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Mental Health I was wrongly diagnose and forced on invega injection need need help

awesome31311 said:
Treatment in this context means something completely different. We're talking about forced drugging here.
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It’s an interesting question as to whether any “mental health problems” are serious enough to warrant forced treatment - and who get’s to decide what’s what.

Maybe forcibly medicating someone with paranoid schizophrenic delusions is a different category of thing than forcibly medicating someone with a drug habit and bad attitude - although differentiating between the two might be challenging.
 
Atelier3 said:
It’s an interesting question as to whether any “mental health problems” are serious enough to warrant forced treatment - and who get’s to decide what’s what.

Maybe forcibly medicating someone with paranoid schizophrenic delusions is a different category of thing than forcibly medicating someone with a drug habit and bad attitude - although differentiating between the two might be challenging.
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There has to be objectivity. Obviously, there isn't a clear standard with the dsm, that would previously consider homosexuality and anarchism to be mental disorders, before being tossed out.
 
Seriously I would tell them to shove that shot in their ass and take whatever jail time I had to.
You didn't do anything that should make it be too long.
Although I am not a lawyer and am not familiar with the laws where you live so don't blindly take my advice.
This was merely my opinion on the matter.

Also you are talking about suing the wrong people and have entirely the wrong attitude about all this not to mention saying all these off the wall things in a public forum on the internet.
Calm down get off the stimulants and get your head together.
Again just my opinion.
 
AlphaMethylPhenyl said:
I've seen someone taking 400mg of Clozapine (the most intensive antipsychotic) give the most ingenious speeches.

So you know (if it hasn't already been apparent), your odds of succeeding being functional and reaching your goals are terrible if you really are stopping treatment and starting to abuse hard stimulants.
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True, people can function on antipsychotics. I'm interested in knowing what criteria you use to classify Clozapine as the most intensive antipsychotic.
 
They just passed a law overhere since january 1st which basically allows them to do the same, force medications on me, even in my own home, so I don't know anymore about getting psychiatric help myself. Fucking limbo they put me in.

I mean the criteria for getting medications forced on you is ridiculous, it pretty much includes most people that need psychiatric care:
[*] if the patient is deemed a threat to anyone or themselves
[*] if the safety of the patient is being threathened, even when coerced by another
[*] if the behaviour of the patient is so disturbing it leads to aggression in others
[*] if the general safety of others and/or property is in concern

What the actual fuck? :?

It's the fucking world that's gone crazy, not me.
 
So, wait a sec here, you commited a criminal act by assaulting someone, plead insanity (which effectively means: Your Honor, I was so fucked up I could not understand that by assaulting someone I was commiting a crime), and now you're upset that the doctors are treating you as a criminally insane person? What did you expect would happen? Were you aware that insanity is not a "get out of jail free" card?

Honestly, you're working against a stacked deck here. It sounds to me like you've given the judge all the ammunition he'd ever need to keep you doped up on antipsychotics. You committed a violent crime, presumably are known to be a "drug user", and have a combative attitude. That means you're a possible risk to yourself, so therefore you get medicated whether you want it or not. I'm frankly suprised you didn't end up in a psych ward.

I'm not an expert lawyer but I would suspect that if it became known you feigned insanity to avoid a conviction, that's gotta be contempt of court, malingering or something. So I don't think you have much option to reverse the decision.

I hate to be That Guy, but going to jail for a month would have been less hassle overall. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
 
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I wouldn't think that would be legal. I am pretty sure in Canada you can't force someone take medication. That's absolutely horrible. Land of the free eh
 
