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I've been a regular cannabis user for years, smoking/vaping dry herb up until about two years ago, when for convenience (no smell, easy to carry around) I switched to vaping (cannabis oil carts, THC vape pens). More recently, about 8-9 months ago I started ordering cannabis oil extract off the dark web as it was cheaper and since I thought that that what was going into the vape pens anyway. I was using daily and throughout the day. The dose/concentration in retrospect is unclear, but I was vaping around 1-2ml a day or more.
After a few weeks (a lot of it is more in retrospect, but some of the symptoms I felt and ignored at the time) I started noticing the stuff was giving me headaches (manageable) and a degradation in my ability to stay asleep for long periods of time like cannabis afforded me to. Also instead of increased appetite I developed a proper eating disorder where I severely limited my diet and literally sometime couldn't deal with the sensation of putting something in my mouth and chewing it etc so I had to spit it out. To counter the sleeping issues I supplemented my regime with some Zolpidem.
I started developing social anxiety - I had to disconnect from friends and family. Couldn't even answer the phone or say hi to neighbours. Cognitive skills were also on the decline and a brain fog developed. Since I'm a drug addict, I decided to add Modafinil SR 200mg per day to the mix to deal with the brain fog and the creeping lack of motivation. I did help countering it, but that led to debilitating insomnia.
Things got to a state where my mood was so low, no sleep, not eating very well etc, that even in my brain fog I realised that something's not right (doh, finally). I learned about wedinos.com a service that accepts drug samples and tests them for you for free (you pay for the shipping). I sent two samples of oils I got from two different vendors. It took only a couple of days and the results confirmed it indeed was not cannabis oil but MDMB-4en-PINCA aka Spice (or a variant of Spice).
At this point I was really not getting anything positive out of the drug so I decided to wean off it gradually but not too slowly. Over the course of two weeks I was vaping less and less until I completely stopped. That's when the withdrawals started (this was exactly four weeks ago).
Week 1 was the toughest physically - diarrhoea and vomiting, severe sweating (from the palm of my hands, something I've not experienced before). I was using 10mg Zolpidem to get some sleep, but I wasn't getting much. Feelings of dread and suicidal ideation were constant, and I experienced one psychotic episode where I ended up harming myself (I've not had one of those before. It was horrible).
Week 2 I decided to start weaning off the Zolpidem as it was not actually helping at all. Over the course of the week I gradually reduced from 10mg to 2.5mg and then stopped. The feelings of helplessness and dread continued but came and went in waves. My gut was very clearly messed up, I couldnt pass stool at all. I tested my urine (pee on a stick) and apart from mild dehydration there was nothing out of the ordinary. Sleep was terrible; I didn't follow a schedule and was getting no more than an 1-2 hours of sleep per night even that was broken and interrupted.
Note about craving - I was (am) lucky that the stuff really put me off weed/noids (fake weed) so I had no cravings for it at all. I did however have cravings of escaping my situation by any other means necessary. I gladly kept those at bay and rode the waves.
Week 3 the gaps between the troughs was getting wider. I even started getting waves of optimism, feeling that things will work out in the end. I started passing stool again but only a tiny bit at a time. I started working on my sleep hygiene. Getting sun in the morning and trying to bed before midnight. Taking supplements like magnesium etc (though ultimately I didn't feel I was getting much benefit from it so I stopped). Sleep was still very poor and I was lucky to get 2-3 hours per night, though it was improving every night and becoming less interrupted.
Week 4 - this is where I am now. Tomorrow week 5 starts. I've been totally clean of any illicit drugs or otherwise since stopping the Zolpidem two weeks ago. Sleep is much better, past 2-3 days I was getting up to six hours of uninterrupted sleep. Falling asleep also became a non-issue. Stool is still a work in progress, but it's improving every day.
Overall now, my diet, sleep and cognitive functions are maybe at 70% but I'm seeing improvement every day and I'm confident it will go up to 100% within a few weeks. I think I was both lucky and unfortunate to discover what I was using was not actually weed. I've suffered many withdrawals before from other substances, some a lot more acute but perhaps not as prolonged and certainly not what you'd expect if you were thinking you were using cannabis oil.
