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Idiots Who Are Pro-drug and Think Drugs Are Bad for You

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Na, im done. I take that back, saying "drugs do harm" really I meant, drugs as in the form that people abuse. Not drugs that people take to increase memory and alertness like Ginko or whatever you happen to be taking for your final. But whatever, im done talking about it.
 
Tritoch said:
You know the type, right?

The only reason I stopped being against drugs is because I learned that their not really bad for you. But there are people out there who use drugs under the false impression that they're harming themselves. It's the mentality of: I can afford to lose a few brain cells

...little do they know, they haven't lost any 8(

The reason I'm starting this thread is because today I was talking to pot-smokers who thought pot killed brain cells (8( )

One of 'em even said to me that the reason you hallucinate on mushrooms is because they induce a fever in you (because "they're poisonous - 'shrooms are poisonous mushrooms"), and people always hallucinate when they have high fevers 8( 8( 8(

(He's never done mushrooms by the way)

These kinds of people get on my nerves even more than people who are against drugs and don't use them, because they believe all the propaganda and yet they use drugs anyway, meaning they don't have any respect for themselves.

People who are against drugs have a good reason not to use drugs, whereas these people don't have a good reason to use drugs :)
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At what point in that post was it specified wether the thread is specifically about physical, mental or emotional damage.

For that matter, why are people using the excuse that forms of damage other than physical are exempt from the discussion.
 
Tritoch said:
People have sidetracked this thread by bringing up addiction and things like that. I'm talking about the idea that getting high is the result of direct organic harm.
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For some drugs it is, for others it is just an imbalance of chemicals already in the body. In the case of the latter, extended use often ruins the bodys normal rhythm, causing damage.
 
qwedsa said:
so these molecules that i take during finals week that increase blood flow to the brain, act as neuroprotectants, have no toxicity or neurotoxicity issues, increase memory, attention, alertness, and creativity on rigorous psychological tests, are harmful just because they're drugs?

you're the one who's generalizing, to an absurd extent. just because a molecule happens to fit into a receptor does not mean it's toxic

in fact, many molecules that do fit in the receptors do so because they are so closely related to endogenous molecules (which obviously generally are nontoxic)

cite me a paper demonstrating neurotoxicity of heroin or other opiates (besides at heavy frequent long term doses, but thats not what the OP was talking about), pot, LSD, mushrooms, or valium/benzos, and ill take back everything ive said
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Your post may not have been directed at me. However, ill point out that i did not generalise. I never said all drugs are bad, i said all drugs can be both beneficial and harmful.

Like my above post, who says neurotoxicity is the only form of damage drugs can do.
 
purplefirefly said:
So people who do meth are doing absolutely no harm to themselves every time they use? They are causing organic harm each time that they use, and this harm gets progressively worse the more they use.

Can you please explain why you think that there aren't any drugs that cause damage?
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Meth isn't inherently bad for you. Meth is fine.
 
qwedsa said:
^he was generalizing about drugs, i noticed it too. but his idea was that most drugs dont have the toxicity, he said so in a later post
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Why are you speculating what he thinks? Where did he say that? I saw YOU post that, but not the OP

I really like how you left out stimulants from your list of "popular" drugs. Because stimulants definitely are not popular, and they definitely don't cause any NEGATIVE long term effects.

And of course i am being facetious, if you couldn't tell.
 
^^(at Tritoch) lol, ok thanks for that Tritoch, tell us wether you feel that way after, lets say even 2 weeks of addiction.
 
Tritoch said:
Meth isn't inherently bad for you. Meth is fine.
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Yeah meth is great for you...it definitely doesn't cause any type of neurotoxicity at all. I mean...a little psychosis never hurt anybody right? And staying up for days at a time is great for your all around health.

:p

This thread is beyond stupid.
 
I really should have been more specific in my OP. Too many unknown variables have arisen as a result of not being specific enough.

