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I want to give my parents MDMA (seriously)

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DJGiZmO said:
IMO, Bad idea for 2 reasons.

A) It sounds like you have a decent relationship with your parents. Don't ruin it now.

B) Your mother is on anti-depressions prescribed by a doctor. You have no idea how that will interact will a roll, even if its pure mdma.
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I don't see how this would ruin my relationship with my parents. I only see this as making it stronger. She isn't on anti-depressants, she is on anti-anxiety meds, and she isn't depressed to the point that she needs the meds. She just uses them to help her out...she isn't dependent on them.

I think if she decides to be open-minded about this then she could benefit tremendously.
 
i want to give it to my parents as well, but unfortunately my mom has heart problems and thyroid disorder so it probably is a terrible idea.

i mean well though, truly <3
 
This particular thing may be a much bigger risk than you actually realize though. So although your statement rings true to most things, in this case you need to really know what you are getting yourself in to before taking a risk.
 
I'm so happy you took the step- but to echo what others have said, before she rolls, she needs to (or you should for her) research how MDMA would affect with her particular regime of antidepressants. An anti-depressant is not something you just pop on a low day, it's typically something you have a set regime with. They typically aren't the sort of drugs that work immediately, so there is typically a routine you follow. I could certainly be wrong, but that's my understanding.
 
She's on anti-anxiety meds, I think Prozac, not anti-depressants....if there's even a difference.

I talked to her about it already. I asked if she thought she was capable of coming off the meds for a little bit, and she said it wouldn't be a problem. She's not a chronically depressed person, she was just having a little anxiety here and there and decided to get meds though.

She admittedly doesn't like them that much though, considering that even though she's never depressed anymore, she's also never happy. She's just kinda neutral. I personally don't think there would be too much of a problem with her coming off of the meds for a little bit, but then again only she truly knows the extent of her anxiety...I can only speculate.

Honestly my only fear is that she tries MDMA and has such a profound experience with it that when she comes back to reality sober life just won't be as fun anymore. I fear that while she may have an amazing experience, the lack of MDMA afterwards coupled with her boring, mundane life may accelerate her anxiety/depression.

But it's a small risk in my eyes, compared to the potential reward that I see it benefiting her.
 
I would not worry too much- I thought my dad would be overwhelmed with joy after trying MDMA, but he thought it was simply an entertaining experience. Most people are less impressed with things as they age- but that's a general statement, and if your mom has not experienced extreme joy from a drug, it may be an amazing experience she wants to repeat and repeat.

I've always said what I love about MDMA the most is not so much rolling, but the clarity and state of mind it brings to my sober world. I haven't rolled in 4 months, but I feel permanently aware of what matters most, and what to let slide. I don't let angry, or unfriendly people bother me as much. I see more beauty in simple things, but not to a blinding unrealistic extent. If she is willing to do it, make sure the environment is right (home) and she has lots of music to listen to that she enjoys, and prepare yourself to have her talk to you about a lot of stuff she's been going through. She may also want to be alone- you never know.
 
Haven't read replies, but if you really want to convince them read some articles and present them evidence it can fix their problems. I know you can find stuff, I looked just to make sure. Within reading part of one article I was able to find something related to your situation with your parents. Although evidence doesn't always sway the religious aha
 
knighton said:
Your mother has enough problems. Why are you trying to introduce an addictive substance into the equation? What if the E use leads to more serious substance abuse? E is not going to solve your mother's/father's problems. When does the use stop? Are they going to use the drug forever? Addiction is very serious. You never know what using E may lead to for them. I happen to agree with your father's outlook. I would rather be blahh sober than happy high. It's artificial.

...And to answer your question, yes it is crazy.
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its pretty easy to get psychologically addicted to it when your depressed
 
MDMA isn't for depressed people. It's for people who're kind of "lost" or "looking for something" or better yet... people who can't accept who they are as a person and are dealing with anxiety due to their own emotional barriers they've put on themselves. There's a reason MDMA is being used for PTSD, because it's great for anxiety disorders but I would stay away from MDMA and mood disorders. That is because I'd hypothesize that it would be good in the short run but bad in the long run.
 
