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With the exception of RCs and GBL/GHB I have done just about every drug there is. I mean, every one that is popular in this age. I haven't done the older drugs that aren't around much anymore like quaaludes, barbituates, pcp, etc.

But what I want to say is that, in my opinion, with the possible exception of mushrooms, I think that marijuana (when you first experience it) is the best high there is. Marijuana has a reputation for being a mild drug, but I believe that is because tolerance builds relatively quickly and so over time, for many people, it does become rather mild. But now, think back to your first few highs, or your best highs whenever they happened to be. Weren't they just as enjoyable as any other drug?

There is something about the marijuana high that is just so enjoyable. I mean, on my first high, I felt completely weightless, like I was floating. No other drug has done for that for me. There was so much euphoria and everything felt new. I was in heaven. I also tasted and saw music on my first marijuana high. That is something I have never experienced on any other drug, not even when I took 14 hits of LSD.

Now mushrooms are friggin' awesome too, but they are more of deep entheogenic experience than a "high" per se, although they certainly can make you feel high and marijuana certainly can be a deep entheogenic experience.

But if I had to compare my best marijuana high to my best roll, I would pick the marijuana high. If I had to compare my best marijuana high to my best opiate experience, I'd pick the marijuana high. If I had to pick my best marijuana high to my best amphetamine experience, I'd pick the marijuana high. I could be biased, because marijuana was the first drug I really experienced, other than alcohol, so it was just so new, the altered perception and everything and perhaps that is what made it so enjoyable. But I just feel like the marijuana high has an element of humor to it, a certain way of seeing the world, that you just don't get from drugs like MDMA or opiates no matter how euphoric they may be. I have to admit that mushrooms can beat out marijuana, but i do think marijuana can be as enjoyable as mushrooms in some cases.
 
When I first smoked herb I got high but I didn't get any psychedelic effects or synesthesia at all; but this was decades ago and I was smoking what you'd call mids. I remember smoking a few hits of a joint/roach my friend and her friends were smoking at her house after school. I just got mildly high and did my science homework and then went home about an hour or so later. Before that I'd tried smoking a joint I'd made of some mids but at the time I was new to smoking and I didn't know how to inhale correctly so nothing really happened.

I would not say that the first few times when I smoked herb were somehow the best or that they got me so high that I couldn't have better experiences later. When I was new to smoking I didn't get super high and I'd just take 1-3 hits from a joint/roach, pipe, or bong and it was mid-grade Indica, which was very nice but it's not like eating, smoking, or vaporizing a pure Sativa or Sativa dominant strain of herb or hash which gives you psychedelic effects.

I have gotten psychedelic effects and synesthesia from herb, mushrooms, and of course LSD but that came later when I'd eaten herb and when I smoked very high quality herb for the first time before it was around as much as it is now.

My first mushroom trip was a ++++ and life changing in many ways.

I enjoy herb and getting high on it but I just vaporize infrequently now and I enjoy the psychedelic effects vaping gives me, and how I'm getting more THC than when you smoke herb. I haven't tripped on anything in years but if I were going to do it again I'd take mushrooms or maybe a large dose of LSD. I have no interest at all in taking any RCs or any MDXX drugs.

I've never taken MDMA or any MDXX drugs so I have no idea what being high on them is like.

I know people who are major herb smokers who have tried psychedelic drugs and even MDXX drugs and they didn't really like them or had bad experiences while on them.

I know others who love tripping and taking MDXX drugs but herb makes them anxious, gives them horrible panic attacks, and they don't like being high on it at all.

A friend of mine before they got sober used to love all sorts of opiates including dope, various stimulants, benzos, and disassociatve drugs but they had used herb before but didn't like how it made them very paranoid and gave them horrible panic attacks.

PCP is still around. I'm from an area where it's common and I knew a lot of people who used it when I was growing up. I never used it but at one time I thought about it and I figured that if I were with a friend and they wanted to smoke some dust in a bowl or joint I'd take a hit just to see what it was like.

If you like herb and the psychedelic effects of it I'd get a vaporizer and try it out. Or make some moderate/strong edible and eat those when you have a large block of time and aren't going anywhere and don't have to work or travel the next day. I don't really think of one drug as being "better than" or beating out another drug as all drugs have different effects and effect everyone differently.
 
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As much as I hate Marijuana for what it has done/is doing to my brain, it is the most amazing thing I have ever experienced in my life.

