Make sure to write all this down, and try and get evidence from your doctor about what caused your kidney problems, to ascertain whether or not it was caused by the tramadol inducing SS.
Hopefully you can get this shit sorted. Who was it that recommended Tramadol? If it was your PO, he's certainly not in a position to give any medical advice, particularly if it's actually causing you harm. Make sure to write all this down, and try and get evidence from your doctor about what caused your kidney problems, to ascertain whether or not it was caused by the tramadol inducing SS.
BabyGurl3171
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The PO told me to take it even after I told him the whole Tramadol/Effexor thing. Then said po called my ortho and told him to only give me Tramadol. My ortho told me that himself and said that my po said he would call the dr back after my appt. I'll find out Tuesday what he told my ortho and Wednesday what's goin on with my kidneys. If it's something permanent with my kidneys and it was due to the Tramadol I'll be catchin a number for punchin this dick in his throat!
Brian242
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If he starts fuckin' with ya, have a voice recorder or camera for backup proof!
You're actually pretty brave. Most people would think that they're supposed to do that but the PO's aren't. Let this thread be a lesson to anyone who gets into trouble and needs a PO!
nAON
Bluelight Crew
BG, i'd suggest reading up or contacting a lawyer to get more info, whether or not as a PO if he's authorised to make such medical decisions, and what you can do legally if you suffered medical problems as a direct result of his interference in your medical treatment.
BabyGurl3171
Bluelighter
Thanks
I was quite pissed he took my oxy's for both reasons! Lol No but really, Lord knows who else he's "bullyin" and takin their pills. Oh, and I'm proud of this, 49 total drug tests so far and all CLEAN. So this fuck has issues...nAON - Thanks. Imma call my atty tmrw and see where I stand on my po takin my meds and possibly causin kidney trouble. My lawyer is a damn good atty and he's cool so I'll just call for advice as to what to do now & if I need to start gatherin "evidence".
radiationman
Bluelighter
I just can't get over the whole issue of this PO's power trip! Why are doctors listening to this person if they aren't themselves a doctor/trained in medicine?
PS - Sorry for the derail mods... woot woot, 50th post BLers!
PS - Sorry for the derail mods... woot woot, 50th post BLers!
BabyGurl3171
Bluelighter
Well, I believe (can't prove) that he failed to identify himself as a po. Why? Because first of all when he was out here he made a comment to the other po about my ortho thinkin he was a dr. I said no, I never told them you were a dr and he laughed slightly and said no it wasn't you. Then, second point, my ortho comes in and says who is this <po's name> ass? Lol I love my ortho. I told my dr and he said well he told me he's now runnin the show and you can only have Tramadol, I'm sorry. Man, I was pissed! I think my dr was too. I've actually known my ortho dr since '98. He even told me this guy is an ass. I told him he didn't know the half of it.
Congrats on becomin a bluelighter!
ihatepipes
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I would not admit to being an addict to a Dr. as others have said before. The problem with admitting you are an addict/have a problem with pharmaceuticals is that if you are ever really in need of pain relief, anxiety relief, insomnia relief etc. you might have problems getting appropriate treatment thanks to the fucked up situation in the U.S. concerning the war on drugs/DEA breathing down the necks of compassionate doctors. I have no idea how being flagged as a drug seeker really works in the U.S. but I have heard plenty of stories of people who have been and now they can't get prescribed shit even if they really truly need it.
Your best bet is just to tell him you want to stop taking whatever meds you are on and work with him to come up with a taper plan.
If drugs are really causing you a lot of problems in your life and you can't force yourself to do this and actually follow through with the taper then the best bet might be to tell the doctor you are in fact addicted in the psychological sense (negative in the eyes of Dr's) versus being physically addicted (not as negative because DR's know this is going to occur when they prescribe a drug that produces dependence).
It is ashame that there is such a stigmatization of a situation (becoming both psychologically and physically dependent) which is 99.9% of the time inevitable in long term use. We really need a sensible drug policy here in the U.S. however I am not sure if that is ever likely to happen. Until then be careful what you do or say because you could really hurt yourself in the long run.
BTW selling pills is bad and when people get busted for it it makes it harder for people who really need pharmaceutical drugs to get them. Please have some compassion for both yourself (it seems like you really do need meds regardless of whether you abuse them or not), and have some compassion for people who might need pharmaceutical drugs in the future. I say this because if things continue as they are now i.e. diversion and whatnot the government is going to seriously crack down even more on the prescribing of narcotics and things will be worse than they are now.
Your best bet is just to tell him you want to stop taking whatever meds you are on and work with him to come up with a taper plan.
If drugs are really causing you a lot of problems in your life and you can't force yourself to do this and actually follow through with the taper then the best bet might be to tell the doctor you are in fact addicted in the psychological sense (negative in the eyes of Dr's) versus being physically addicted (not as negative because DR's know this is going to occur when they prescribe a drug that produces dependence).
It is ashame that there is such a stigmatization of a situation (becoming both psychologically and physically dependent) which is 99.9% of the time inevitable in long term use. We really need a sensible drug policy here in the U.S. however I am not sure if that is ever likely to happen. Until then be careful what you do or say because you could really hurt yourself in the long run.