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qwedsa said:
so these molecules that i take during finals week that increase blood flow to the brain, act as neuroprotectants, have no toxicity or neurotoxicity issues, increase memory, attention, alertness, and creativity on rigorous psychological tests, are harmful just because they're drugs?

you're the one who's generalizing, to an absurd extent. just because a molecule happens to fit into a receptor does not mean it's toxic

in fact, many molecules that do fit in the receptors do so because they are so closely related to endogenous molecules (which obviously generally are nontoxic)

cite me a paper demonstrating neurotoxicity of heroin or other opiates (besides at heavy frequent long term doses, but thats not what the OP was talking about), pot, LSD, mushrooms, or valium/benzos, and ill take back everything ive said
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^ In case you missed his post - it's very good.

And as far as long-term abuse, you're body eventually recovers, and that doesn't go with the popular belief that drugs cause permanent damage.
 
Rated E said:
^^(at Tritoch) lol, ok thanks for that Tritoch, tell us wether you feel that way after, lets say even 2 weeks of addiction.
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If you can't stay on topic, don't post in my thread.

Me said:
People have sidetracked this thread by bringing up addiction and things like that. I'm talking about the idea that getting high is the result of direct organic harm.
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^^ Dont tell me where i can and cant post.

Off topic?? It was a direct comment to your post.
 
Tritoch said:
I really should have been more specific in my OP. Too many unknown variables have arisen as a result of not being specific enough.

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^ In case you missed his post - it's very good.

And as far as long-term abuse, you're body eventually recovers, and that doesn't go with the popular belief that drugs cause permanent damage.
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I replied to qwedsa's post already. In case you missed it, my basic point was:

Since when is physical damage the only damage caused by drugs.

What are you arguing? That drugs arent physically harmful. We're talking about drug use genius. That means what happens when they are taken, so all forms of damage need to be taken into account.

You throw the term 'ignorance' quite alot. Seems ironic to me..
 
I didn't go and read through all the posts, but I'm sure someone mentioned somethgin liike this.

I reallt hate the people who think drinking booze is all find and dandy but doing drugs is thr worst thing. I hate it when I get that crap. "smoking pot is so much worst for you'. Yeah, bullshit

I Hate dumb people
 
Rated E said:
I replied to qwedsa's post already. In case you missed it, my basic point was:

Since when is physical damage the only damage caused by drugs.

What are you arguing? That drugs arent physically harmful. We're talking about drug use genius. That means what happens when they are taken, so all forms of damage need to be taken into account.

You throw the term 'ignorance' quite alot. Seems ironic to me..
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I meant for this thread to only be about physical damage. You should have picked up on taht because this entire thread is about the faulty notion that drugs get you high because they poison you.

EDIT: Or that you "pay the price" for the high with your health
 
Voodoochild870 said:
I didn't go and read through all the posts, but I'm sure someone mentioned somethgin liike this.

I reallt hate the people who think drinking booze is all find and dandy but doing drugs is thr worst thing. I hate it when I get that crap. "smoking pot is so much worst for you'. Yeah, bullshit

I Hate dumb people
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I hate that attitude to, its hard to argue that to people while there drunk though haha:)
 
Tritoch said:
I meant for this thread to only be about physical damage. You should have picked up on taht because this entire thread is about the faulty notion that drugs get you high because they poison you.

EDIT: Or that you "pay the price" for the high with your health
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Ok well you didnt say it was only about physical damage. Even so, why shouldnt we consider the other forms of damage?

I agree, You dont neccessarily "pay the price" for the high with your health. Although you do need some time to recover afterwards.

EDIT: If everyones sick of arguing i guess we can go back to what the threads about. Tritoch, maybe a post to put things back on track :)
 
This thread is terrible.

The majority of heated comments look like they're being made by people that have NO training in pharmacology at all.
 
Chubba75 said:
This thread is terrible.

The majority of heated comments look like they're being made by people that have NO training in pharmacology at all.
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It also doesn't help that the OP is being vague as fuck and is expecting everyone to somehow read his mind.
 
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