It virtually lifted me up out of depression and my life went from:

"I want to commit suicide because I am an 18 year old virgin and the only women who like me are either none of them or the ugly ones"

(After I started using Marijuana >>>>>)

"Haha, what the fuck was I worrying about all along? Fuck women, I am going to smoke a joint of some Sour Diesel tonight and watch Enter the Void while listening to some old school hip hop music"

Marijuana is a drug that cannot be replicated. It is the ONLY drug in the world that made (for me at least) being "bored" out of my mind, an actually fun activity.

Like on some days, I would literally get stoned and look at a wall for two hours and have the time of my life, like a whole world was unraveling in my brain and I was just inside of it having the time of my life.

I love and still love weed. I am a California medicinal marijuana user and I can tell you one thing, we are not the only ones, dispensaries here in California have more people inside of them then huge liquor stores in Hollywood. There are more Cannabis stores here in Los Angeles than Starbucks coffee chains. Look it up, it is a real statistic.

The things I personally use weed for though are for the enhancement of music and to understand the lyrics better, to make the posters in my room look more trippy and interesting, to heighten the bodily senses (make food taste better, "getting off" feel better.)

However, as I have said many times, it has been one of the most harmful drugs to me. It derealized me for six months and currently I am suffering borderline panic like anxiety from using it only 1-2 times a week. Crazy huh? It also has fried my memory and made me extremely spacey.

I would give all of this up however (the memory, the spaciness, the laziness) I would still keep smoking it with all these symptoms but it was when I hit the point of anxiety and panic where I really started considering stopping it. Like those are two symptoms where they really scared me and are probably going ot make me quit in the next few weeks. Man, I'm gonna miss it. Stoned entertainment defies anything in the world, watching TV and listening to music sober on the weekends is gonna suck....
 
Weed is my favourite drug, because it calms me down and calms my mind down. I love that feeling.
 
First time I smoked weed, very small amount, didn't smoke it properly.

Second time, joint of Jack Herer with about a gram and a half between me and one other person.
No acid trip, mushroom trip, perhaps not even DMT compare to that experience. It was much like an awesome psychedelic trip, but different and unique in it's own way. It was a one of a kind drug experience and I doubt I will ever have a similar experience regardless of what I take.
 
I can relate to that man. You know, Ive had so many spiritual revelations from meditating on cannabis, that when I first took lsd/shrooms I was really disppoiinted. I mean, people told me that acid and shrooms would reveal so much to me and that they were so much stronger than weed but i just did not find that to be the case. I mean, I agree they are much more visual than weed and the dose reponse curve is much different, as in there is a limit with weed whereas you can go really really really far out there with the mushroom. but in terms of what you learn from the experience, and take back with you into day to day life, i honestly didnt find LSD to much different from weed. It was the exact same insights. I can't really say i learned much from LSD that I didnt already know from my weed experiences. And to think some people claim weed isnt a psychedelic heh heh heh.

I must admit that mushrooms/DMT have taken me to realms that i never accessed on cannabis. But I didn't really learn much that I was able to take back. I mean, you feel like you have all this cosmic wisdom during your trip and then you come down and a week later you can't remember it. The one thing I feel like I did learn from mushrooms that cannabis did not show me, was the absolute perfection, depth and wisdom of God.
 
Id disagree by itself, but combined with other drugs is where it shines.
 
I totally agree with OP. The first time I smoked I was doing it wrong and didn't get high...but the second, was a magical fucking experience. I remember how hungry I was, how happy I was, and how awesome everything just was. That was the first drug I'd ever tried though, so that may also be the reason. By the way, PCP is still around if you know where to find it. A friend of mine is a dusthead.
 
Just love weed & hash started at age 17.

Had a few breaks.

Now nearly 60 - still love it, maybe even more.
 
PCP is still around. I'm from an area where it's common and I knew a lot of people who used it when I was growing up. I never used it but at one time I thought about it and I figured that if I were with a friend and they wanted to smoke some dust in a bowl or joint I'd take a hit just to see what it was like.
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Oh I know it's still around but it isn't common like it was once was. I have never come across it. I'm not huge fan of ketamine or DXM, so I haven't bothered to look particularly hard.
 
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Toked for my 1st time in 1969 & have been a daily toker since. Over the 43 yrs of smoking weed, I've become LESS tolerant & now can get blasted with 3-4 bonghits. I always thought that I'd need WAY more after all these years, but actually need less to get stoned.
I'd toke that Colombian Red Bud all day & evening back in the 70s & 80s...but what my grower pals send me nowadays is amazing!! It doesn't take much for maximum altitude & I love that!!
 