BTW selling pills is bad and when people get busted for it it makes it harder for people who really need pharmaceutical drugs to get them. Please have some compassion for both yourself (it seems like you really do need meds regardless of whether you abuse them or not), and have some compassion for people who might need pharmaceutical drugs in the future. I say this because if things continue as they are now i.e. diversion and whatnot the government is going to seriously crack down even more on the prescribing of narcotics and things will be worse than they are now.
BabyGurl3171
Bluelighter
Thanks for all the info!
As for it gettin worse with this war on drugs shit, it already has. I don't know if this is just an Ohio law that has passed or if it's a federal law but my pcp told me that even if he wanted to, he couldn't prescribe any opiates for a long term use anymore. The law says if it's goin to be an on goin basis, like back pain or in my case RLS and atrodystrphy, you have to go to pain management. And I don't know about other places but the lousy ONE pain dr we have is a jackass. He will only do steriods shots. I mean wtf is that?! Ugh! Before this damn law I was gettin a steady supply of oxy. Not now @@.
ihatepipes
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There are some PCPs that will prescribe opiates to people that they have a long term doctor patient relationship with. However if these people fuck up i.e. display drug seeking behavior/signs of drug addiction or in some cases the imagination of a paranoid doctor they are then referred to pain management. This can also happen in some cases if a person becomes a liability i.e. gets in trouble and the doctor finds out about it and forces you to pain management because he is too scared to treat you anymore. I have found that there are still compassionate doctors out there who will help people by giving them the benefit of the doubt but most doctors seeing a new patient with chronic pain will also be referred to pain management immediately. I f you have a source of that law other than what your doctor says I would appreciate you posting it because I have never seen anything in the press about it.. The reason I ask you to do this is because I think doctors lie about prescribing pain medicine. Recently my dad asked his PCP to treat him again so he wouldn't have to drive 1:30 round trip to see a pain management doctor. His PCP said no they can not prescribe him his pain meds anymore they don't for anybody. Couple weeks later my dad goes back to get non narcotic prescriptions they give him the wrong envelope with a script in it for 80 mg OC 3 x a day 90 tablets total and percocet 10 325 4 a day. they lie to avoid the conversation I think.
BabyGurl3171
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Bill to keep docs from dispensing
narcotics, end pain clinic
registration, passes House
committee
After 90 minutes of testimony and
debate a House committtee on
Thursday passed a bill that would
prohibit doctors from dispensing pain
medications and end registration and
inspections of pain clinics. The bill also
would require wholesole distributors to
report who is buying the drugs so law
enforcement offficials can investigate
unusually large purchases.
Bill sponsor Robert Schenck , a
Republican from Spring Hill who
introduced the committee bill, a top
priority for House Speaker Dean
Cannon , said it "cuts the head off the
snake" of the state's prescription drug
abuse problem by hitting suppliers.
"A lot of the regulations we have tried in
the past have not worked and are killing
businesses," Schenck said. Schenck said
the regulations of pain clinics aren't
necessary if they can't prescribe the
medications anymore.
Others, though, argued that many
legitimate doctors dispense pain
medications, and if the law passes it
would hurt their businesses. Plus, some
argued, there are rural areas where the
number of pharmacies are limited and
it's easier for patients to get
medications from physicians. And
finally, some said that bad doctors
could still set up pharmacies or make
arrangements with pharmacies so they
could continue overprescribing.
Even those who voted in favor of the bill
(the final count was 13-5, with
Democrat Bernard Mack casting his
vote with Republican committee
members), acknowledged the bill has
problems.
"This does represent an intrusion into
the medical practice," said Paige
Kreegel , a Republican from Punta
Gorda. "This bill is far from perfect and
it needs a lot of work. But I think it is a
start."
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narcotics, end pain clinic
registration, passes House
committee
After 90 minutes of testimony and
debate a House committtee on
Thursday passed a bill that would
prohibit doctors from dispensing pain
medications and end registration and
inspections of pain clinics. The bill also
would require wholesole distributors to
report who is buying the drugs so law
enforcement offficials can investigate
unusually large purchases.
Bill sponsor Robert Schenck , a
Republican from Spring Hill who
introduced the committee bill, a top
priority for House Speaker Dean
Cannon , said it "cuts the head off the
snake" of the state's prescription drug
abuse problem by hitting suppliers.
"A lot of the regulations we have tried in
the past have not worked and are killing
businesses," Schenck said. Schenck said
the regulations of pain clinics aren't
necessary if they can't prescribe the
medications anymore.
Others, though, argued that many
legitimate doctors dispense pain
medications, and if the law passes it
would hurt their businesses. Plus, some
argued, there are rural areas where the
number of pharmacies are limited and
it's easier for patients to get
medications from physicians. And
finally, some said that bad doctors
could still set up pharmacies or make
arrangements with pharmacies so they
could continue overprescribing.
Even those who voted in favor of the bill
(the final count was 13-5, with
Democrat Bernard Mack casting his
vote with Republican committee
members), acknowledged the bill has
problems.
"This does represent an intrusion into
the medical practice," said Paige
Kreegel , a Republican from Punta
Gorda. "This bill is far from perfect and
it needs a lot of work. But I think it is a
start."
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