Isnortice91 said:
I was put on summery probation because I pushed my brother because he was blocking the door on purpose after pushing him he called the cops and I got arrested. I'm on summery probation I did not have the money to do 52 anger management classes and they wanted to sentence me 6 months in jail so the public defender told me that if I don't want to go to jail to plead insanity .A week goes by I show up to my doctors appointment and they make me see a mental health doctor and I talked to the doctor for about 5-10 minutes and the doctor the doctor told me I had psychosis! and had mental health problems and was addicted to weed this all happen when I told the doctor I smoke weed casually. The judge then made me go to the mental health department once a month for treatment, then they gave me therapy sessions counseling. At one session I angry because my therapist the guy who was my therapist was treating me like I was a 5 years old toddler and anything I said , he would just reply “you should try taking a Invega injection it will improve you're life”. He kept pushing these SSRI meds on me !. So one day I got angry and on the way out of the therapy session as I was leaving I said I'm going to my dad's house to smoke more weed. A month goes by and I'm at my next doctor's visit at mental health department and out of no where my doctor says “we are going to give you an Invega injection once a month now”. It was court ordered which means if I don't take the injection I will be violating my probation. So I take the injection in my Arm and now I have no dopamine , if I try smoking weed I can't feel any high like I used to. Eating doesn't feel a good as it used to. Listening to music doesn't feel good as it used to. I now have erectile dysfunction, I now am suddenly shy when it comes to talking to people I used to be extrovert and could talk for hours , but now since this injection I find it no longer interesting to talk to people. I found out online that this injection take away 70% of the brains dopamine and serotonin the chemicals that make you feel good. Can I stop taking the injection once my probation is over?. Thanks for reading my story I hope I'm not the only one going through this.
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You must have done a bit more than push your brother out of a doorway to be threatened with 6 months in jail. No one here is judging you man,we all do shit we regret.

Its pretty heavy stuff to be put on invega injections,it's not something they dish out to everyone. The medical profession is still in the dark ages when it comes to mental illnesses that they don't necessarily know how to treat. There are other ways.

I feel for you and hope your life gets sorted for the better. Taking shit loads of stimulants isn't the answer,please calm down on them or you will be in a psych ward before you know it. Stay safe bro.
 
I am pretty sure in Canada you can't force someone take medication.
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If you're in a hospital here in the land of the leaf and the doctors feel you are a threat to yourself or others they will not hesitate to throw some Haldol at you to shut you up. I've had the "privelege" of recieving a hefty IM shot of haloperidol to dealwith a PCP-induced fugue state - after I regained conciousness in the ICU in restraints I was none too pleased, gave myself rhabdo and shouted myself hoarse trying in vain to escape or plead for sympathy. By the time the haloperidol rendered my movement processing centres inactive I was released from restraints and dumped in isolation. Most of the next few days was a blur. I felt like a stroke victim, I couldn't talk, walk, or do much useful, and needed to be carted around on a wheelchair. They actually gave me a CT because they were worried I might have had a stroke. It's barbaric, sure, but short of drumping people who are freaking out in a straightjacket and padded cell there's not too much else you can do. Especially if you've got a situation like a 300 pound methed-out biker who is threatening to skin the nursing staff alive.
 
sekio said:
If you're in a hospital here in the land of the leaf and the doctors feel you are a threat to yourself or others they will not hesitate to throw some Haldol at you to shut you up. I've had the "privelege" of recieving a hefty IM shot of haloperidol to dealwith a PCP-induced fugue state - after I regained conciousness in the ICU in restraints I was none too pleased, gave myself rhabdo and shouted myself hoarse trying in vain to escape or plead for sympathy. By the time the haloperidol rendered my movement processing centres inactive I was released from restraints and dumped in isolation. Most of the next few days was a blur. I felt like a stroke victim, I couldn't talk, walk, or do much useful, and needed to be carted around on a wheelchair. They actually gave me a CT because they were worried I might have had a stroke. It's barbaric, sure, but short of drumping people who are freaking out in a straightjacket and padded cell there's not too much else you can do. Especially if you've got a situation like a 300 pound methed-out biker who is threatening to skin the nursing staff alive.
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That situation in a hospital but i don't think probation or the courts can force you to take medication against your will. Only thing i have heard is pedophiles being granted parole and taking medical castration but against i don't think it can be forced.
Luckily I have never dealt with courts so i could be wrong.
Just seems so cruel especially with a drug like this.
Quite a few canadians here I'm noticing
 
In relation to op: I would leave the country and never come back if I was somewhere that thought doing that to me was acceptable.
 
sekio said:
So, wait a sec here, you commited a criminal act by assaulting someone, plead insanity (which effectively means: Your Honor, I was so fucked up I could not understand that by assaulting someone I was commiting a crime), and now you're upset that the doctors are treating you as a criminally insane person? What did you expect would happen? Were you aware that insanity is not a "get out of jail free" card?

