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Idiots Who Are Pro-drug and Think Drugs Are Bad for You

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qwedsa said:
i believe they'd say... that must be his addiction talking!

And I would say, 'just because someones a drug user doesn't mean they're a fucking addict..idiots" :)
 
trancegirle said:
I think i now fall into this category. I know everyones going to flame me - go ahead but il tell you my personal reasons for feeling this way.
Il also add i dont push my opinion onto anyone.
I dont believe i have any right to influence peoples decicions and & i dont really want to.

Mdma/meth are the drugs that i am talking about too. After 3 years of using these on a regular bases ive come to realise that i am not as mentally sharp as before my use.
It has had a permanent negetive effect on me & i believe if a drug can do that, its not worth it, these are my personal feelings, i know there are definate exeptions.

Over the years ive become more depressed than i ever was, i have almost lost my ability to naturally feel emotions like extreme happyness and sadness without the use of drugs. Im always in the mid range.
It has affected my memory - therefore ability to learn. Its known to do this & to think otherwise is ignorant imo.

When i have a break i can feel myself going back to normal. Im feeling things, im remembering things, im quiet skinny, not sickly but when im not doing drugs i get comments like - you look healthy.

Ive only recently discovered this in myself and its hard to accept that & just completely stop something that ive had A LOT of great, fun times with over the years.

Thats why im somewhat against & still do them.

sorry for the long as rant!!
perhaps you should switch to the drugs i mentioned 3 posts above:)
 
Tritoch said:
You know the type, right?

The only reason I stopped being against drugs is because I learned that their not really bad for you. But there are people out there who use drugs under the false impression that they're harming themselves. It's the mentality of: I can afford to lose a few brain cells

...little do they know, they haven't lost any 8(

The reason I'm starting this thread is because today I was talking to pot-smokers who thought pot killed brain cells (8( )

One of 'em even said to me that the reason you hallucinate on mushrooms is because they induce a fever in you (because "they're poisonous - 'shrooms are poisonous mushrooms"), and people always hallucinate when they have high fevers 8( 8( 8(

(He's never done mushrooms by the way)

These kinds of people get on my nerves even more than people who are against drugs and don't use them, because they believe all the propaganda and yet they use drugs anyway, meaning they don't have any respect for themselves.

People who are against drugs have a good reason not to use drugs, whereas these people don't have a good reason to use drugs :)

your theory is seriously flawed. heres why in order of what i have bolded...

1. Drugs used responsibly are not terrible for you, but any foreign substance in your body over a period of time is going to cause problems. And thats not the only way they can be bad. Put it this way, if drugs werent bad, Bluelight would not be around.

2. I dont know why i bolded that second one.

3. Some propoganda is not propoganda. Believe it or not, some of that stuff the government tells you is somewhat true. Believing drugs are flat out not bad for you is not having respect for yourself.

If all this has been said already, im sorry, i didnt read any replies yet, im in a hurry (hurry to not forget my thoughts)
 
SmC said:
And I would say, 'just because someones a drug user doesn't mean they're a fucking addict..idiots" :)
they'd say... you're just rationalizing your addiction. and if you aren't (unlikely chance) you're on a downward spiral to it, whether you know it or not!
 
Just doing a quick look up of my own:

A number of studies indicate that THC may provide medical benefits for cancer and AIDS patients by increasing appetite and decreasing nausea, and by blocking the spread of some cancer-causing Herpes simplex viruses. It has been shown to assist some glaucoma patients by reducing pressure within the eye, and is used in the form of cannabis by a number of multiple sclerosis patients to relieve the spasms associated with their condition.

And:

Studies also indicate a variety of negative effects associated with constant, long-term use, including short-term memory loss. However, other studies have refuted this, claiming the MRIs of long term users show little or no difference to MRIs of the non-using control group. The long-term effects of THC on humans have been disputed because its status as an illegal drug makes research difficult.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol


People can say what they want on the internet, regardless of whether it is true or not.
 
qwedsa said:
they'd say... you're just rationalizing your addiction. and if you aren't (unlikely chance) you're on a downward spiral to it, whether you know it or not!

And I would say..actually, i've never been further from it and coudn't give a fuck what they think, you judge me without knowing me? Ignorance at its best!:)
 
SmC said:
Fair enough( in reply to the seeker), just seem to me you were being anti-drugs though. All drugs have some negative affects, no doubt, just got to use them properly! What I intend to do is every month so on week where i can afford it, is go on an lsd or mdma(or both) binge and then have a month off(or 2, depends on the availability of them) and do the same again.


Oh God forbid, I was being anti drugs LOL.
 
Indo said:
Although I'm not saying whether it is wrong or right, the site probably has some bias.



Doesn't sound like an objective site.


it's largely a pro drug website.
 
Tritoch said:
You know the type, right?

