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Opioids I wish to try opium + hash
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4meSM
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Just to clarify, real opium is made by collecting the latex from the papaver somniferum while the plant is still alive, you won't be able to make it from poppys bought in the super market. You will probably have a hard time finding it on the streets too.
Being that said, I don't think you're going to ruin your life just by trying the tea made from the seeds, it's one of the safest way to do it and not super addictive, just like codeine but longer lasting. Don't think you're invincible neither because most opiate addicts started with weak opiates, you have to be aware of that.
A dissociative like Ketamine or Mxe could be better for what you're looking for, as iodo said. They can also be addictive, I'd say they can definitely be more addictive than poppy tea but you won't have a physical dependence to them.
Do more research before you decide, that's the advice i can give you.
Being that said, I don't think you're going to ruin your life just by trying the tea made from the seeds, it's one of the safest way to do it and not super addictive, just like codeine but longer lasting. Don't think you're invincible neither because most opiate addicts started with weak opiates, you have to be aware of that.
A dissociative like Ketamine or Mxe could be better for what you're looking for, as iodo said. They can also be addictive, I'd say they can definitely be more addictive than poppy tea but you won't have a physical dependence to them.
Do more research before you decide, that's the advice i can give you.
Erikmen
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Seriously?!
I would argue that psychedelics don't offer real insight either.
Don't knock it until you try it.... There's also lsdmt, but that's a potent combo. LSD really allows one to let go into dmt. That's a whole other ball park though
sekio
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absolute bullshit
poppy seed tea is very highly variable (poppyseeds not QAd for alkaloid content) making it a major source of dosage fuckups. lots of people have died because they brewed poppyseed tea and consumed what they thought was a "normal" dose for them only to end up taking 10x too much opioid. you have to be insanely careful with PST and be sure to always consume it very slowly, and never rely on any published figures for dosage because you can get sick quite easily.
as for "not addictive", the main alkaloid in PST is morphine among other alkaloids typically seen in opium. saying it is "like a milder version of codeine" is a total understatement. "proper" poppy seed tea is just as addictive as taking laudanum or eating opium on a regular basis. especially if you are consuming it as an intoxicant.
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4meSM
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Ok thank you for posting it, i didn't knew many people OD'd on poppy tea, i thought the amount of morphine present in the seeds you can buy in the super market was relatively slow (as opposed to the ones used by the pharmaceutical industry).
I didn't said it wasn't addictive, of course even codeine is addictive like any other opiate but they're less addictive than other stronger opiates or even smoked opium.
I didn't said it was like a milder version of codeine either so please don't quote that phrase like it was me the one who wrote it.
I said it was like codeine but longer lasting which i believe is true since codeine is metabolized into morphine, yes the main ingredient in poppy seed tea.
If you eat opium or drink poppy seed tea you are consuming oral morphine basically (other alkaloids as well) but the main difference is real opium contains a lot more morphine (some varieties as much as 25% ) so it's a lot easier to overdose. But like i said before i didn't knew that many people took enough seeds to OD or that some comercial seeds had that much morphine.
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