I hope this helps someone steer clear of what I went through, or encourages you to quit if you’re already caught up in it and I'd be happy to answer any questions if it helps someone avoid this.
After a few weeks (a lot of it is more in retrospect, but some of the symptoms I felt and ignored at the time) I started noticing the stuff was giving me headaches (manageable) and a degradation in my ability to stay asleep for long periods of time like cannabis afforded me to. Also instead of increased appetite I developed a proper eating disorder where I severely limited my diet and literally sometime couldn't deal with the sensation of putting something in my mouth and chewing it etc so I had to spit it out. To counter the sleeping issues I supplemented my regime with some Zolpidem.
I started developing social anxiety - I had to disconnect from friends and family. Couldn't even answer the phone or say hi to neighbours. Cognitive skills were also on the decline and a brain fog developed. Since I'm a drug addict, I decided to add Modafinil SR 200mg per day to the mix to deal with the brain fog and the creeping lack of motivation. I did help countering it, but that led to debilitating insomnia.
Things got to a state where my mood was so low, no sleep, not eating very well etc, that even in my brain fog I realised that something's not right (doh, finally). I learned about wedinos.com a service that accepts drug samples and tests them for you for free (you pay for the shipping). I sent two samples of oils I got from two different vendors. It took only a couple of days and the results confirmed it indeed was not cannabis oil but MDMB-4en-PINCA aka Spice (or a variant of Spice).
At this point I was really not getting anything positive out of the drug so I decided to wean off it gradually but not too slowly. Over the course of two weeks I was vaping less and less until I completely stopped. That's when the withdrawals started (this was exactly four weeks ago).
Week 1 was the toughest physically - diarrhoea and vomiting, severe sweating (from the palm of my hands, something I've not experienced before). I was using 10mg Zolpidem to get some sleep, but I wasn't getting much. Feelings of dread and suicidal ideation were constant, and I experienced one psychotic episode where I ended up harming myself (I've not had one of those before. It was horrible).
Week 2 I decided to start weaning off the Zolpidem as it was not actually helping at all. Over the course of the week I gradually reduced from 10mg to 2.5mg and then stopped. The feelings of helplessness and dread continued but came and went in waves. My gut was very clearly messed up, I couldnt pass stool at all. I tested my urine (pee on a stick) and apart from mild dehydration there was nothing out of the ordinary. Sleep was terrible; I didn't follow a schedule and was getting no more than an 1-2 hours of sleep per night even that was broken and interrupted.
Note about craving - I was (am) lucky that the stuff really put me off weed/noids (fake weed) so I had no cravings for it at all. I did however have cravings of escaping my situation by any other means necessary. I gladly kept those at bay and rode the waves.
Week 3 the gaps between the troughs was getting wider. I even started getting waves of optimism, feeling that things will work out in the end. I started passing stool again but only a tiny bit at a time. I started working on my sleep hygiene. Getting sun in the morning and trying to bed before midnight. Taking supplements like magnesium etc (though ultimately I didn't feel I was getting much benefit from it so I stopped). Sleep was still very poor and I was lucky to get 2-3 hours per night, though it was improving every night and becoming less interrupted.
Week 4 - this is where I am now. Tomorrow week 5 starts. I've been totally clean of any illicit drugs or otherwise since stopping the Zolpidem two weeks ago. Sleep is much better, past 2-3 days I was getting up to six hours of uninterrupted sleep. Falling asleep also became a non-issue. Stool is still a work in progress, but it's improving every day.
Overall now, my diet, sleep and cognitive functions are maybe at 70% but I'm seeing improvement every day and I'm confident it will go up to 100% within a few weeks. I think I was both lucky and unfortunate to discover what I was using was not actually weed. I've suffered many withdrawals before from other substances, some a lot more acute but perhaps not as prolonged and certainly not what you'd expect if you were thinking you were using cannabis oil.
I hope this helps someone steer clear of what I went through, or encourages you to quit if you’re already caught up in it and I'd be happy to answer any questions if it helps someone avoid this.