The only reason I stopped being against drugs is because I learned that their not really bad for you. But there are people out there who use drugs under the false impression that they're harming themselves. It's the mentality of: I can afford to lose a few brain cells

...little do they know, they haven't lost any 8(

The reason I'm starting this thread is because today I was talking to pot-smokers who thought pot killed brain cells (8( )

One of 'em even said to me that the reason you hallucinate on mushrooms is because they induce a fever in you (because "they're poisonous - 'shrooms are poisonous mushrooms"), and people always hallucinate when they have high fevers 8( 8( 8(

(He's never done mushrooms by the way)

These kinds of people get on my nerves even more than people who are against drugs and don't use them, because they believe all the propaganda and yet they use drugs anyway, meaning they don't have any respect for themselves.

People who are against drugs have a good reason not to use drugs, whereas these people don't have a good reason to use drugs :)

Hate to burst your bubble (no i dont really). Drugs can be and most definitely are bad for you in a lot of ways. Yes there can be benefits from taking drugs, if they are used in the correct way. So whats your problem, drug users that know the damage they are doing yet still use? They sound like intelligent people to me, more so than you. At least there not ignorant enough to say 'man everyone was wrong all this time, drugs are really good for you, wow i cant believe no one else figured it out!!' Sure, the government does give out very biased and sometimes even false information, that doesnt mean that drugs are completely harmless.

The example you gave of the kid and the 'poisonous mushrooms' was an example of someonewho believes the myths and urban legends associated with drugs. Now these people annoy me. But they are not to be confused with drug users who are smart enough to at least recognise the damage that the drugs they take have the potential to do. Which seems to be who you are identifying when you say "Idiots Who Are Pro-drug and Think Drugs Are Bad for You". Believe it or not, there are also 'idiots who are pro-drug and think drugs are good for you'. Then there are 'intelligent people who are pro or anti drug who realise that drugs can be good and bad for you'.

Its called 'harm minimisation', not 'ignore tha harm all together'.
 
the seeker said:
Oh God forbid, I was being anti drugs LOL.


Well then you're an idiot. You're anti-drug just because they have some negative affects?(and those largely depend on your mindstate at the time before taking them)
 
SmC said:
Well then you're an idiot. You're anti-drug just because they have some negative affects

The only reason you would be anti-"anything" is because it has a negative effect.
 
SmC said:
Well then you're an idiot. You're anti-drug just because they have some negative affects?(and those largely depend on your mindstate at the time before taking them)


i was mocking you for acting like being anti drugs was such a bad thing. i use drugs myself, i simply recognize that their use goes along with inherent risks and side affects unlike many of the people here.
 
Indo said:
The only reason you would be anti-"anything" is because it has a negative effect.

Well, the positives outweigh the negatives to me. I only ever have negative effects when i'm at a bad point in my life and shouldn't be doing them anyway!
 
^^ Well thats great, your obviously pro drug. So am i, but i dont call people who are anti drug idiots. Wether drugs are good or bad isnt fact, its an opinion.
 
the seeker said:
i was mocking you for acting like being anti drugs was such a bad thing. i use drugs myself, i simply recognize that their use goes along with inherent risks and side affects unlike many of the people here.


Anti-drugs is a bad thing, because it shows you're not properly educated on the subject and just let your fear takeover on it, which leads to you missing out in the end. I dunno about you but the only side-affects i've had from drugs have been positive!
 
Rated E said:
^^ Well thats great, your obviously pro drug. So am i, but i dont call people who are anti drug idiots. Wether drugs are good or bad isnt fact, its an opinion.

Sorry, but anyone who isn't educated on the subject is usually anti-drug, and thats what I find to be idiotic.
 
SmC said:
Anti-drugs is a bad thing, because it shows you're not properly educated on the subject and just let your fear takeover on it, which leads to you missing out in the end. I dunno about you but the only side-affects i've had from drugs have been positive!


umm i am properly educated on the subject. i probably know more about drugs than you do and yet in my opinion they're still bad most of the time.
 
Well i've used lsd and mdma reasonably well and it hasn't exactly done anything bad to me, yes i've bad trips, but have always come out good in the end, and even stronger for it. It depends on which drugs you're talking about here, I tend to stick to lsd/mdma and my interest extends to k, shrooms and weed.(all of which ive tried) Drugs like heroin/speed(and sometimes weed) can fuck you up down the wrong way, but that doesn't mean every single drug is only bad for you.
 
SmC, i know plenty of intelligent people who are anti drug. It doesnt bother me, im even a little jealous that they have the will power to stay away.
 
SmC said:
Well i've used lsd and mdma reasonably well and it hasn't exactly done anything bad to me, yes i've bad trips, but have always come out good in the end, and even stronger for it. It depends on which drugs you're talking about here, I tend to stick to lsd/mdma and my interest extends to k, shrooms and weed.(all of which ive tried) Drugs like heroin/speed can fuck you up, but that doens't mean every single drug is only bad for you.

MDMA can be very damaging to you if abused. Hell even if you use it responsibly you will still experience some depression and anxiety for the following few days. Why do you believe "drugs like herion/speed can fuck you up," but think that the drugs you choose (MDMA, k, LSD, Shrooms, weed) are perfectly fine. Wtf? Your being more than a little biased. I'll sum up your post for you: 'the drugs i use are fine, but other drugs are baad'.

I know plenty of people who have had more bad than good from MDMA. I know more than a few people who have become fucked in the head from weed.
 
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