Captain.Heroin said:
I would tend to agree except...

IV MDA , LSD , DMT, as well as mushrooms are all like this.
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Haven't done MDA but I disagree with LSD being like weed in terms of enjoyability. Now I have had some truly wonderful experiences with LSD. But, it really did not take me long to tire of it. The problem with LSD is that the coming down period lasts too long, and it is not at all enjoyable for me. WHen I take LSD, the first hour after it kicks in, in generally euphoric, then the next few hours the euphoria goes away, although it is still quite enjoyable because of how incredible music sounds and the beautiful thoughts and visuals. But once that starts to die down, you're left with like 12 hours of being unable to sleep, restless, unpleasant taste in your mouth and difficulty making your mind work how you want it to. I will never take LSD again, due to that coming down period. The other reason LSD is not like weed is because, with weed, you can get high one day and the get just as high the next day. You can even get high once a day for a week and that is not even that heavy use. If you tried taking LSD every day for a week, forget about it.

Mushrooms and DMT I will agree, are just as enjoyable as weed.
 
I guess the point of my original post was this. WHen I first smoked weed, and I told everyone how much I loved it, some people said "lol, you think weed is euphoric? Try MDMA. THAT is euphoria." But when I actually tried MDMA, I found that I actually liked weed more.
 
I agree with the OP. The best high of my life was from marijuana. It was probably the 5th or 6th time I'd smoked pot, I'd been lifted off it before, but nothing like what happened that night. I remember laying down on my aunt's guest bed and not really knowing/caring where I was. I was entirely inside myself wrapped up in the sensation of electricity slowly pulsing up and down my body, top of the head to the tip of the toes and back, over and over. The sensation didn't seem to fade and I'm not sure how long it lasted; I woke up sober in the morning and I've been chasing that high ever since. Marijuana never gave it back to me. Even when I get the best top shelf from the CA dispensaries and top my bowls with earwax, I still can't get that high back.

I've tried mushrooms, dmt, dxm, mdma, mda, mdwhoevenknows, cocaine, meth, heroin, and every rx benzo and opiate I could get my hands on. None of those drugs in any combination have come close to giving me the physical sensation of that one high.

Maybe the closest I've come is mdma + oxycodone, or heroin + cocaine + marijuana. My favorite recipe is 2 parts opiate for 1 part upper.

Anyways, I'd give up a lifetime supply of opiates, my DOC, if I could continue getting that high from marijuana. But I can't. We're all chasin the dragon we'll never catch again.
 
Not really agree with the OP.

My first MDMA experience was a plus four, absolute bliss. Much better than all of the weed highs over the past 2 years added up together.
But I have to admit. My first highs from super-strong skunk were mindblowing to say the least, psychedelic, entheogenic, life-changing - I became an atheist after some heavy shit occured to me when I was blazed out of my mind.

Now, I got to the point I'm not really getting high anymore. Just some weird "If I didn't know what I was looking for I wouldn't notice any effects from the weed"-kind of feeling.

I think I need to take a tolerance break. How many weeks should I quit to get high like the first times?
 
I think I need to take a tolerance break. How many weeks should I quit to get high like the first times?
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well to really reset your tolerance, a few weeks probably won't do it. the longest break i did was a month and while it was very nice to get a proper high, it wasn't at all like in the beginning. i think such a goal would need at least a year of staying away from cannabis. :/
 
Bagseed said:
well to really reset your tolerance, a few weeks probably won't do it. the longest break i did was a month and while it was very nice to get a proper high, it wasn't at all like in the beginning. i think such a goal would need at least a year of staying away from cannabis. :/
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you'll never get high again like that first time. it was about the experience more then the drug itself. just like doing any new drug for the first time. The first few times will always be memorable / intense because it is a new experience for you.
 
BluLait said:
Not really agree with the OP.

My first MDMA experience was a plus four, absolute bliss. Much better than all of the weed highs over the past 2 years added up together.
But I have to admit. My first highs from super-strong skunk were mindblowing to say the least, psychedelic, entheogenic, life-changing - I became an atheist after some heavy shit occured to me when I was blazed out of my mind.

Now, I got to the point I'm not really getting high anymore. Just some weird "If I didn't know what I was looking for I wouldn't notice any effects from the weed"-kind of feeling.

I think I need to take a tolerance break. How many weeks should I quit to get high like the first times?
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Haha that is funny. I was an atheist and I became spiritual after being introduced to weed and merging into pure awareness. My beliefs are new mostly Hindu with some Christianity mixed in.
 
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