Zeknichov said:
MDMA isn't for depressed people. It's for people who're kind of "lost" or "looking for something" or better yet... people who can't accept who they are as a person and are dealing with anxiety due to their own emotional barriers they've put on themselves. There's a reason MDMA is being used for PTSD, because it's great for anxiety disorders but I would stay away from MDMA and mood disorders. That is because I'd hypothesize that it would be good in the short run but bad in the long run.
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That describes my mom exactly. She feels like she doesn't know what to do with herself...she's already raised all but one of her children, she's in a marriage where she doesn't even have feelings for her husband, and she doesn't feel like she has anything left to give. She's a stay-at-home mom and doesn't really have many friends. I feel like MDMA can help her gain a fresh new perspective on life and show her there is much worth living for and being happy for.

I'm pretty confident this will be a good thing for her. And if she really likes it that much, I can get her some every few months or so. That way she'll have something to look forward to.
 
EpicurusFire said:
She's on anti-anxiety meds, I think Prozac, not anti-depressants....if there's even a difference.

I talked to her about it already. I asked if she thought she was capable of coming off the meds for a little bit, and she said it wouldn't be a problem. She's not a chronically depressed person, she was just having a little anxiety here and there and decided to get meds though.

She admittedly doesn't like them that much though, considering that even though she's never depressed anymore, she's also never happy. She's just kinda neutral. I personally don't think there would be too much of a problem with her coming off of the meds for a little bit, but then again only she truly knows the extent of her anxiety...I can only speculate.

Honestly my only fear is that she tries MDMA and has such a profound experience with it that when she comes back to reality sober life just won't be as fun anymore. I fear that while she may have an amazing experience, the lack of MDMA afterwards coupled with her boring, mundane life may accelerate her anxiety/depression.

But it's a small risk in my eyes, compared to the potential reward that I see it benefiting her.
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Antidepressants that caused an actual improvement in mood (ie euphoria) would be scheduled. Euphoria and happiness is a side effect (as far as medicine is defined). Having been on most SSRIs, I can say that, personally, all they ever did was induce a state of apathetic emotionlessness.

If she feels she has decent control of her anxiety / depression after being off them for awhile, only then would I consider giving her MDxx.
 
MazDan said:
Any persons making stupid suggestions in this thread WILL have there posts removed in there entirety.
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So thats why you have 15k posts, you Modtastic tripple poster! =D


Just kidding.


On topic, this is clearly a bad idea. Im sure the first thing many of us thought of when we first rolled was "Omg i need to give this to ...."

But it doesn't always work like that. Especially in the case of a depressed person. Could it possibly cure someones depression and give a new outlook on life? Yes. But it is just as likely to make the depression twice as bad.
 
So she responded.

"Michael,
Firstly, I'm wondering, you said you're very discerning about what you put in your body. Had you research ecstacy before taking it, or did you trust a stranger to tell you it wouldn't harm you at bonnaroo? I had trusted someone I had known from back home in college and He slipped drugs in my drink that made me woozy and not in control. I was very scared, as you can imagine. I had only been at college a couple of weeks. He got found out when I tried leaving the dorm and kept falling down, telling people he put something in my coke drink. I, therefore, surmise you tried this at bonnaroo without fully knowing what it would do to you. My concern about this MDMA is that it has not been given enough time to understand the effects of it longterm, though they say it is safer than aspiri in lower dosages, like most drugs out there being used on the market. whew! I'n my mind I think "bad drug" because of all you hear in the news, but now they are even snorting nutmeg! Goodness! Another concern I have is that you felt you needed to take this-why? Were you unhappy at the time? I know my problems are alot of what my mom has experienced over the years, and it has helped to know somewhat that this is hereditary. My circumstances are not giving me these feelings. That I know. Hopefully, when I'm done with menopause I'll be done with these mood swings and such.
Finally, I want to thank you for wanting to help me. I have felt sorry for you, my family, for having to deal with this. I notice a mellowing out overthe years, which is a blessing. I pray none of you get it,too, but if you do that you trust God to give you wise discernment about what to do and how to think, and who to trust. I'll be praying about this and what I should do. love you, Mom"

I think i'm gonna be rolling with my mom guys, LOL
 
How long does she need to wait after coming off Prozac before she can roll?

At the time I want to have her take it, she will have been off of it for about 3 weeks. Now she has only been on it for a couple months, if that changes anything. I really hope she can have a full roll after 3 weeks of being off, because I'm anxious to have her experience this and I won't be home for a long time after.
 
I dont think your idea is a bad one at all. As long as they are both in good physical health...it could be good. Probably will take a whole lot of convincing though.
 
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