Honestly, you're working against a stacked deck here. It sounds to me like you've given the judge all the ammunition he'd ever need to keep you doped up on antipsychotics. You committed a violent crime, presumably are known to be a "drug user", and have a combative attitude. That means you're a possible risk to yourself, so therefore you get medicated whether you want it or not. I'm frankly suprised you didn't end up in a psych ward.

I'm not an expert lawyer but I would suspect that if it became known you feigned insanity to avoid a conviction, that's gotta be contempt of court, malingering or something. So I don't think you have much option to reverse the decision.

I hate to be That Guy, but going to jail for a month would have been less hassle overall. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
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What crime?. Shoving my brother in the face after years of abuse from my little brother.
My little brother bullied me for 5 years because he knew if I fight back I'm going to jail. Him calling the cops was his way of saying "haha now you're getting kicked out".
If you seen what was conspiring in my family you would realize everything that has happened to me is based on me not having the money move out my dad's house.
Life is 100% rigged against those who do not have aptitude . At age 17 I tried joining the military so I can move out my dad's house but I could never get through the ASVAB test. What makes me want to stab my self in the stomach is when I was 26 I finally passed the ASVAB test and was going to join the Army National Guard. But then my brother finally found a reason to call the cops on me and now I can't join the military.
If I want to join the military I now have to join the Ukrainian Military because they are the only ones who don't care about criminal past.
If this was 1914 the Army would've accepted me at 17 even if I couldn't do algebra they would've just put me in infantry.
But unfortunately now everyone thinks the military is a privilege not a right , so you have millions of people in my shoes who take 8 years to learn Algebra... And when they finally pass the ASVAB they end up in court problems . It's almost as if America would rather see me fail continuously then just let me become a infantryman. This is what led me to admiring the Axis Powers . I used to be pro America but now I have turned to the dark side and will join the Axis of evil as long as I can one day be infantry officer.
 
Atelier3 said:
If you read all isnortice91's posts over the last month it is very hard to tell whether he is 100 % authentic or 100 % troll. The extreme evangelical enthusiasm for meth no matter what make engaging on HR topics a challenge. The over-the-top sex stuff in most of his posts in the main forums is becoming grating (to me at least and I'm as freaky as the next guy). There are plenty of threads to talk out one's kinks and fetishes.
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I wish I was a troll. If I was a troll I wouldn't be on a invega injections and would be playing counter strike at my dad's house.
Unfortunately my dad doesn't want me living with him anymore. So now I'm stuck in the mental health systems housing + care(means I get low income housing only if I keep showing up to my doctor visits.)
So basically I'm stuck .
Meth is the only thing that makes me not think about my situation I'm in. Pot helps too.
And I have allot of sexual fantasies some I have partaking in real life. Some are just my desires.

The only thing that gives me hope is knowing I still can join the French Foreign Legion or Ukrainian Ground Forces or Bulgarian Land Forces because those 3 militaries don't give a flying fuck if you have a dark past.

Unfortunately my dreams of joining the American Army have been ruined by the mental health system and my criminal record. :(
 
Isnortice91 said:
Ya a week ago I told my doctor this and he said it's not always good to be in a good mood and you should stick to the injection.
Lmao do you see how they are treating me?.
It's like I'm a 5 years old who doesn't know any better.. In a sick weird way now I kind of know why So many teenagers on SSRI pills shoot up schools. It's because no one in the mental health department is not listening to them or taking them serious and we are being treated like toddlers at a day care facility. After a while of this bs it makes me want to punch my doctor in the face and grab him and slam him against the wall and say " listen there's nothing wrong with me , I don't hear voices I don't see things ".
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Dude that’s exactly what they wanted to tell me! Why’s it not ok for me to be in a great mood everyday? That’s bullshit... I use to wake up pumped to start my day now I can’t even force myself to get out of bed after that poison! I guess I use to make people feel uncomfortable the way I would present myself and the confidence I carried.. what a joke they just want us to be sheep like the rest of society.
 
I ask d to get off injections and to join the military. My social worker said no you don’t want to do that
 
I would think that a doctor would have some concerns with someone getting off their antipsychotics and moving to a stressful environment where they may have access to weapons. If there was an underlying psychological problem it could be a very messy scenario.
 
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